Respecting the law

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do you respect the law

  • yes

    Votes: 9 75.0%
  • no

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Total voters
    12

de-emerald

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God also states he will give a new heart. How does that fit in? We are now to be led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does nothing apart from what God Himself would do nor does He teach anything apart from the truth.

Jesus says Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Matthew 11: 28-30

I do not believe we are to be burdened with the law. further it was only a shadow of what was to come...the New Covenant as I explained. The new heart comes with the new birth. This does not mean freedom to sin and frankly I have never seen anyone on this forum make that claim although some accuse others of saying that

Freedom in Christ means freedom from dos and donts. It means relationship with God and throwing off the religiosity of stone cold religion without the love and grace of God
I dont see the law being written on our hearts a burden. Its not as if where going to break the law all day. Or its not as if the law would repeat its self in our hearts all day. By your answer then i would assume you dont think the law is written on Christians hearts ?
 
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SophieT

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I dont see the law being written on our hearts a burden. Its not as if where going to break the law all day. Or its not as if the law would repeat its self in our hearts all day. By your answer then i would assume you dont think the law is written on Christians hearts ?
I am going to just stop here because I am not getting into another fruitless discussion on the law with anyone.

I provided a post wherein I explained how Christ has provided the complete answer to all of mankind's law keeping problems

If a person wants to hang onto the law, then by all means God will let them. But He cannot issue grace at the same time

Grace has replaced the law. I stated plainly that the law is not written on our hearts

I really have no more to say if you cannot get past the law being an integral part of the Christians life in spite of the fact the Bible states it was NEVER meant to be anything more than a SHADOW of the real thing

Has anyone ever received salvation through the law? At this point you can simply dismiss whatever I said and take it up with pilgrim there who has presented some of the most confusing posts I have ever read.

Most people here understand there is no law against God's grace. Some will say that is not love...but I am a straight forward person and do not believe in sugar coating the truth. Paul presents the truth and in case you do not know, folks who are strong on the law will often dismiss what Paul has to say

I believe those who think that way are under a snare and deceived.
 

de-emerald

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I am going to just stop here because I am not getting into another fruitless discussion on the law with anyone.

I provided a post wherein I explained how Christ has provided the complete answer to all of mankind's law keeping problems

If a person wants to hang onto the law, then by all means God will let them. But He cannot issue grace at the same time

Grace has replaced the law. I stated plainly that the law is not written on our hearts

I really have no more to say if you cannot get past the law being an integral part of the Christians life in spite of the fact the Bible states it was NEVER meant to be anything more than a SHADOW of the real thing

Has anyone ever received salvation through the law? At this point you can simply dismiss whatever I said and take it up with pilgrim there who has presented some of the most confusing posts I have ever read.

Most people here understand there is no law against God's grace. Some will say that is not love...but I am a straight forward person and do not believe in sugar coating the truth. Paul presents the truth and in case you do not know, folks who are strong on the law will often dismiss what Paul has to say

I believe those who think that way are under a snare and deceived.
Romans 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

Here we see the law being written on christians hearts. how can it be fruitless ?
By the grace of God he wrote the law on our heart.
Surley you can see that God showed us grace by writing his laws on on our heart.
 
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SophieT

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Romans 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

Here we see the law being written on christians hearts. how can it be fruitless ?
By the grace of God he wrote the law on our heart.
Surly you can see that God showed us grace by writing his laws on on our heart.
I think I have been drawn into a discussion that my head told me would be fruitless. My heart told me give it another try.

Now my head and my heart are in unison and I truly have no more time to spare while you entertain yourself. Done
 

de-emerald

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LOL! you have fun then discussing what you want to believe. I don't think you even read my post. No more games. Over
What a cop out ,, lol go on then go if you want to, i guess ill have to stay in the dog house then woof woof.
 
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SophieT

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What a cop out ,, lol go on then go if you want to, i guess ill have to stay in the dog house then woof woof.
ah...there you are woof woof

listen, I was not born or born again yesterday. people are just not engaging with you anymore because of your attitude.

so what do you do? awww...you just want friends. no actually you wanted an audience with which to discuss, actually insert, your beliefs that are contrary to scripture and I gave you some of my time and the whole time, all you had in mind was to do what you have just done again

you know like the song says? I won't be fooled again. tootles and you are on ignore
 

de-emerald

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ah...there you are woof woof

listen, I was not born or born again yesterday. people are just not engaging with you anymore because of your attitude.

so what do you do? awww...you just want friends. no actually you wanted an audience with which to discuss, actually insert, your beliefs that are contrary to scripture and I gave you some of my time and the whole time, all you had in mind was to do what you have just done again

you know like the song says? I won't be fooled again. tootles and you are on ignore
Ok God bless you.
 

de-emerald

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It would be a whole lot easier to understand your message if you didn’t call everything “law”; especially as most of Scripture is not law.
Galatians 5:1-7
The law of Christ is a law of liberty, a law of freedom made operative through the Spirit of God within us.

Even liberty comes with law but yet people say i talk about the law to much. :unsure:

I suppose taking liberty with out the law of christ is a law unto its self. :unsure:
 

Dino246

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Galatians 5:1-7
The law of Christ is a law of liberty, a law of freedom made operative through the Spirit of God within us.

Even liberty comes with law but yet people say i talk about the law to much. :unsure:

I suppose taking liberty with out the law of christ is a law unto its self. :unsure:
Where in Galatians 5:1-7 is "the law of Christ" mentioned?
 

de-emerald

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Where in Galatians 5:1-7 is "the law of Christ" mentioned?
James 1:25 kjv
25 But who so looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

the law of christ is freedom the law of liberty but also the law of christ is to be a slave to rightousness
Romans 6:15-23
Slaves to Righteousness
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

and also the law of christ which is freedom is to obediant to christ which leads to being a slave to rightousness

Ephesians 6:6-8
The Message

5-8 Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters but always with an eye to obeying the real master, Christ. Don’t just do what you have to do to get by, but work heartily, as Christ’s servants doing what God wants you to do. And work with a smile on your face, always keeping in mind that no matter who happens to be giving the orders, you’re really serving God. Good work will get you good pay from the Master, regardless of whether you are slave or free.
 

TenderHeart

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Reguarding the sabbath when we rest In Jesus we also rest in his kingdom. This is the same as honouring the sabbath.

When God spoke honor my sabbath day of rest, Jesus was also speaking here, Jesus is God.
So there will allways remain a sabbath rest. The added law is you may work in rest also and may rest in his sabbath-rest anytime.

Hebrews 4:9-11
9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works,[a] just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.
Please not the above scripture say there remains a sabbath rest and not a one day sabbath rest set a side for one day a week.

Do i have one day a week that i call the a sabbath day, no i do not, because i know Jesus worked on the sabbath day. I see the more important side to the law of resting in his sabbath which is being obediant to Jesus. resting from works and resting in his law,
I’ve started Keeping the Sabbath for the past month. (I’ve only been born again for three months, it took me a little bit to get to the point where I understood Sabbath and was called read about it in the Bible. )
It’s Thursday evening and I’m looking forward to this week’s Sabbath. 🕊

Life is so exhausting. I look forward Sabbath day where I can just rest and read the Bible and connect with God quietly. Take a nice nap. Take a walk and enjoy Elohim’s creations. Pray and read Christian books. Maybe watch a nice Christian movie in the evening. And eat.

How do you like to spend time with God and Jesus Christ on the Sabbath? ✝️🕊❤️

“And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭2:27-28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 

de-emerald

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I’ve started Keeping the Sabbath for the past month. (I’ve only been born again for three months, it took me a little bit to get to the point where I understood Sabbath and was called read about it in the Bible. )
It’s Thursday evening and I’m looking forward to this week’s Sabbath. 🕊

Life is so exhausting. I look forward Sabbath day where I can just rest and read the Bible and connect with God quietly. Take a nice nap. Take a walk and enjoy Elohim’s creations. Pray and read Christian books. Maybe watch a nice Christian movie in the evening. And eat.

How do you like to spend time with God and Jesus Christ on the Sabbath? ✝️🕊❤️

“And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭2:27-28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
God Knows my heart, and God can bring me in to his rest anytime he chooses, Knowing that i am loved by God is all the rest i need, and then sharing that love with friends is also rest to me. To know that i am safe, is rest, and to Know God loves me and i him is rest. To know that i am blessed Just fills my heart with Joy.
I look forward to Living in his rest for ever more, This is rest that we will have eternal life worth living, For Jesus said come to me all ye who are heavy in burden and i shall give ye rest. The heart can sing all day whilst i work strenuosly and i still have rest, I have my own pace and i can choose to work at a faster pace, as our loving God had provided us with everything we need. The lord our saviour Jesus will always sustain me whilst i pace my self. He knows when i need to rest and when i need to work.

I have seen the wonders of the heavens with thy own eyes, i tell you the truth, i have seen Our God working mirracles with thy own eyes. I tell you the truth i am a witness for the heavens.

Are lord are God showed me a mirracle one day and he said look up to the heavens, so i looked up, all of a sudden there was silver lines going around and a round the whole sky and covering the whole globe the whole sky. And he said thats me son spinning a new Yarn with my light, then the lord are God said nothing will stop me from making this world become a living Jewel with my light one day that will live forever. and nothing will stop me from making my people become living Jewels that live for ever also. That was one of many mirracles i have witnessed.
 

de-emerald

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Another amazing mirracle happend after that mirracle it was daytime God said look upto the heavens so i looked up then this Globe started to move across the sky, It was bigger than the sun, and it was glowing in blue sapphire, it just stopped and God spoke to me and said you are looking at cygnus my mighty bow cross of light this is a world that has became a kingdom and a living jewel in a star region you know as Cygnus, This kingdom is where all my angels dwell. Then the globe began to change colour, from Gold and onyx to silver and blue to jasper and beryll to ligure and carbuncle, Then God said this will happen to this world one day meaning our world. The day after he told me look up to the heavens again where all of a sudden a huge star came into phocus, it was bigger than any star i had ever seen then befor my verry eyes it vanished then came back and change colour 4 times from blue to red to gold and silver to white, Then God spoke to me and said this is a birth of new star that will give birth to loads more stars that will enable our world to become a living Jewel. Then right befor my eyes a shooting star shot across the Sky. and the lord God spoke to me again and said you have witnessed the birth of a star that can bow my light across the sky anywhere then God said this birth is from the other star you just witnessed and there will be many more like it. This star will bow my light from other light untill the Job is done of making our world becomes a living Jewel. wow and so this was 2 years ago and since then i have seen our sky at night change colours many many times and shooting stars all over the place and stars flashing at daytime all the over the sky, and wow,
 

de-emerald

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And befor anyone says other wise, no i dont have birds tweeting in my head lol:) as my brother would claim but i do have a special Gift of seeing in ultra violet light like robins can. every day i see the oracle of light rise up and fall on the horizon its so majestic.
 

TenderHeart

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And befor anyone says other wise, no i dont have birds tweeting in my head lol:) as my brother would claim but i do have a special Gift of seeing in ultra violet light like robins can. every day i see the oracle of light rise up and fall on the horizon its so majestic.
So beautiful thank you for sharing. God bless you with vision!