Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

Do you consider it as reasonably logical that a woman is equivalent to a child?

There are wives who are abusive also, verbally, and those who hit their husbands. Some people think of this sort of thing as a subject for comedy, but it must be difficult for men taught not to hit women, to have a woman hitting him whenever she gets mad. I read a post from a man whose ex-wife would hit him to wake him up in the middle of the night and crazy stuff like that. Even if she is much smaller than he is, it can be a dangerous situation. Men sleep, too, and there are knives in the kitchen. Anyway, my point is it goes both ways.

As far as my 'risks' comments, I made it clear earlier that I was talking about the idea of ultimatums about going to counselors in general, not the abuse topic.




II Peter 3 mentions husbands who do not obey the word, which includes unbelievers.



Why don't you address the actual points made in the post if you are going to reply, instead of obfuscating the issues with comments like this?



If you consider a comment to be rambling, you do not have to reply.



A lot of other subpoints show up in conversations like these. It's how conversations work. Otherwise people would just post 'yes' or 'no' and that would be it.



Can you find one thread on this forum where wives submitting to husbands is mentioned, but husbands loving their wives is not? People read that husbands are to love their wives as Christ loves the church and no one objects. But there are often negative comments and backlash when the subject of wives submitting to husbands is mentioned.



Suggesting someone may beat their wife, children, their dog, is a homosexual, or other stigmatized behavior, is often not appreciated.

I Peter 2
20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
(NKJV)

So, do you not think first century slaves enduring persecution in a domestic violence situation was not commendable before God no matter what the Bible says?

What about martyrs? Was what Stephen suffered commendable? Did Peter's death glorify God like the book of John says? What do you think about Jesus dying on the cross?

Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

NO!

End of story. It's really that simple.

"NO"!

wife is home, got to run to fix dinner.

I fixed a pot of chili for dinner tonight.

for the record, your posts, for the most part, in this thread, are disgusting



masochism is actually referred to as a 'condition', aka aberrant behavior.

some get their jollies in indulging in it and some get their jollies in talking about it and some get their jollies in imagining the looks on the faces of Christians who did not expect to find these posts in a thread that is basically nothing but click bait

here is your 1st post, #17 from this thread:

I’m not writing this from a Biblical perspective but you can’t deny this. Spanking is a huge turn on for some women. It has nothing to do with violence. It’s not like a rage induced beating. It’s a demonstration of dominance and authority. Granted “Fifty Shades of Grey” was a worldly poorly written book series. These books woke up a passion in MANY women. Carnally a woman is sexually driven to a dominant man to reproduce but psychologically driven to a fun man to spend time with. I did my research. More women than you think are ok with, even sexually stimulated by a man who lovingly administers a firm spanking when she admittedly “gets out of line”. Be clear, this is not about an uncontrolled beating. This is a disciplinary spanking. I can’t wait to see the thumbs down and Xs to follow.

you will note where you say I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE THUMBS DOWN AND X'S TO FOLLOW

an amateur psychiatrist will understand you are baiting people and anticipating an outcry for what you wrote. a professional, will understand that you are turned on by what you are posting about

A professional psychiatrist would probably agree with me. Most Christians like demonstrated here want to believe that the Bible states exactly what they think it does. Well, it doesn’t. At no point in scripture are women invited to rebuke men, but there you are casting your false accusations. For the record I find the whole domestic discipline thing to be disgusting, but it exists. I find pornography disgusting, but it exists, I find people who take what is stated as just information and then twist it into some sort of crusade disgusting. I love how you pick and choose what excerpts get replied to, completely out of context. Hopefully you read your Bible with more authenticity.

how do you make your chili? beef pork?

A professional psychiatrist would probably agree with me. Most Christians like demonstrated here want to believe that the Bible states exactly what they think it does. Well, it doesn’t. At no point in scripture are women invited to rebuke men, but there you are casting your false accusations. For the record I find the whole domestic discipline thing to be disgusting, but it exists. I find pornography disgusting, but it exists, I find people who take what is stated as just information and then twist it into some sort of crusade disgusting. I love how you pick and choose what excerpts get replied to, completely out of context. Hopefully you read your Bible with more authenticity. Yes I expect thumbs down on posts that aren’t directly quoted from scripture.

At no point in scripture are women invited to rebuke men, but there you are casting your false accusations.

you have created a false narrative and attack those with phantoms you have built. You judge those who are on this site only because we or most do not agree with your assessment. You are suffering from serious memory loss because your issue post was not from a biblical perspective as you stated. You see yourself as intellectually superior.

"A professional psychiatrist would probably agree with me."

LOL a little bit of narcissism professional psychiatrist would say. You keep saying "I find" as if you are an authority of sorts we all must kiss your ring. you tell us to read the word of God then in another post-attack those who hold to the Bible, LOL, what a joke.

I am intellectually confident.

Obviously you do not like me, and I’m ok with that.

nope they would not. sorry the fact I am a woman with a God given brain bothers you so much. I figure God knew what He was doing when He allowed my birth. I figure I am fortunate in that I had a father who always encouraged me in my endeavors and never once said I was limited because I was female.

Sexual Masochism Disorder

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Sexual masochism disorder falls within the category of psychiatric sexual disorders known as paraphilias, which involve recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, urges, or behaviors that are distressing or disabling and have the potential to cause harm to oneself or others. Sexual masochism refers to engaging in or frequently fantasizing about being beaten, bound, humiliated, or otherwise made to suffer, resulting in sexual satisfaction. If people with this sexual preference also report psychological or social problems as a result, they may be diagnosed with sexual masochism disorder. The types of distress that people with this disorder may experience include severe anxiety, guilt, shame, and obsessive thoughts about engaging in sexual masochism. (If a person has a masochistic sexual interest but experiences no distress and is able to meet other personal goals, then they would not be diagnosed as having a disorder.)
One specific type of sexual masochism is called asphyxiophilia, in which a person receives sexual satisfaction by having their breathing restricted. While some people engage in this practice with partners, others prefer to restrict their breathing while they are alone, and accidental death may happen as a result.
Sexually masochistic behavior is usually evident by early adulthood, and sometimes begins with masochistic or sadistic play during childhood.
Symptoms
To be diagnosed with sexual masochism disorder, according to the DSM-5, a person must experience recurrent and intense sexual arousal from being beaten, humiliated, bound, or from some other form of suffering. These types of urges, fantasies, or behaviors must be present for at least six months and cause clinically significant troubles or difficulty in social, occupational, or other important areas in life.
The extensive use of pornography involving the act of being humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer is sometimes an associated feature of the disorder.

That question wasn’t for you. He asked if I could imagine God spanking a woman. I can’t picture God spanking a child, so his point is as irrelevant as his ridiculous rebuttals. I don’t think spanking wives is recommended by Scripture New or Old Testament. My point all along has been that considering there is no Mosaic Law against it, and the women being treated more as property than equals, I’m certain it was accepted socially. I made a comment earlier on that some women wouldn’t be as opposed to getting spanked based on the popularity of the 50 shades series. Then dude started in on me being some sort of pedophile and pervert who spanks women out of depravity. All accusations are unfounded and malicious. There…now you’re all caught up.

beating your own drum does not do much for a person



awwwww

Rather, it appears I'd need to wait on you to catch up, considering you believe this behavior is permissible going by the assumption that deviant behavior is 'normal' because it is 'popular' and widespread.

I read this whole article and the most fascinating part is that none of it has anything to do with anything i stated. Please use your God given brain to be accurate. Are you telling me that if my wife decided to yell at me and I said, “We will have no more of that.” and a smacked her butt, and she got “tingly”, then that even closely relates to that article. Take a step back…or two. You seem to think I’m the poster boy for domestic violence. All I was saying originally was some women, not all, but some get “tingly” when a man demonstrates his authority as in the scenario given.

I wasn’t beating my drum, I was agreeing with him.

I am intellectually confident