St. John Chrysostom's Easter Sermon
- Thread starter Simona1988
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
No I meant in the context you gave.
Eph 5
2And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
This is Jesus himself . " given himself for us" And he wasn't burned .
phil 4 18
But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
This isn't the same thing as you said?
When we die our bodies are not a sacrifice to God . They will be redeemed yes ( Rom 8 23 ) ' the adoption ' . But no ones flesh is smelling like mrryh when burned . No verse says this .
Eph 5
2And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
This is Jesus himself . " given himself for us" And he wasn't burned .
phil 4 18
But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
This isn't the same thing as you said?
When we die our bodies are not a sacrifice to God . They will be redeemed yes ( Rom 8 23 ) ' the adoption ' . But no ones flesh is smelling like mrryh when burned . No verse says this .
-
1
-
1
- Show all
K
Christ is Holy, no man is Holy. Chrysotom was no different than any other Christian. We are all level at the foot of the cross. But I understand now why you are so defensive. He was flawed, like the rest of us. And he was anti-Semitic. The Bible says if you hate your brother you are guilty of murder.
Your entire life is a sacrifice/an offering to God. A dead body which releases myrrh-like smell (like it is the case of St. John Chrysostom, but not only) is a proof that the Holy Spirit dwelled in that person during his lifetime.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive
,
Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive
,Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
Your entire life is a sacrifice/an offering to God. A dead body which releases myrrh-like smell (like it is the case of St. John Chrysostom, but not only) is a proof that the Holy Spirit dwelled in that person during his lifetime.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive,
Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive
,Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
Romans 12:1
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies as a living sacrifice holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.”
-
1
-
1
- Show all
throughfaith,
I am soooo dissapointed by you.
You asked me 'where did the Bible talked about the fragrance' and when I gave you the verses, you tell me this is not to be taken literal and that I have been hood winked? BY who? BY the very word of God? Your lack of integrity and honesty is very profound!
I am soooo dissapointed by you.
You asked me 'where did the Bible talked about the fragrance' and when I gave you the verses, you tell me this is not to be taken literal and that I have been hood winked? BY who? BY the very word of God? Your lack of integrity and honesty is very profound!
-
1
- Show all
Your entire life is a sacrifice/an offering to God. A dead body which releases myrrh-like smell (like it is the case of St. John Chrysostom, but not only) is a proof that the Holy Spirit dwelled in that person during his lifetime.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive,
Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
That person gave herself to Jesus Christ as an offering. The fragrance is the proof that God accepted the offering.
For example, the martyrs presented themselves as offerings to God. And their bodies and the whole place where they have been martyrized was filled by fragrance, by scent. Which is why they, the martyrs, were joyful and praising the Lord, instead of crying of terror (which, would be the normal thing to do when a bunch of lions attack and eat you alive
,Christians who don't live under persecution can sacrifice themselves in other ways.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
If there was a verse that said so I would believe it. Remember there are people that ' know ' they have been spoken to by an angel who have told them things contrary to the Gospel..An angel no less . I think an angel visitation trumps your scented body account.
Gal 1
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Just wondered if you ever read the following scripture:
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and IN THEE shall all families of the earth be blessed." Gen 12:3
Rom 11:25-28
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and IN THEE shall all families of the earth be blessed." Gen 12:3
Rom 11:25-28
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.