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AllenF

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Jul 20, 2021
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Hey guys, Allen here. First off I’m super grateful to have found this message board. Long story short, fell out of my faith, basically doing the bare minimum, maybe prayer a few times a week and that was it. I once was praying all the time, giving praise to God for the many years looking to better myself but I got comfortable in life and fell off. Started using alcohol and whatever to run from my personal issues and insecurities which created a person totally different than who I was. I started creating a negative ripple effect in my personal life, lost jobs because I got lazy now I’m losing it all in terms of my wife of only a 20months who I worked my tail off to achieve but I had lost my purpose and drive and took my anger out and acted terrible to those closest to me. I’m in the midst of a divorce and I’m saddened because I really meant my vows but I know I have failed them and my wife is tired of trying to fix me because only I could do that and I would put a temporary bandaid on things, then the cycle would repeat. Essentially I just need some encouragement in these tough times to keep me on the right track which I have been for about 12-13 days now. I’m finally thinking clearly and wrote out all my issues but I feel a sense of peace because I can conquer them if I really try and I’m tired of running from them. It’s basically destroyed everything I worked hard for and the sad part is, if I just faced them I wouldn’t be in this situation. I’m just trying to do the next right thing daily and really working on myself to hopefully be able to create that positive ripple effect in my life. Bottom line is, I’m working on myself for once and not just those around me. It sad because I do love my wife but I understand the choices I have made have been a pattern and she doesn’t deserve to be put through that over and over again. I’m also saddened that this last time really broke the trust she had for me and she isn’t wanting to be there as I make these changes but all I can do is actually do what I said I will do for myself and hopefully she will she that.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Years ago, when I was married (before I messed it all up), my wife and I found her child, my step-daughter, to be a full-fledged prostitute that was using hard drugs. She was 14 years old. She had been gang-raped more than once, to say the least. In our struggles with this out-of-control step-daughter of mine, the Mrs and the biological father all agreed that we should "send her away" to a state that could retain her and give her proper correction. Do you think it worked? Nope.

What I learned, in the long run, is that I was the sick one. The mother was the sick one; and so was the biological father. The three adults that this beautiful creation was modeling was ourselves. She was just behaving in alignment with those who had given her life. Me? Alcoholic and sex addict. I was totally out of control. The biologicals were any better, yet we sent this beautiful creation away for correction? Hypocrites . . . that's what we were; for we were 100% wrong. And . . . we were utterly disgusting to treat her in this way.

If you want to prove to your wife that you're serious, send yourself "away" and do not return until you have "fixed" yourself. Prove to her that you are serious. Show your wife and you are so serious about changing, that you refuse to even allow your wife to be in your presence until you have proven that you have changed. Do you understand? If you're willing to do anything for her, then get busy and stop with all of the words. It's time for clear, hardcore action . . . and do it without words. Prove yourself.
 

AllenF

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Jul 20, 2021
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Years ago, when I was married (before I messed it all up), my wife and I found her child, my step-daughter, to be a full-fledged prostitute that was using hard drugs. She was 14 years old. She had been gang-raped more than once, to say the least. In our struggles with this out-of-control step-daughter of mine, the Mrs and the biological father all agreed that we should "send her away" to a state that could retain her and give her proper correction. Do you think it worked? Nope.

What I learned, in the long run, is that I was the sick one. The mother was the sick one; and so was the biological father. The three adults that this beautiful creation was modeling was ourselves. She was just behaving in alignment with those who had given her life. Me? Alcoholic and sex addict. I was totally out of control. The biologicals were any better, yet we sent this beautiful creation away for correction? Hypocrites . . . that's what we were; for we were 100% wrong. And . . . we were utterly disgusting to treat her in this way.

If you want to prove to your wife that you're serious, send yourself "away" and do not return until you have "fixed" yourself. Prove to her that you are serious. Show your wife and you are so serious about changing, that you refuse to even allow your wife to be in your presence until you have proven that you have changed. Do you understand? If you're willing to do anything for her, then get busy and stop with all of the words. It's time for clear, hardcore action . . . and do it without words. Prove yourself.
Appreciate that! I’m doing the right things by attending meetings daily, one seemed to help my mind but now I’m doing two. Talk is just words so I’m putting my game plan into action. Saw today money was taken out of the account for the lawyer and that got me back down but I’m trying to focus on work at the moment and be the best trainer I can. I think I might move out in the next week, basically already separated myself off into the basement and as much as I just want to give her a hug I know it’s tough for her emotionally and I’m doing my best to give her space and stay away. Really tired of talking about my plan, now I’m doing it so I should be happier with myself for actually finally taking action but I got to keep it up. Got rid of everything that caused me to slip and just separated myself from those environments. It’s just tough me being a believer and her not being one. I feel like sometimes she has 0 patience whereas If I slip up it’s a massive deal and sometimes when she does I don’t speak on it because she might not have been in a clear headspace in terms of alcohol use so I forgave her but I realized I should have talked about it so we could both better ourselves.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Make sure that she understand, when you have the chance to relay the message, that you're not making these changes for her, but for yourself. If you're not making these changes because you're sick of being who you are, then she'll know it . . . and that's game over. But if your heart still belongs to the things that caused you so much grief . . . and I mean if there is even a HINT of wanting those wordly items back in your life (to give you pleasure), your efforts will be fruitless. I guarantee you this: she doesn't want you to change just for her, for that will only a be a temporary change, but if you change because you want the Favor of God, she'll respect that infinitely more.

And listen . . . I know how this stuff works. If you are a "believer" and you married a non-believer, this marriage had very much to do with sex. It's time to give up the idea of sexual relations and dedicate yourself to the Lord. Your body was made to be indwelt by the Spirit of God . . . so keep it Holy (if the Spirit of God is Truly within you).

1 Corinthians 6:13 KJV - "Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body."
 

tourist

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Mar 13, 2014
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Hey guys, Allen here. First off I’m super grateful to have found this message board. Long story short, fell out of my faith, basically doing the bare minimum, maybe prayer a few times a week and that was it. I once was praying all the time, giving praise to God for the many years looking to better myself but I got comfortable in life and fell off. Started using alcohol and whatever to run from my personal issues and insecurities which created a person totally different than who I was. I started creating a negative ripple effect in my personal life, lost jobs because I got lazy now I’m losing it all in terms of my wife of only a 20months who I worked my tail off to achieve but I had lost my purpose and drive and took my anger out and acted terrible to those closest to me. I’m in the midst of a divorce and I’m saddened because I really meant my vows but I know I have failed them and my wife is tired of trying to fix me because only I could do that and I would put a temporary bandaid on things, then the cycle would repeat. Essentially I just need some encouragement in these tough times to keep me on the right track which I have been for about 12-13 days now. I’m finally thinking clearly and wrote out all my issues but I feel a sense of peace because I can conquer them if I really try and I’m tired of running from them. It’s basically destroyed everything I worked hard for and the sad part is, if I just faced them I wouldn’t be in this situation. I’m just trying to do the next right thing daily and really working on myself to hopefully be able to create that positive ripple effect in my life. Bottom line is, I’m working on myself for once and not just those around me. It sad because I do love my wife but I understand the choices I have made have been a pattern and she doesn’t deserve to be put through that over and over again. I’m also saddened that this last time really broke the trust she had for me and she isn’t wanting to be there as I make these changes but all I can do is actually do what I said I will do for myself and hopefully she will she that.
I believe that you are burned out and are in need of mental, physical, and spiritual healing. There are a lot of negative emotions circulating in your mind and this is not good. My counsel is to take a deep breath and relax for a moment.

Psalm 46:10
Be still, and know that I am God.

Face that only what God has placed in front of you and not what you have placed in front of you.

"Bottom line is" ...you are at rock bottom. I was in a similar place once years ago just before I joined this site. Loneliness was my friend and depression was lucking in the shadows. I was in my own little prison in my mind but God helped me break out and lifted me up from the pit of despair. His grasp is strong enough to lift you out too.

It is a shame about your marriage and your wife appears to be collateral damage. Perhaps she needs a clean slate too.

God will give you a new purpose.

Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.
 

oyster67

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May 24, 2014
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Hey guys, Allen here. First off I’m super grateful to have found this message board. Long story short, fell out of my faith, basically doing the bare minimum, maybe prayer a few times a week and that was it. I once was praying all the time, giving praise to God for the many years looking to better myself but I got comfortable in life and fell off. Started using alcohol and whatever to run from my personal issues and insecurities which created a person totally different than who I was. I started creating a negative ripple effect in my personal life, lost jobs because I got lazy now I’m losing it all in terms of my wife of only a 20months who I worked my tail off to achieve but I had lost my purpose and drive and took my anger out and acted terrible to those closest to me. I’m in the midst of a divorce and I’m saddened because I really meant my vows but I know I have failed them and my wife is tired of trying to fix me because only I could do that and I would put a temporary bandaid on things, then the cycle would repeat. Essentially I just need some encouragement in these tough times to keep me on the right track which I have been for about 12-13 days now. I’m finally thinking clearly and wrote out all my issues but I feel a sense of peace because I can conquer them if I really try and I’m tired of running from them. It’s basically destroyed everything I worked hard for and the sad part is, if I just faced them I wouldn’t be in this situation. I’m just trying to do the next right thing daily and really working on myself to hopefully be able to create that positive ripple effect in my life. Bottom line is, I’m working on myself for once and not just those around me. It sad because I do love my wife but I understand the choices I have made have been a pattern and she doesn’t deserve to be put through that over and over again. I’m also saddened that this last time really broke the trust she had for me and she isn’t wanting to be there as I make these changes but all I can do is actually do what I said I will do for myself and hopefully she will she that.
Welcome, brother Allen. Keep reminding yourself that it is only by God's help and power that we can become overcomers in any sense..

Revelations
3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
 

TabinRivCA

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Nice to meet you Allen and so glad the Lord led you to CC:) It's a challenge to be married to an unbeliever, and then also blow it ourselves. Then with alcohol involved, that doesn't help. I was in a similar situation and found that by praying and repenting of my own faults helped a lot. Read the Word each day and ask the Lord for wisdom and guidance to steer you through this. Then 'cast it up to God' , don't worry over it and take one day at a time--doing the best you can.
You got many heartfelt responses here and I pray God blesses you and also your wife!
 

AllenF

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Jul 20, 2021
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Thank you all so much, I have found a sense of peace. I just pray that we can have 1 more chance and really follow through with what therapy has told us to. We tried and things were going good so we got comfortable and fell back into old ways without sticking to our readings. So my prayer request is for one more chance to create boundaries and really give it our all this time, so worst case at the end of the day we could look back and know we truly gave it our all. I’m finally getting my life together in terms of myself and am currently finishing up step #4 of AA and I’m looking at my problems and seeing that I can really change these if I just stay focused on them and not get comfortable again. I’ve created a structured environment where I have so much accountability in my life I refuse to fail again and actively becoming the man I should have become all along and not run away from! Pray too that God blesses my wife and gives her discernment/wisdom and softens her heart please. Thank you, I will definitely keep checking this post every few hours and will become active all over the board, God bless!
 

de-emerald

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May 8, 2021
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Hey guys, Allen here. First off I’m super grateful to have found this message board. Long story short, fell out of my faith, basically doing the bare minimum, maybe prayer a few times a week and that was it. I once was praying all the time, giving praise to God for the many years looking to better myself but I got comfortable in life and fell off. Started using alcohol and whatever to run from my personal issues and insecurities which created a person totally different than who I was. I started creating a negative ripple effect in my personal life, lost jobs because I got lazy now I’m losing it all in terms of my wife of only a 20months who I worked my tail off to achieve but I had lost my purpose and drive and took my anger out and acted terrible to those closest to me. I’m in the midst of a divorce and I’m saddened because I really meant my vows but I know I have failed them and my wife is tired of trying to fix me because only I could do that and I would put a temporary bandaid on things, then the cycle would repeat. Essentially I just need some encouragement in these tough times to keep me on the right track which I have been for about 12-13 days now. I’m finally thinking clearly and wrote out all my issues but I feel a sense of peace because I can conquer them if I really try and I’m tired of running from them. It’s basically destroyed everything I worked hard for and the sad part is, if I just faced them I wouldn’t be in this situation. I’m just trying to do the next right thing daily and really working on myself to hopefully be able to create that positive ripple effect in my life. Bottom line is, I’m working on myself for once and not just those around me. It sad because I do love my wife but I understand the choices I have made have been a pattern and she doesn’t deserve to be put through that over and over again. I’m also saddened that this last time really broke the trust she had for me and she isn’t wanting to be there as I make these changes but all I can do is actually do what I said I will do for myself and hopefully she will she that.
welcome to cc @AllenF may the lord bless you and keep you.

I hope and pray you enjoy your stay:)