Medical Opinion: vaccinated people are a hazard to others

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Nehemiah6

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America’s Frontline Doctors: COVID-vaccinated can ‘shed’ spike protein, harming unvaccinated
As these experimental vaccines create ‘spike proteins,’ vaccinated individuals ‘can shed some of these particles to close contacts’ causing disease in them, including in children.

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LOS ANGELES, California, May 3, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In their latest issue brief, America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) warned how spike proteins resulting from experimental COVID-19 gene therapy vaccines have the capacity to 1.) pass through the “blood-brain barrier” causing neurological damage, 2.) be “shed” by the vaccinated, bringing about sickness in unvaccinated children and adults, and 3.) cause irregular vaginal bleeding in women.

Released last week and titled “Identifying Post-vaccination Complications & Their Causes: an Analysis of Covid-19 Patient Data,” the stated purpose of the document is “to provide additional information for concerned citizens, health experts, and policymakers about adverse events and other post-vaccination issues resulting from the three experimental COVID-19 vaccines currently administered under EUA (emergency use authorization)” by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The non-profit organization highlighted the thousands of adverse events which are related to these “vaccines” and captured by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). “Yet these complications have received a fraction of the attention paid to J&J’s blood-clotting controversy,” they lamented with dismay, asking, “Why?” In taking a closer look at this data, AFLDS presents “some major categories of concern as-yet publicly unaddressed by either the FDA or CDC,” asserting that failure of these regulators “to consider these and other ‘known unknowns’ is a dereliction of basic medical research.”
[NOTE: FDA AND CDC ARE PART OF A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY]

They breakout their general categories of concern as shown below:


First, there are significant fears regarding the wide distribution of these new vaccines, which employ a new technology and remain only experimental without full approval from the FDA. Instead of employing an attenuated antigen response – as happens with conventional vaccines – these experimental agents introduce something called a “spike protein” into one’s system. “It takes years to be sure something new is safe,” the AFLDS document confirms. “No one knows definitively the long-term health implications for the body and brain, especially among the young, related to this spike protein. In addition, if documented problems with the protein do arise, there will never be any way to reverse the adverse effects in those already vaccinated.”

Second, unlike conventional vaccines, these spike proteins, along with “lipid nanoparticles” have the capacity to pass through the “blood-brain barrier” which provides special protection for these sensitive areas of the body. “There simply has not been enough time to know what brain problems and how often a brain problem will develop from that,” the document warns. Risks from such penetration include “chronic inflammation and thrombosis (clotting) in the neurological system, contributing to tremors, chronic lethargy, stroke, Bell’s Palsy and ALS-type symptoms. The lipid nanoparticles can potentially fuse with brain cells, resulting in delayed neuro-degenerative disease. And the mRNA-induced spike protein can bind to brain tissue 10 to 20 times stronger than the spike proteins that are (naturally) part of the original virus.”

Third, as these experimental vaccines produce many trillions of spike proteins in their recipients, these vaccinated individuals “can shed some of these (spike protein) particles to close contacts,” causing disease in them. In an email correspondence with LifeSiteNews, Dr. Simone Gold, the founder of AFLDS, directed this writer to an April 29 tweet where she posted a document from Pfizer’s experimental trials in which the pharmaceutical giant “acknowledges this mechanism” of potential shedding, she wrote. As the document states, one can be “exposed to [the] study intervention due to environmental exposure,” including “by inhalation or skin contact” with someone involved in the study, or with another who has been exposed in the same way.

And this, according to AFLDS, can be dangerous. As the issues brief continues, “the spike proteins are pathogenic (‘disease causing’) just like the full virus.” Furthermore, these “spike proteins bind more tightly than the fully intact virus” and thus cases around the world of “pericarditis, shingles, pneumonia, blood clots in the extremities and brain, Bell’s Palsy, vaginal bleeding and miscarriages have been reported in persons who are near persons who have been vaccinated.” Such shedding also “appears to be causing wide variety of autoimmune disease (where the body attacks its own tissue) in some persons.” In addition, other more serious dangers to even the unvaccinated are possible due to the fact that these “spike proteins can cross the blood brain barrier, unlike traditional vaccines.”
 

Nehemiah6

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PART II

Fourth, such shedding leaves children vulnerable if they are in proximity to parents and teachers who have received these experimental vaccines. While the threat of COVID-19 to the young is rightly described as “irrelevant,” including a 99.997% survival rate for those under 20 years of age, AFLDS is concerned some children may become symptomatic due to such proximity to the vaccinated. At such point there is a danger that “public health bureaucrats” might use such cases to “speculate that a child's illness is related to a SARS-CoV-2 ‘variant,’” when it is a result of contact with vaccinated adults. “Our other concern is that children could develop long-term chronic autoimmune disease including neurological problems due to the fact that children have decades ahead of them and trillions of the spike proteins mentioned above.”

Fifth, “AFLDS is aware of thousands of reports involving vaginal bleeding, post-menopausal vaginal bleeding, and miscarriages following COVID-19 vaccination as well as anecdotal reports of similar adverse events among those in close contact with the vaccinated.” While at this point the independent physicians organization “cannot comment definitively on the close contacts” other than to mention they “have heard reports of this worldwide,” the many reported incidents of post-vaccination vaginal bleeding establishes a clear “connection between the vaccine and irregular bleeding.” “Despite this clear-cut evidence, menstrual-cycle changes were not listed among the FDA’s common side effects in its phase-three clinical participants. Women’s reproductive health needs to be taken seriously rather than waved away by agenda-driven public health officials,” the brief reads.

Finally, acknowledging the “irrepressible economic incentive among pharmaceutical companies” to market unnecessary and dangerous childhood COVID vaccines, boosters, and the like, AFLDS insists “Public health experts should stop and assess data on possible vaccine side effects and related post-vaccination questions before it is too late.”


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This DNA altering injection reminds me of the nephilim in Genesis 6. Last time this happened, God destroyed the Earth with water. Next time, it will be with fire.
 

Magenta

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This DNA altering injection reminds me of the nephilim in Genesis 6. Last time
this happened, God destroyed the Earth with water. Next time, it will be with fire.
God destroyed the earth (except for 8 people and a collection of animals) due to the wickedness of men. Genesis 6:5 ~

Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and
that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time.


6:7 So the LORD said, “I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—every
man and beast and crawling creature and bird of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.”
 

Nehemiah6

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This DNA altering injection reminds me of the nephilim in Genesis 6. Last time this happened, God destroyed the Earth with water. Next time, it will be with fire.
This is not even the worst news. They are creating monkey-human hybrids in the labs right now.
 

Magenta

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First, there are significant fears regarding the wide distribution of these new vaccines, which
employ a new technology and remain only experimental without full approval from the FDA.

[NOTE: FDA AND CDC ARE PART OF A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY]
Why would/do these vaccines need approval from a group you label as criminal conspirators? :unsure::oops:
 
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SophieT

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Eeeek! Thank God most of my friends are vaxxed now!
but of course, out of concern for those choosing not to offer themselves as experiments, you will never hang out with them because you don't want to cause them problems

honest to pete...:rolleyes:
 

EnglishChick

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but of course, out of concern for those choosing not to offer themselves as experiments, you will never hang out with them because you don't want to cause them problems

honest to pete...:rolleyes:
If they don't want to hang out with me because oh am vaxxed no problem. There is zoom and social media as a way for keeping contact.

I will let them decide if to hang out with me or not . Its their decision.
 

EnglishChick

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but of course, out of concern for those choosing not to offer themselves as experiments, you will never hang out with them because you don't want to cause them problems

honest to pete...:rolleyes:
I don't have many friends who aren't vaxxed, so its a not a problem
 

Nehemiah6

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Why would/do these vaccines need approval from a group you label as criminal conspirators? :unsure::oops:
That is a very good question, and deserves a detailed response. What I am posting is well documented, but there is a huge movement to suppress and discredit the truth by interested parties.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centre for Diseases Control (CDC) work hand-in-hand for the approval of drugs and vaccines. But they both became a part of a criminal conspiracy upon the release of Wuhan virus from China. The conspirators included the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), the virologists at the Wuhan lab working on bio-weapons (in conjunction with the Chinese military), FDA, CDC, NIH, NIAID, the Imperial College in England, WHO, as well as the manufacturers and patent holders for these non-vaccines. One should also include all the Leftist Western mainstream media (owned by a handful of billionaires) and directed to make daily and hourly reports on the bogus pandemic and fan the flames of mass hysteria. The media have done tremendous damage to everyone and should also be prosecuted.

Bill Gates and George Soros, as well as Fauci, Birx, Redfield, Hahn, and other top level public health officials were all in collusion, and the virus was to be used against the populations of the world so that ultimately these bogus vaccines would be promoted (raking in billions of dollars) with no regard to the risks. Indeed this was a part of the Great Reset meant to depopulate the world, and bring everyone under the control of the World Economic Forum and the UN Agenda 21 (all leading up to the reign of the Antichrist). So here is what happened:

1. The Wuhan virus was released back in September 2019, and China began a disinformation and propaganda campaign to protect itself and also create fear and panic worldwide. The name "Chinese virus" or "Wuhan virus" was quickly changed to COVID-19 to protect China, and all kinds of false research papers began to be published. China spread the false information that bats sold in the wet market were responsible for the spread of infection, knowing full well that their military had been working on a bioweapon. Fauci had provided at least 3.5 million dollars to the Wuhan lab for bio-weapon research, so he had no business being on Trump's Task Force (and now he is Biden's buddy).

2. Patents for some vaccines had already been obtained before the pandemic was created. Even a patent had been obtained for the artificially created virus. So there was a great deal of pre-planning before January 1, 2020.

3. A massive campaign to sabotage and smear proven treatments such as quinine, HCQ, the HCQ combo pack, Ivermectin, Zinc, Vitamin D was initiated in which even respected research institutes and medical journals participated. We do not know how much cash China poured into this, but the whole idea was to destroy and discredit these cheap and effective treatments and prevent access to them by the public. The goal was to make everyone dependent on bogus vaccines.

4. WHO promoted the use of the PCR test to create the panic by reporting "cases" for false positives (99% of the time). The PCR test was supposed to use a CT threshold of only 25 or less, but instead they deliberately used (and are still using) the threshold of 38-40 to claim that they have found "cases" of corona virus (when coronavirus does not even exist!). The Imperial College falsely projected millions of deaths, and those were the numbers bandied about by Fauci, Birx, and the media to scare the living daylights out of people. The man behind this was a fraud, but the college itself failed to fix the computer modeling program knowingly.

5. CDC and WHO changed the definition of a case, which is properly an actual person suffering from actual symptoms and being treated by a medical doctor. So anyone who presented a false positive PCR test was automatically called a "case". Therefore you had thousands of bogus cases being reported daily. But if you scratched off 99% of those "cases" you would have the true count. Nevertheless, all the reporting agencies and media went along with the fraud, and continue to do so.

6. CDC (and all public health agencies) decided to make all deaths into COVID deaths in order to inflate the numbers and cause fear and panic. Therefore CDC deliberately distorted how they would report the daily number of deaths, and told doctors to mark every death as a COVID death, even if the direct cause was something else (heart attack, poisoning, gun shot wounds, etc). The true number of deaths was only about 6% of the totals reported.

7. Once these bogus reports began to be published, it was a piece of cake to shut down all the Western countries with lockdowns, masking, distancing, obsessive wiping of hard surfaces, etc. Not a single one of these restrictive measures has been proven to work. And Sweden has proved that they were all unnecessary. Now Florida has finally had the guts to say they are totally back to normal. Schools were shut down when there was absolutely no risk to children. But above all churches were shut down since now the Leftist tyrants in charge could do whatever they pleased and no one would question them. Christians did not stand up against this tyranny and allowed the tyrants to interfere with the Lord's business for absolutely no reason.

8. President Trump was either a part of this conspiracy or he was a willing participant. Everyone on his task force was dedicated to destroying America, and these people even managed to get him to promote Operation Warp Speed. This gave BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to pharmaceutical companies to manufacture dangerous and harmful injections -- without proper testing -- and falsely call them "vaccines".

9. FDA was fully aware of this deception, therefore it approved the use of these bogus vaccines for "Emergency Use Only". But that did not prevent Fraudulent Fauci from creating a narrative whereby these "vaccines" would be for general use, and then second, third, fourth doses would be given to increase the income of Big Pharma. Now almost no one remembers that these "vaccines" have NOT been fully approved. But Fauci also had a conflict of interest in promoting the useless Remdesivir (which no one even hears about any longer).

Hundreds of thousands died for nothing since seniors were most at risk and (1) they were herded together into nursing homes to infect each other, (2) the effective remedies were withheld from them, and (3) respirators were used when they actually worked against the patients and killed them. So in effect MASS MURDER was at the heart of the conspiracy.

Now all the serious adverse effects of these vaccines -- including the deaths of young healthy people -- are being under-reported and also minimized, and only a very few countries have actually banned these killer vaccines. They are still being touted as the solution to the pandemic, when the conspirators know that they do absolutely nothing. Chances are Fauci was injected with saline solution, since recently the saline scam was exposed at one location. Hence CDCs directive to keep on masking and distancing EVEN AFTER BEING VACCINATED.

Because this is a criminal conspiracy, the German lawyer who won the case against Volkswagen's fraud regarding emissions is now preparing NUREMBERG 2. The charge is "Crimes Against Humanity" (just as it was for the Nazis). And all these conspirators will be charged and prosecuted. Some have already called for the arrest of Bill Gates, and perhaps his recent divorce is a reflection of what may happen in the future to both Bill and Melinda Gates. But Dr. Anthony Fauci is another Dr. Mengele, and he needs to be removed from office immediately. However since Fraudulent Biden is also a part of this conspiracy, this fraud will continue until the fraudsters are all locked up.
 
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where is your concern for those who be without the un-vacc if they come in close quarters with you? :cautious:

I find your attitude somewhat disturbing and I don't think you really undestand what is going on
 

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where is your concern for those who be without the un-vacc if they come in close quarters with you? :cautious:

I find your attitude somewhat disturbing and I don't think you really undestand what is going on
Like I said the people I interact with are vaxxed . If course I would have concern for them if they weren't vaxxed and if they didn't want to see me for a while I would understand that.

Disturbing how?

I have said I dont believe anyone should be forced to take the vax if don't want to. We are responsible for our own health.
 

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where is your concern for those who be without the un-vacc if they come in close quarters with you? :cautious:

I find your attitude somewhat disturbing and I don't think you really undestand what is going on
What's there to understand ?

I understand that the powers that be have used this crisis to become v power heavy and that many are being forced to take the vaccine.

I was one of those people

I understand it has potential side effects

Understand it uses aborted fetal tissue. I campaigned against them doing that btw


What i won't buy into is the tollowing:

That I am a second class believer due to taking it

That I m person ally reaponsible for the sin of abortion

That I'm under judgement by God


That I have taken the Mark of the Beast

that I am part of Babylon for taking it

that medicines are sorcery


Sorry but I trust that Jesus is able to keep us and that as a Christian i cannot be condemned
 

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This DNA altering injection reminds me of the nephilim in Genesis 6. Last time this happened, God destroyed the Earth with water. Next time, it will be with fire.
I'm looking forward to the reign of Messiah Jesus and the resurrection of the dead as promised repeatedly in scripture.
 
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SophieT

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What's there to understand ?

I understand that the powers that be have used this crisis to become v power heavy and that many are being forced to take the vaccine.

I was one of those people

I understand it has potential side effects

Understand it uses aborted fetal tissue. I campaigned against them doing that btw


What i won't buy into is the tollowing:

That I am a second class believer due to taking it

That I m person ally reaponsible for the sin of abortion

That I'm under judgement by God


That I have taken the Mark of the Beast

that I am part of Babylon for taking it

that medicines are sorcery


Sorry but I trust that Jesus is able to keep us and that as a Christian i cannot be condemned

Ummm...the op is not about you personally. It's about the entire world.

Not sure why you seem to believe anyone said any of those things to you. I certainly haven't. I won't respond to your posts anymore.

chill :rolleyes:
 
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SophieT

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one thing though English chick. I just found this on another thread:

well I will be mixing with whom I please, vaccinated or unvaccinated! It's time to start getting back to normal and end all this isolation . Most.of my friends are vaxxed but I don't intend to avoid the few which aren't just because some news article tells me to
yup. not concerned after all then. interesting. 2 very different responses. Just going to place you into the list of people I find either do not make sense, or, say whatever depending on who they are talking to. no worries :giggle:
 

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I'm looking forward to the reign of Messiah Jesus and the resurrection of the dead as promised repeatedly in scripture.
Amen! That is our focus!

We woby be the ones destroyed, vaccinated or
Ummm...the op is not about you personally. It's about the entire world.

Not sure why you seem to believe anyone said any of those things to you. I certainly haven't. I won't respond to your posts anymore.

chill :rolleyes:
YOu.haven't said those things but many Christians have said that to me as others

I think it's a bogus doctrine of demons tbh. That vaccines are "sorcery"

Also you didn't answer my.question as to why my.attitude is diaturbing? You want me to pick myself.away like a hermit so some people don't catch the vaccine shedding from me?

Whatever happened to people being responsible to themselves? I'm not taking on some other persons health anxiety...it's not my problem
 

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one thing though English chick. I just found this on another thread:



yup. not concerned after all then. interesting. 2 very different responses. Just going to place you into the list of people I find either do not make sense, or, say whatever depending on who they are talking to. no worries :giggle:

My opinion on both threads is the same

I intend to go on living my life in a way that's best for me. Others can don the same.

Individuals are responsible for themselves

Also I don't get why you are.taking this so personally?

C ant we just agree to disagree on this matter?
We are both sisters in Christ

I never said you were saying that vaccinated Christians are second class Christians but some others come close to implying it

Too many pastors these days preaching "itchy ears" doctrine about how vaccines are witchcraft etc. It's all just "useless geneaologies" really.