Biblical Eternal Security vs 'Calvinistic Eternal Security' -by Gregg Jackson
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Casting away our faith does mean losing salvation. Apostacy happens.
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
We do not receive our incorruptible crowns until we get to Heaven.
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
We do not receive our incorruptible crowns until we get to Heaven.
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Excellent! I think MUCH MORE Focus About God's Salvation Should Be On "What
HE HAS DONE {Because of HIS ALL-Sufficient BLOOD} For us," who WERE NEVER
worthy, but who believe, and, let's see "in a nanosecond," What That entails
{below...}, instead of the misguided focus Of:
me, myself, and I "struggling, But NEVER maintaining it." What think ye?:
Clear Scriptures? Yes, there Certainly is! Are you ready?:
too long, see Next Two Posts:
HE HAS DONE {Because of HIS ALL-Sufficient BLOOD} For us," who WERE NEVER
worthy, but who believe, and, let's see "in a nanosecond," What That entails
{below...}, instead of the misguided focus Of:
me, myself, and I "struggling, But NEVER maintaining it." What think ye?:
Clear Scriptures? Yes, there Certainly is! Are you ready?:
too long, see Next Two Posts:
Precious friend(s). All Praise, Honor, And Glory To The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
The Wonderful Saviour, And HIS Finished Work On The Deadly CROSS,
(1 John 2 : 2, 4 : 10 KJB), In Love for All mankind! Amen?
For He Hath Made Him sin For us, Who Knew no sin; that we might be
Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!” (2 Corinthians 5 : 21 KJB!)
Part I God’s OPERATION On ALL of HIS Chosen!:
(1) Accepted In The Beloved, To The Praise Of
(2) Adopted (Romans 8 : 15; Galatians 4 : 5; Ephesians 1 : 5 KJB!)
(3) Baptized:
(4) Blessed With All Spiritual Blessings In Heavenly Places In CHRIST!
(5) Circumcised With The Circumcision Of CHRIST! (Colossians 2 : 11 KJB!)
(6) Delivered:
(7) FORGIVEN of ALL sins and trespasses,
(8) Given:
(9) Glorified!
Thanks Be To God For "The Merits Of The PRECIOUS BLOOD"
Of HIS Only Begotten SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST! Amen?
(10) Justified:
(11) Made:
The Wonderful Saviour, And HIS Finished Work On The Deadly CROSS,
(1 John 2 : 2, 4 : 10 KJB), In Love for All mankind! Amen?
For He Hath Made Him sin For us, Who Knew no sin; that we might be
Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!” (2 Corinthians 5 : 21 KJB!)
Part I God’s OPERATION On ALL of HIS Chosen!:
(1) Accepted In The Beloved, To The Praise Of
The Glory Of HIS GRACE! (Ephesians 1 : 6 KJB!)
(2) Adopted (Romans 8 : 15; Galatians 4 : 5; Ephesians 1 : 5 KJB!)
(3) Baptized:
“BY” ONE Holy Spirit!
(Ephesians 4 : 3-6; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!):
Into HIS Death, And Buried With HIM!
(Romans 6 : 3 Colossians 2 : 12 KJB!)
Into HIS ONE Body!! (1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!)
Into JESUS CHRIST!!! (Romans 6 : 3; Galatians 3 : 27 KJB!)
(Ephesians 4 : 3-6; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!):
Into HIS Death, And Buried With HIM!
(Romans 6 : 3 Colossians 2 : 12 KJB!)
Into HIS ONE Body!! (1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!)
Into JESUS CHRIST!!! (Romans 6 : 3; Galatians 3 : 27 KJB!)
(4) Blessed With All Spiritual Blessings In Heavenly Places In CHRIST!
(Ephesians 1 : 3 KJB!)
(5) Circumcised With The Circumcision Of CHRIST! (Colossians 2 : 11 KJB!)
(6) Delivered:
From the power of darkness! (Colossians 1 : 13 KJB!)
From so great a death!! (2 Corinthians 1 : 10 KJB!)
From the wrath to come!!! (Romans 5 : 9; 1 Thessalonians 1 : 10 KJB!)
From so great a death!! (2 Corinthians 1 : 10 KJB!)
From the wrath to come!!! (Romans 5 : 9; 1 Thessalonians 1 : 10 KJB!)
(7) FORGIVEN of ALL sins and trespasses,
According To The Riches Of HIS GRACE!
(Romans 4 : 7; Ephesians 1 : 7, 4 : 32; Colossians 1 : 14, 2 : 13 KJB!)
(Romans 4 : 7; Ephesians 1 : 7, 4 : 32; Colossians 1 : 14, 2 : 13 KJB!)
(8) Given:
The Earnest of The Spirit in our hearts! (2 Corinthians 1 : 22, 5 : 5 KJB!)
Everlasting Consolation and Good Hope Through GRACE!
(2 Thessalonians 2 : 16 KJB!)
GRACE, Which was Given us In CHRIST JESUS Before the world began!
(2 Timothy 1 : 9 KJB!)
GRACE according to The Measure Of The Gift Of CHRIST!
(Ephesians 4 : 7 KJB!)
PEACE Through our LORD JESUS CHRIST! (Romans 5 : 1; Philippians 4 : 7 KJB!)
The Promise By Faith Of JESUS CHRIST! (Galatians 3 : 22 KJB!)
The spirit of power, love, And a sound mind! (2 Timothy 1 : 7 KJB!)
Everlasting Consolation and Good Hope Through GRACE!
(2 Thessalonians 2 : 16 KJB!)
GRACE, Which was Given us In CHRIST JESUS Before the world began!
(2 Timothy 1 : 9 KJB!)
GRACE according to The Measure Of The Gift Of CHRIST!
(Ephesians 4 : 7 KJB!)
PEACE Through our LORD JESUS CHRIST! (Romans 5 : 1; Philippians 4 : 7 KJB!)
The Promise By Faith Of JESUS CHRIST! (Galatians 3 : 22 KJB!)
The spirit of power, love, And a sound mind! (2 Timothy 1 : 7 KJB!)
(9) Glorified!
(Romans 8 : 30 cp 2 Corinthians 4 : 17; 2 Thessalonians 2 : 14 KJB!):
"When CHRIST, Who Is our Life, Shall Appear, Then Shall
ye Also appear With HIM In Glory!" (Colossians 3 : 4 KJB!)
"When CHRIST, Who Is our Life, Shall Appear, Then Shall
ye Also appear With HIM In Glory!" (Colossians 3 : 4 KJB!)
Of HIS Only Begotten SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST! Amen?
(10) Justified:
Freely By HIS GRACE (Romans 3 : 24; Titus 3 : 7 KJB!)
CHRIST, Who Was Delivered For our offences,
By HIS Blood! (Romans 5 : 9 KJB!)
In The Name Of The LORD JESUS, And By
CHRIST, Who Was Delivered For our offences,
Was Raised For our justification! (Romans 4 : 25 KJB!)
By faith (Romans 5 : 1 KJB!)By HIS Blood! (Romans 5 : 9 KJB!)
In The Name Of The LORD JESUS, And By
The Spirit Of our God! (1 Corinthians 6 : 11 KJB!)
(11) Made:
Accepted In The Beloved (Ephesians 1 : 6 KJB!)
alive, Together With CHRIST!
(Ephesians 2 : 1, 5; 1 Corinthians 15 : 22 KJB!)
children Of God
(Romans 8 : 14-16; Galatians 3 : 26; Ephesians 1 : 5 KJB!)
Complete In HIM (Colossians 2 : 10 KJB!)
to drink into One Spirit (1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!)
Free From the law of sin and death (Romans 8 : 2 KJB!)
Free In The Liberty Of CHRIST! (Galatians 5 : 1 KJB!)
heirs With God / Joint heirs With CHRIST!
(Titus 3 : 7; Romans 8 : 17 KJB!)
nigh by The BLOOD Of CHRIST! (Ephesians 2 : 13 KJB!)
righteous By The Obedience Of ONE {CHRIST!}
(Romans 5 : 19 KJB!)
The Righteousness Of God In HIM! (2 Corinthians 5 : 21 KJB!)
to sit together In Heavenly Places In CHRIST JESUS!
(Ephesians 2 : 6 KJB!)
[worthy] meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the
alive, Together With CHRIST!
(Ephesians 2 : 1, 5; 1 Corinthians 15 : 22 KJB!)
children Of God
(Romans 8 : 14-16; Galatians 3 : 26; Ephesians 1 : 5 KJB!)
Complete In HIM (Colossians 2 : 10 KJB!)
to drink into One Spirit (1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!)
Free From the law of sin and death (Romans 8 : 2 KJB!)
Free In The Liberty Of CHRIST! (Galatians 5 : 1 KJB!)
heirs With God / Joint heirs With CHRIST!
(Titus 3 : 7; Romans 8 : 17 KJB!)
nigh by The BLOOD Of CHRIST! (Ephesians 2 : 13 KJB!)
righteous By The Obedience Of ONE {CHRIST!}
(Romans 5 : 19 KJB!)
The Righteousness Of God In HIM! (2 Corinthians 5 : 21 KJB!)
to sit together In Heavenly Places In CHRIST JESUS!
(Ephesians 2 : 6 KJB!)
[worthy] meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the
saints in Light! (Colossians 1 : 12 KJB!)
to be continued...
Part II: God’s OPERATION On ALL of HIS Chosen!
The Wonderful Eternal Merits Of The Saviour's Precious BLOOD, continued:
(12) Purchased:
(13) Raised:
(14) Redeemed:
(15) Saved:
(16) Sealed:
(17) Translated:
(18) Washed:
Precious friend(s), In Conclusion:
“For we preach not ourselves, but CHRIST JESUS The LORD; and ourselves
your servants for JESUS’ Sake. For God, Who Commanded the light to shine
out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of
The Glory Of God In The Face Of JESUS CHRIST. But we have This Treasure in
earthen vessels, that The Excellency Of The Power may be Of God, and not of us.”
(2 Corinthians 4 : 5-7 KJB!)
ALL Because of CHRIST's FULL Sacrifice! Amen?
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In addition to These {6 Dozen +} Passages, God Also Has
More Scriptural Evidence Of HIS Glorious Eternal Salvation:
58 Solid Biblical Facts!
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
God's Simple Will!
The Wonderful Eternal Merits Of The Saviour's Precious BLOOD, continued:
(12) Purchased:
God Purchased HIS Church With HIS OWN BLOOD!
(Acts 20 : 28 KJB!)
“...Redemption Of The Purchased Possession, Unto
The Praise Of HIS Glory!” (Ephesians 1 : 14 KJB!)
(13) Raised:
“Buried With HIM In Baptism, Wherein Also ye Are RISEN With HIM
Through The Faith Of The OPERATION Of God, Who Hath RAISED
HIM From the dead.” (Colossians 2 : 12 KJB!)
Up Together With CHRIST! (Ephesians 2 : 6 KJB!)
(14) Redeemed:
“...The Great God and our Saviour JESUS CHRIST; Who Gave
HIMSELF For us, That HE might Redeem us From ALL iniquity…”
(Titus 2 : 14 KJB!)
From the curse of the law! (Galatians 3 : 13 KJB!)
Redemption IN CHRIST JESUS! (Romans 3 : 24 KJB!)
Redemption Through HIS BLOOD!
(Ephesians 1 : 7; Colossians 1 : 14 KJB!)
God Made CHRIST Redemption Unto us who are IN HIM!
(1 Corinthians 1 : 30 KJB!)
“...Redemption Of The Purchased Possession, Unto
The Praise Of HIS Glory!” (Ephesians 1 : 14 KJB!)
Sealed By The Holy Spirit Unto The Day Of Redemption!
(Ephesians 4 : 30 KJB!)
The {Day Of} Redemption of our body! (Romans 8 : 23 KJB!)
(15) Saved:
“For The GRACE Of God That Bringeth Salvation
Hath Appeared To all men” (Titus 2 : 11 KJB!)
But, FOR Only those, who are humble:
The Gospel Of CHRIST Is The Power Of God Unto Salvation
“For The preaching Of The CROSS is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which Are SAVED It Is The Power Of God!”
(1 Corinthians 1 : 18 KJB!)
“By GRACE are ye Saved Through faith”
(Ephesians 2 : 5, 8-9 KJB!)
“...According To HIS Own Purpose And GRACE, Which
Was Given us In CHRIST JESUS Before the world began...”
(2 Timothy 1 : 9 KJB!)
“...According To HIS MERCY HE SAVED us...” (Titus 3 : 5 KJB!)
(16) Sealed:
By The Holy Spirit Unto The Day Of Redemption!
God’s Sure Foundation Has This SEAL:
“The LORD Knoweth them That Are HIS!”
(2 Timothy 2 : 19 KJB!)
(17) Translated:
“[SPIRITUALLY Transferred] Into The Kingdom Of HIS Dear SON!”
(Colossians 1 : 13 KJB!)
(18) Washed:
“And such [UNrighteous v. 9] were some of you: but ye are
WASHED, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified In The
Name Of The LORD JESUS, And By The Spirit Of our God.”
(1 Corinthians 6 : 11 KJB!)
“...CHRIST also Loved the church, and Gave HIMSELF For it;
That HE might sanctify and Cleanse it with The WASHING Of
Water By The WORD…” (Ephesians 5 : 25-26 KJB!)
Precious friend(s), In Conclusion:
“For we preach not ourselves, but CHRIST JESUS The LORD; and ourselves
your servants for JESUS’ Sake. For God, Who Commanded the light to shine
out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of
The Glory Of God In The Face Of JESUS CHRIST. But we have This Treasure in
earthen vessels, that The Excellency Of The Power may be Of God, and not of us.”
(2 Corinthians 4 : 5-7 KJB!)
ALL Because of CHRIST's FULL Sacrifice! Amen?
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In addition to These {6 Dozen +} Passages, God Also Has
More Scriptural Evidence Of HIS Glorious Eternal Salvation:
58 Solid Biblical Facts!
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
God's Simple Will!
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Amen, as he said, He who began a good work will complete it. Not might complete it.
however he has to begin it, which happens at the moment of salvation.
salvation can’t be lost because it can’t be earned,
people who lose faith lost it because God never started the good work, so by not experiencing Gods love, they think that he failed, and stop believing
like the example given earlier, the man admitted he searched for God, but never found him, that’s why he left and is now an atheist.
however he has to begin it, which happens at the moment of salvation.
salvation can’t be lost because it can’t be earned,
people who lose faith lost it because God never started the good work, so by not experiencing Gods love, they think that he failed, and stop believing
like the example given earlier, the man admitted he searched for God, but never found him, that’s why he left and is now an atheist.
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oops: Yes, There Certainly Are! Now, methinks of TWO Of God's Works,
That Happen {Chester's nanosecond?} "In The Twinkling Of an eye!":
Justification And Glorification! Amen?
God's Simple Will!
That Happen {Chester's nanosecond?} "In The Twinkling Of an eye!":
Justification And Glorification! Amen?
God's Simple Will!
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I am shamed, yet at the same time I am honored that you should count me as your friend.
obtw, could you please make your second point more legible and less blasphemous...
obtw, could you please make your second point more legible and less blasphemous...
if faith can be lost as you claim, that reflects badly on Jesus, not on the person
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I don’t see how a born again Christian could do worse than Hitler. When someone is born again God gives them a new heart and a new Spirit. The Holy Spirit produces love in the heart of a believer. How could the sinful nature be so strong to block out the Holy Spirit’s work of producing love in a believer? If someone is worse than Hitler than that would indicate to me that they don’t have God’s love in them.
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Totally agree with ya here, Oyster67. Faith is our part and is a condition of salvation.
"But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless in His presence— [if] indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant."
"Now Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house, testifying to what would be spoken later. But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are His house, [if] we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope of which we boast."
"We have come to share in Christ [if] we hold firmly to the end the assurance we had at first.
Therefore and as I have always proclaimed, it is not just OSAS, but faith is required from beginning to end.
"But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless in His presence— [if] indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant."
"Now Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house, testifying to what would be spoken later. But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are His house, [if] we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope of which we boast."
"We have come to share in Christ [if] we hold firmly to the end the assurance we had at first.
Therefore and as I have always proclaimed, it is not just OSAS, but faith is required from beginning to end.
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Hi Eternally-gratefull,
I just thought that I would chime in here:
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins.
You can't wander away from something that you were never a part of.
Notice that while in that wandered stated that the hypothetical person is accumulating sin and is on their way to death. And here is one more example:
"But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.’ And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not anticipate. Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. "
The above demonstrates a believer and even an overseer hypothetically going back into living according to the sinful nature. Notice the designations of 'servant' and "Master" demonstrating that the servant is a true believer which has turned away from faith. Notice the outcome.
God's grace is the wall outlet and our faith is the plug to God's grace. If we unplug it, we have been removed form the power of God's grace. We need to stay plugged in.
I just thought that I would chime in here:
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins.
You can't wander away from something that you were never a part of.
Notice that while in that wandered stated that the hypothetical person is accumulating sin and is on their way to death. And here is one more example:
"But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.’ And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not anticipate. Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. "
The above demonstrates a believer and even an overseer hypothetically going back into living according to the sinful nature. Notice the designations of 'servant' and "Master" demonstrating that the servant is a true believer which has turned away from faith. Notice the outcome.
God's grace is the wall outlet and our faith is the plug to God's grace. If we unplug it, we have been removed form the power of God's grace. We need to stay plugged in.
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May I suggest a picture that could help us.
So...there is a door before us, it says on it `Whosoever may enter.` Some enter and some don`t. Those who enter look behind them and on the back of the door it says `Chosen in Him.` Thus we see that `all` are invited, however the ones who respond are obviously `chosen` because they are now `in Christ.` Note that if `all` responded then `all` would be `chosen.`
The front door is our view, the back of the door, (Jesus) is God`s view, omniscient, (all knowing).
Marilyn.
So...there is a door before us, it says on it `Whosoever may enter.` Some enter and some don`t. Those who enter look behind them and on the back of the door it says `Chosen in Him.` Thus we see that `all` are invited, however the ones who respond are obviously `chosen` because they are now `in Christ.` Note that if `all` responded then `all` would be `chosen.`
The front door is our view, the back of the door, (Jesus) is God`s view, omniscient, (all knowing).
Marilyn.
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