Real pandemic vs fake pandemic

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that's awful! I pray you are able to get the care you need soon

Heavenly Father...we agree here that '49' will be able to receive the care that he needs soon. You know the entire situation and all that is going on with this so called covid and the vaccinations. We ask in Jesus name that room will be made so that 49 gets attention and medical help. Amen
Thank you sister! 🙂
 

Aidan1

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Vaccinated people no longer need to wear masks anywhere, which means the only ones wearing masks would be assumed to be anti-vaxxers/Trump supporters/etc. and be targets of violence. I believe this was done on purpose.
So far I know from Media, Trump supporter and anti- vaxxers dont wear masks. So what the fear for?
But this decision is unwise from Biden. It Splits.
In germany all have still to wear masks.
 
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So far I know from Media, Trump supporter and anti- vaxxers dont wear masks. So what the fear for?
But this decision is unwise from Biden. It Splits.
In germany all have still to wear masks.
That’s the whole problem right there, sir...the media.
 

Aidan1

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That’s the whole problem right there, sir...the media.
So, you think, that all media is sending fake news? Without Media, many politicans can do what they want. Trump is for me an good example. What support Him is good Media, what critizise him is bad Media.
It is no mystery that trump supporters f.e. tend to wear no masks.
The Main Problem in your country is, that what makes you special in the past. Is not more, you are a divided country. And their is hate against each other. How such a country can survive? You have race conflict and reps and dems.
Believers in Christ, then should stand together.
 

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So, you think, that all media is sending fake news? Without Media, many politicans can do what they want. Trump is for me an good example. What support Him is good Media, what critizise him is bad Media.
It is no mystery that trump supporters f.e. tend to wear no masks.
The Main Problem in your country is, that what makes you special in the past. Is not more, you are a divided country. And their is hate against each other. How such a country can survive? You have race conflict and reps and dems.
Believers in Christ, then should stand together.

sadly , that true. we ( america) do hate each other.

why do we hate each other?

the media and the divide and conquer institutions called colleges.

do yourself a favor- look up " operation mockingbird ".

it will explain how and why the media does what it does..
 
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So, you think, that all media is sending fake news? Without Media, many politicans can do what they want. Trump is for me an good example. What support Him is good Media, what critizise him is bad Media.
It is no mystery that trump supporters f.e. tend to wear no masks.
The Main Problem in your country is, that what makes you special in the past. Is not more, you are a divided country. And their is hate against each other. How such a country can survive? You have race conflict and reps and dems.
Believers in Christ, then should stand together.
Have said in another thread that this country is imploding. A country divided will not stand, and America is divided, and full of hate.
During Trump’s presidency, media towards him was negative...I’d say about 97%.
Whoa, derailing the thread here. I’ma gonna stop so as not to take away.

Do agree with your last sentence. Believers in Christ should stand together; unfortunately, there is division there also.
 

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sadly , that true. we ( america) do hate each other.

why do we hate each other?

the media and the divide and conquer institutions called colleges.

do yourself a favor- look up " operation mockingbird ".

it will explain how and why the media does what it does..
Thank you for information.
Well, but on which side are the performers
Of ,, Operation mockingbird,, then?
 

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What support Him is good Media, what critizise him is bad Media.
You have not been paying very close attention to ALL the Western media networks. The mainstream media (including those in Europe). They are all presently engaged in (1) propaganda, (2) disinformation, (3) misinformation, (4) outright lies, and (5) slanted news. They are not just anti-Trump. They are anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-patriotic, anti-law and order, and anti-true science.

Let's take an example from one of the worst offenders -- the New York Times. Here's some foolishness to mislead people about masks.

"Maybe We Need Masks Indoors Just a Bit Longer"

"On Thursday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say it did not believe that fully vaccinated people needed to wear masks or distance indoors or out, with a few exceptions, like when using public transportation.

It’s difficult for officials to issue rules as conditions evolve and uncertainty continues. So I hesitate to question the agency’s approach. But it’s not clear whether it was responding to scientific evidence or public clamor to lift state and local mandates, which the C.D.C. said could remain in place.

It might have been better to have kept up indoor mask mandates to help suppress the virus for maybe as little as a few more weeks.

The C.D.C. could have set metrics to measure such progress, saying that guidelines would be maintained until the number of cases or the number vaccinations reached a certain level, determined by epidemiologists."


So let's take a closer look at these stupid remarks.

1. The CDC has been flip-flopping about everything every day. Now that they realize that they look foolish if on one hand they claim that vaccines immunize people and on the other hand they claim that those same people are infectious. So now they have said that if you are vaccinated, you do not need a mask.

2. What they have failed to say all along, as has this writer, is that MASKS ARE TOTALLY USELESS. That is the result of actual studies with masks and the opinion of respected doctors. There should never have been any masking, since masks are also hazardous to your health.

3. Then she talks about "conditions evolving and uncertainty continuing". That is TOTAL NONSENSE. The actual figures of the CDC show that only 6% of COVID deaths were directly due to coronavirus. And only 0.1% of the total population died. In other countries it ranges from 0.04% to 0.08% of the total population.

However the VAERS data shows that the deaths from these bogus vaccines in less than one year are greater than THE SUM TOTAL OF VACCINE DEATHS over the last 15 years.

In the USA from 2005 to 2020 total vaccine deaths were 3,445. However from 2020 to 2021, the vaccines deaths are about 4,500 at present (and growing). Check it out for yourself.
 

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You have not been paying very close attention to ALL the Western media networks. The mainstream media (including those in Europe). They are all presently engaged in (1) propaganda, (2) disinformation, (3) misinformation, (4) outright lies, and (5) slanted news. They are not just anti-Trump. They are anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-patriotic, anti-law and order, and anti-true science.

Let's take an example from one of the worst offenders -- the New York Times. Here's some foolishness to mislead people about masks.

"Maybe We Need Masks Indoors Just a Bit Longer"

"On Thursday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say it did not believe that fully vaccinated people needed to wear masks or distance indoors or out, with a few exceptions, like when using public transportation.

It’s difficult for officials to issue rules as conditions evolve and uncertainty continues. So I hesitate to question the agency’s approach. But it’s not clear whether it was responding to scientific evidence or public clamor to lift state and local mandates, which the C.D.C. said could remain in place.

It might have been better to have kept up indoor mask mandates to help suppress the virus for maybe as little as a few more weeks.

The C.D.C. could have set metrics to measure such progress, saying that guidelines would be maintained until the number of cases or the number vaccinations reached a certain level, determined by epidemiologists."


So let's take a closer look at these stupid remarks.

1. The CDC has been flip-flopping about everything every day. Now that they realize that they look foolish if on one hand they claim that vaccines immunize people and on the other hand they claim that those same people are infectious. So now they have said that if you are vaccinated, you do not need a mask.

2. What they have failed to say all along, as has this writer, is that MASKS ARE TOTALLY USELESS. That is the result of actual studies with masks and the opinion of respected doctors. There should never have been any masking, since masks are also hazardous to your health.

3. Then she talks about "conditions evolving and uncertainty continuing". That is TOTAL NONSENSE. The actual figures of the CDC show that only 6% of COVID deaths were directly due to coronavirus. And only 0.1% of the total population died. In other countries it ranges from 0.04% to 0.08% of the total population.

However the VAERS data shows that the deaths from these bogus vaccines in less than one year are greater than THE SUM TOTAL OF VACCINE DEATHS over the last 15 years.

In the USA from 2005 to 2020 total vaccine deaths were 3,445. However from 2020 to 2021, the vaccines deaths are about 4,500 at present (and growing). Check it out for yourself.
So then which vaccine and how to how much people where the vaccine given fromm 2005 - 2020.? And how much vaccine are given against Covid?

That there is an shureness how to treat people with the vaccine is logic. Thats a new vaccine, no longterm expieriences, many Mutants from the origin 3 types of Covid.
Mask of course cant protect, but they can minimize to inhale ore to spread.
Otherwise their would no reason to wear masks during a surgery.

But what makes you shure that the Media you follow are correct in their reports?
They also want to support their view.

You know what I mean, in fact we have no assurance that any Media is correct in their reports.

What I see in our country is thst people have
fear to get the infection and fear to get the vaccine.
It is clear that the most people dont will have serious problems with the infection.
But nobody knows who will and who not, after also younger people died and have serious health problems afterward.
The vaccine is giving Maximum protection, but only 90-95 %. So it can be that a vaccined can be reinfectet ore can spread the virus, if he is infectet.
You as unvaccined, can be infectet with Covid and will like the most without symptoms and you can spread it then without knowing to others, which will have then serious healthproblems ore even can die.
Thats why is there much unsureness among the virologes, the medicala and the politics.
How to treat with this virus.
You can of course questioning everything, but what helps it to find a solution?
I will believe that our goverment search the best for the folks.
From all the denyers, and anti vacciners I did not hear any solution.
That Covid is real I dont need media. I have it in my hospital.
 

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So then which vaccine and how to how much people where the vaccine given fromm 2005 - 2020.? And how much vaccine are given against Covid?

That there is an shureness how to treat people with the vaccine is logic. Thats a new vaccine, no longterm expieriences, many Mutants from the origin 3 types of Covid.
Mask of course cant protect, but they can minimize to inhale ore to spread.
Otherwise their would no reason to wear masks during a surgery.

But what makes you shure that the Media you follow are correct in their reports?
They also want to support their view.

You know what I mean, in fact we have no assurance that any Media is correct in their reports.

What I see in our country is thst people have
fear to get the infection and fear to get the vaccine.
It is clear that the most people dont will have serious problems with the infection.
But nobody knows who will and who not, after also younger people died and have serious health problems afterward.
The vaccine is giving Maximum protection, but only 90-95 %. So it can be that a vaccined can be reinfectet ore can spread the virus, if he is infectet.
You as unvaccined, can be infectet with Covid and will like the most without symptoms and you can spread it then without knowing to others, which will have then serious healthproblems ore even can die.
Thats why is there much unsureness among the virologes, the medicala and the politics.
How to treat with this virus.
You can of course questioning everything, but what helps it to find a solution?
I will believe that our goverment search the best for the folks.
From all the denyers, and anti vacciners I did not hear any solution.
That Covid is real I dont need media. I have it in my hospital.

did any research on operation mockingbird yet???
 
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This is why the world rebels against God and it is the end time and the coronavirus is part of the plan.

Since evolution came out they started interpreting religion and reality differently, so things will change because of that.

The new age movement the beginning of the end.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement and their false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater and spiritual above Jesus, and all who follow him will evolve.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

Alice Bailey the biggest prophet of the new age movement wrote many books speaking of the coming united religious system, one world government, and New Age Christ, and other occult things, and they set up a web site lucistrust.org promoting her books and writing.

She was married to a Freemason who agreed with her writing, so he is of the inner circle of Freemason, which there is an inner circle and outer circle of the occult, and Alice Bailey said the inner circle is the true church.

The esoteric meaning of Lucifer, how they interpret the Bible.

There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since.Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin generative case meaning of light. The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The time will come that the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear the Bible according to their own lusts to evolve to be spiritual with no higher power above them.

This is how they interpret the Bible now, and that is why they took prayer out of school and taught evolution.

That is why things will change and they are trying to establish the new age movement in the world which they interpret all religions that way.

Evolution changed the way they view religion to where they will eventually not acknowledge a personal God.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and work as a great man of peace for the world, and be the biggest player on the world scene, and push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

Which will be the time the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age movement.

And the time they will forbid a man and a woman from coming together for population reduction which the antichrist will have no desire of women, and command to abstain from meat.

They will take all people from the rural areas and place them in the cities like a sophisticated concentration camp, and no development can happen outside city limits which is part of United Nations Agenda 21 which they want every city, county, and federal government to be Agenda 21 compatible by 2030 which 179 nations agreed to Agenda 21 in 1992 which is a sustainability act but it is an excuse to get the nations cooperating with each other for a global government.

The coronavirus is an excuse, and they are exaggerating it, and blowing it out of proportion, to give the people a vaccine but they want it to fail so they can use nanotechnology to conquer the coronavirus but they can also track people with it by radio waves.

Which scientists want the nanotechnology and said they will need a new vaccine in less than a year which the plan is to have all people vaccinated with the nanotechnology before they locate all people to the cities to start tracking them.

This will condition them for the mark of the beast for they are being tracked anyway which will be a microchip linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for people with all information on the chip including finances for no person can buy or sell without the chip.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under the skin for identification of the person and a scar of service to the antichrist.

666 is the number of a man, the New Age Christ, which he is of the occult, and the occult believes in the power of numbers, and the adding, timing, and grouping of numbers, for more power through nature, and 6 is the number of man, or the soul of man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature, and more chance for him to succeed in establish his kingdom and ruling the world.

If people want to know about the end time all you have to say is the new age movement for that is what causes the end time events to happen as the world changes their stance on religion which evolution is religion and the New Age Christ pushes the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

I wanted to give you a foundation of what is going on and why it is the end time and why the world rebels against God.

And with the conflict in Israel between the Jews and Palestinians it could be close to the New Age Christ establishing peace in the Middle East, and when he does establish peace with a 7 year covenant the world has 7 years left and then God will end sin on earth and it is over and God will have His people with Him.

That is how close it is and the new age movement comes out at the latter times which is the last of the last days and close to Jesus coming back.

The coronavirus is a joke and things are moving fast now as they are going full steam ahead to produce the antichrist and their kingdom and setting the stage for it.

The BLM movement is pushing Agenda 21 and helping to cause that kingdom to come about because of what they stand for and what they want.

Ryan Bomberger wrote an article 10 reasons I will not support BLM so what he writes about is what BLM is about and they are a movement that is helping to advance the kingdom to come.

https://townhall.com/columnists/ryanbomberger/2020/06/05/top-10-reasons-i-reject-the-blm-n2570105

But they are going to wish they never started the movement because they are not going to like the end result.

What they fail to understand is that they are helping to cause a kingdom to come about where the New Age Christ will be a white supremist for he is operating by the flesh so he will be prejudice for in the flesh dwells no good thing.

BLM is helping to advance setting the stage and causing the kingdom to come about and saying we are against white supremacy and they do not know that the end result with be a white supremist who will rule the world.

The Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts the world down, and the prince to come will be from the people who over threw Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.

For neither a Jew nor a Palestinian can establish peace in the Middle East as they will think that it will be not in the favor of the other people so it has to be someone else which will be a Caucasian.
 
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Vaccinated people no longer need to wear masks anywhere, which means the only ones wearing masks would be assumed to be anti-vaxxers/Trump supporters/etc. and be targets of violence. I believe this was done on purpose.
you think people who refuse the un-vacc or only wear a mask if they absolutley have to (medical app for example) are going to wear masks now and paint a target on their own back?

LOL!
 
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you think people who refuse the un-vacc or only wear a mask if they absolutley have to (medical app for example) are going to wear masks now and paint a target on their own back?

LOL!
Yes, because a lot of people fear about their health and death even if they don't acknowledge it, one reason why many are not taking the vaccines.
 
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Yes, because a lot of people fear about their health and death even if they don't acknowledge it, one reason why many are not taking the vaccines.
that does not compute with your previous post

people who refuse the vaccine are not worried or afraid...other than about the poison being called a vaccine

great that we do not have to wear masks anymore but I guess if someone wants to wear a mask even in their own house or car, they can do so

no one is going to jump up and down and say 'over here...over here' I'm not vaccinated...as you posted they would

anyway, hardly worth the time explaining it if I have to :giggle:
 
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no one is going to jump up and down and say 'over here...over here' I'm not vaccinated...as you posted they would
This is what will happen. If people who are not vaccinated do not have to wear masks, and people who don't do, they will stick out like targets. This is especially the case in the workplace unless you lie to your coworkers and boss and tell them you took the vaccine (which most people will not do because it will eventually be known or figured out somehow). Plus, lying is a sin.
 
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This is what will happen. If people who are not vaccinated do not have to wear masks, and people who don't do, they will stick out like targets. This is especially the case in the workplace unless you lie to your coworkers and boss and tell them you took the vaccine (which most people will not do because it will eventually be known or figured out somehow). Plus, lying is a sin.

ummm

ok then...well I tried
 

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Medical information is protected by HIPAA
 
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Medical information is protected by HIPAA
People who say that's not your business, etc. didn't take the vaccine. Most companies, if they do not require vaccinations, will at least follow CDC guidance will want employees to wear masks if they did not vaccinate I believe.