The second coming of Jesus

You are not getting a better understanding...you are getting a new age religion approach to God's word....not kosher, because it slants the true meaning of the Bible to a deception point through the changing of His intent.
Those following such approach will be held accountable.

@Ahwatukee do you believe that the tribulation is going to happen soon and therefore rapture?

Hello again, RubyTuesday!

With the increase of knowledge, the fact that the technology for the mark of the beast is here and has been evolving. And the fact that there is no more fear of God in the world with everyone eagerly embracing the sinful nature, I most assuredly believe that the tribulation, i.e. the time of God's wrath is at the doorstep. That said, that also brings us closer the event of the Lord's appearing to gather His church, which must take place prior to said wrath, which is initiated by the opening of that first seal rider on the white horse which is symbolically representing the revealing of the antichrist.

It use to be that there was reverence and a fear of God in the world, even among those who did not commit to Him. Now, it's like the floodgates have been opened. People are just running head-long and embracing the sinful nature. They've forgotten about God and what is coming. I can't begin to image what the world will be like once the Restrainer is taken out of the way and with Him, the church.

Those who are in Christ, as they go from faith to faith, are being transformed into the image of the Lord, which is the fruit of the Spirit. Those who have not believed in Him, are going in the exact opposite direction and are bearing fruit from the sinful nature.

When we read about idol worship in the OT, we think of graven images. Putting that into perspective for today, everyone who is not in Christ is an idolater, because with them everything in their lives is before God. Their graven images are the works of mankind, i.e. the products of mankind, cell phones, tv's, cars, gaming systems, etc., etc., which are the things that the world idolizes. Scripture even states that greed is idolatry. Anything and everything that comes before God, being first in a persons heart, is idolatry.

"Put to death, therefore, the components of your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is idolatry." - Colossians 3:5

In addition, we have a world-wide drug problem. What many don't know is that, the word 'pharmakeia' which is where we get our English word pharmaceuticals from, is defined as 'the use of medicine, drugs or spells' and which is translated in scripture as sorcery, magic arts or witchcraft. Therefore, many who are using drugs whether recreationally or are addicted to, are involved in sorcery/witchcraft, even though they may not be having anything to do with enchantments or casting spells.

Regarding the mark of the beast technology, click on the links below:

I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video

Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video

So yes! We are on the cusp of the church being gathered, followed by God's time of wrath which will close on all of the inhabitants of the earth like a trap.

Thanks Ahwatukee for your explanation. My next question lol is have you ever watched the Berisheet Prophecy video that goes for about an hour?

May the Lord reveal all of these mysteries to you.

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As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
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So since the 'one taken' group is being compared to those in the flood who were 'taken away' then it cannot be speaking about the righteous being gathered at the rapture. Those who are left will be the remnant of the great tribulation saints who will have made it alive through the entire tribulation period. These along with Israel, will be those who will enter into the millennial kingdom and repopulate the earth. The one's left are also mentioned in Matt.24:31 where the angels will gather the elect from the four corners of the earth and will bring them to the Lord. Many interpret this as the gathering of the church as well, but these are living people that the angels will be gatherings. Note: when the Lord comes to gather His church, angels do not gather us, but will be changed into our immortal and glorified bodies, in power. When that voice that sounds like a trumpet says, "come up here" then we will be changed and caught up to the Lord. No angels involved in that one, except for the voice of the archangel.

I was reading in Luke today and I saw this:

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

This is what the disciples were asking Jesus after he explained about how the "one will be taken, the other left" (paraphrasing.) Luke 17:22-36.

I remembered how the prophets told the people that the bodies would pile up in the field and out in the open and the birds (fowls of the air) and the beasts of the field would feed on them. There are other numerous references by the prophets about the "eagle" or other bird would be present where the bodies are.

This lends more support directly to your statement that those "taken" are in fact the ones taken for death as opposed to be taken in a rapture. Because the disciples asked the Lord "where?" And he mentioned where the eagles were. So, the grisly picture of dead bodies being devoured by creatures is where the ones "taken" are going.

I wasn't sure what you were saying was correct about righteous and unrighteous being gathered, but that Bible verse does comport with what you explained. I can see your point in the scriptures. So, I wanted to point that out to you for the next person you have to convince.

I don't think two women represent two person, one is flesh body,and one is Spiritual body.
He catch up our spiritual body and left flesh body.

Hi Soberxp,

The word 'anastasis' translated as 'Resurrection' means to 'stand up again in the same body.' Jesus is our example of this. His body was in the tomb and His spirit was in Sheol/Hades. When it was time, His spirit returned to the same body that was in the tomb and He stood up again in that same body. At the time of the resurrection of the church, all of those spirits who have died in Christ will be reunited with their bodies which will be resurrected immortal and glorified. Those who are still alive when the resurrection takes place, will simply be transformed into their immortal and glorified bodies and caught up with those who will have just resurrected. All of that said, the resurrection always has to do with the same body standing up again.

As an example, if say a believer died the day before the resurrection and it was lying on the coroners table, when that resurrection took place the next day, that body would no longer be laying on that table, because his spirit would have returned to his body and would have been caught up to meet the Lord in the air.

It is only at the time of death that the spirit departs from the body and awaits the resurrection from heaven.

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Strong's Concordance
anastasis: a standing up, i.e. a resurrection, a raising up, rising
Original Word: ἀνάστασις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: anastasis
Phonetic Spelling: (an-as'-tas-is)
Definition: a standing up, a resurrection, a raising up, rising
Usage: a rising again, resurrection.

HELPS Word-studies
386 anástasis (from 303 /aná, "up, again" and 2476 /hístēmi, "to stand") – literally, "stand up" (or "stand again"), referring to physical resurrection (of the body).

Christ's physical resurrection is the foundation of Christianity, which also guarantees the future resurrection of all believers (see Jn 6:39,40,44).

[386 /anástasis ("resurrection") refers to the physical, bodily resurrection of Christ – and people (both of the redeemed and the unredeemed).]

Coming in judgment? ( I believe in a lesser way this is true for people for all time the Lord may come and they may die, so be ready all the time)

Coming in salvation? (Only with the Thesalonians resurrection)

I personally think the text is referring to the "day of the Lord" as one physical pinpoint day.

God's long-suffering until the day of Wrath

no one receives the Judgment of God that they deserve in this life, which is why the wicked are able to flourish but it's temporary

I was reading in Luke today and I saw this:

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

This is what the disciples were asking Jesus after he explained about how the "one will be taken, the other left" (paraphrasing.) Luke 17:22-36.

I remembered how the prophets told the people that the bodies would pile up in the field and out in the open and the birds (fowls of the air) and the beasts of the field would feed on them. There are other numerous references by the prophets about the "eagle" or other bird would be present where the bodies are.

This lends more support directly to your statement that those "taken" are in fact the ones taken for death as opposed to be taken in a rapture. Because the disciples asked the Lord "where?" And he mentioned where the eagles were. So, the grisly picture of dead bodies being devoured by creatures is where the ones "taken" are going.

I wasn't sure what you were saying was correct about righteous and unrighteous being gathered, but that Bible verse does comport with what you explained. I can see your point in the scriptures. So, I wanted to point that out to you for the next person you have to convince.

Eagles, buzzards, hawks and the l like are carnivores which specialize in carrion, decaying meat.

The saying is a warning to beware of those who will attack the Body Members to devour them.

Where ever the Body is, there also will be the eagles. A good example, a forum on the Word.