Feminism?

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#61
Down here in the south, where gentlemen treat ladies like ladies, feminists come out on the losing end of the deal. When a woman thinks it is offensive for a man to hold a door open for her or give her his seat at a crowded venue... the feminist loses out on what makes southern life good.

Feminism is like many other things - good in moderation, terrible in extreme.

Quote from a cartoon:
"So did they break through the glass ceiling?"
"I dunno, but it does feel like there are shards of glass all over the floor."
I live in California and I'm reading your comment and the first thing I'm thinking.. is that it's time for me to move to the south 🤭 lol! Not a whole lot of that going on where I live (perhaps this way of thinking has chased all that away 🤷‍♀️idk lol). It sometimes makes a single lady like myself think that chivalry is dead lol, but a last! I see that it's not! lol
 

GaryA

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#62
I live in California and I'm reading your comment and the first thing I'm thinking.. is that it's time for me to move to the south 🤭 lol! Not a whole lot of that going on where I live (perhaps this way of thinking has chased all that away 🤷‍♀️idk lol). It sometimes makes a single lady like myself think that chivalry is dead lol, but a last! I see that it's not! lol
"No darlin' - chivalry is not dead in the south..." ;)(y):cool:

In the south - 'chivalry' is a "badge of honor" (of sorts); albeit, what it really is - is - just the way we were raised... :D

:)
 
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Get rid of feminism, chauvinism and control and let the couple just love and respect one another.
 

Lanolin

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#64
feminism just seems to be the reaction to chauvinism

both are counter to each other and are never going to work.
 
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My grandmother is the strongest woman in my family, but we still had a very traditional family structure. No one needs the wrong person to take charge, but it didn't mean by grandmother wanted to 'replace' my grandfather or something
 

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A very good topic to raise!

I urge women (and men) to not follow this unhealthy and unbiblical agenda.

Feminism was sold as a good thing, liberating women from oppression - I don't know if women were really opressed as I wasn't there at the time. But if they were that's a great thing to be freed and equal as a 'citizen'. I don't like that term 'citizen' but that's a whole other topic!

Anyway it's clear now that Feminism has become a Satanic agenda to destroy and divide families.

Evident by the fact society has been set up in such a way that now women don't need men for anything. I'm not saying women shouldn't have freedom to choose her life at all.

NB: I am of course generalising here, what I am saying is particularly problemetic in the secular world, bear with me as I explain.

Western sociatal systems eradicates the need for a woman to be virtuous, these include:

-Courts e.g (false) rape accusations and family courts

-Welfare system

-Radical liberal progressivism aka SJWs that promote unhealthy slogans such as 'being overweight is beautiful'

- Black lives matters and LGBT oppressive activism
(there is nothing 'wrong' with being in this group and I'm never judging anyone) the problem is forcing the agendas for political power, government gain and promoting themselves as more 'inclusive society' is actually detrimental to such minorities.

A trans person I know literally said, "I wish activists would shut up about trans, I want to live my life and not have any special sympathy or handouts, I'm just as equal as any other human."

Many black people too do not want this movement any more, it does the opposite of what it says.

Satan wants division in society especially in work, family, marriage and schools. It is an intentional plan from the enemy as divided families are ungoldy AND make money for the courts and major corporations. Satan and his powers that be don't want strong family units.

I am NOT suggesting that women be in some oppressive household without a job and just answering to her master. That is abusive. It is Biblical that a woman is to submit to her husband, and a man is to submit to God. Feminism wants nothing to do with this instruction and natural order of how we are meant to be.

Think of the story of Ruth. She was a virtuous woman, her ways were very pleasing to God's eyes.

She worked hard and her efforts were paid off in the end was rescued by Boaz who married her.

In Biblical times it was hard to be a woman, yes. On the contrary nowadays it is so hard for a woman to demonstrate virtue. Particularly when these feminist systems are there to fall back on, it discourages women to do the right thing.

In other words, Feminism is the ultimate lazy and approval dependent approach, nowadays it rejects God's intentions.

It may have been a positive movement when it first started, but it does the opposite of what it sells. It's enslavement and not giving freedom and peace that God intended for our relationships and family life.
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Have you heard of the Hegilian Dialectic?

It's when the powers that be cause two opposing sides to HATE each other.

THEN they come to the rescue with a "solution"when in reality they gain control or benefit some way over the conflict.

This is not only done with feminism but with democrat vs rebuplican and race wars.

It is also a method used to promote ATHEISM and NEW AGE:


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In summary, feminism is the ultimate tool to blame others for your problems. Every feminist I have met lacks accountability for their actions. And it's sad that more and more people are getting sucked into this because it's a fashion thing now. It's awful because it's so upside down and hateful.

Don't give into to peer pressure, pray and read the Bible on such subjects.

Years ago I used to stick up for women who I thought were being oppressed but I stopped doing that the Holy Spirit showed me all these truths.

There is no honour in a man enabling this behaviour with other women either, that's like an AHAB thing to do. He allowed a woman to rule over him, she was the ultimate feminist! Jezebel!

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#67
Real feminism is doing your best to walk the path God sets before YOU, and not what others tell what you should and shouldn't do.

I stay clear of the modern ideals of feminism, as its rubbish.
 

Lanolin

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#68
i was learning some more chinese characters, and came across the character for 'feminist' which literally means 'strong woman' while the character for 'chauvinist' is 'strong man'

In the Bible, Jesus wanted to cast out the 'strong man' by binding him up first.
as for the strong woman, the only mention I can think of is the Proverbs 31st woman who is clothed in strength and dignity.

Jezebel was not actually strong she actually used Ahab to her advantage by seducing him.
Ruth was kind of strong since she did worked in the fields, though she was initially poor too being a widow.
The interestig thing is her mother in law wanted her to go after Boaz. I dont know if that makes her 'feminist' but it does seem that some men frown upon a woman being too forward, and label that woman a 'hussy'.

I think any woman who puts herself first runs risk of ire, womans roles seem like a forever endless waiting.
waiting for a man to make the first move. But the thing is, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.
when there is no man around.
Im thinking of eldest daughters, esp sisters who have no brothers here. My sister was doing everything first because she was the eldest! My brothers were born after me, I dont think she was going to wait around for them to be born to be the first in the family to do stuff.

note that Ruth had lost her husband AND father in law.
 

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#69
Rights to an equal wage is biblical. Jesus said the worker is worth their hire.

protection from abuse also Biblical.

women and men both being given dignity as human beings made in God's image? Biblical

Abortion? Nope. That's where I draw the line
 

EnglishChick

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#70
A very good topic to raise!

I urge women (and men) to not follow this unhealthy and unbiblical agenda.

Feminism was sold as a good thing, liberating women from oppression - I don't know if women were really opressed as I wasn't there at the time. But if they were that's a great thing to be freed and equal as a 'citizen'. I don't like that term 'citizen' but that's a whole other topic!

Anyway it's clear now that Feminism has become a Satanic agenda to destroy and divide families.

Evident by the fact society has been set up in such a way that now women don't need men for anything. I'm not saying women shouldn't have freedom to choose her life at all.

NB: I am of course generalising here, what I am saying is particularly problemetic in the secular world, bear with me as I explain.

Western sociatal systems eradicates the need for a woman to be virtuous, these include:

-Courts e.g (false) rape accusations and family courts

-Welfare system

-Radical liberal progressivism aka SJWs that promote unhealthy slogans such as 'being overweight is beautiful'

- Black lives matters and LGBT oppressive activism
(there is nothing 'wrong' with being in this group and I'm never judging anyone) the problem is forcing the agendas for political power, government gain and promoting themselves as more 'inclusive society' is actually detrimental to such minorities.

A trans person I know literally said, "I wish activists would shut up about trans, I want to live my life and not have any special sympathy or handouts, I'm just as equal as any other human."

Many black people too do not want this movement any more, it does the opposite of what it says.

Satan wants division in society especially in work, family, marriage and schools. It is an intentional plan from the enemy as divided families are ungoldy AND make money for the courts and major corporations. Satan and his powers that be don't want strong family units.

I am NOT suggesting that women be in some oppressive household without a job and just answering to her master. That is abusive. It is Biblical that a woman is to submit to her husband, and a man is to submit to God. Feminism wants nothing to do with this instruction and natural order of how we are meant to be.

Think of the story of Ruth. She was a virtuous woman, her ways were very pleasing to God's eyes.

She worked hard and her efforts were paid off in the end was rescued by Boaz who married her.

In Biblical times it was hard to be a woman, yes. On the contrary nowadays it is so hard for a woman to demonstrate virtue. Particularly when these feminist systems are there to fall back on, it discourages women to do the right thing.

In other words, Feminism is the ultimate lazy and approval dependent approach, nowadays it rejects God's intentions.

It may have been a positive movement when it first started, but it does the opposite of what it sells. It's enslavement and not giving freedom and peace that God intended for our relationships and family life.
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Have you heard of the Hegilian Dialectic?

It's when the powers that be cause two opposing sides to HATE each other.

THEN they come to the rescue with a "solution"when in reality they gain control or benefit some way over the conflict.

This is not only done with feminism but with democrat vs rebuplican and race wars.

It is also a method used to promote ATHEISM and NEW AGE:


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In summary, feminism is the ultimate tool to blame others for your problems. Every feminist I have met lacks accountability for their actions. And it's sad that more and more people are getting sucked into this because it's a fashion thing now. It's awful because it's so upside down and hateful.

Don't give into to peer pressure, pray and read the Bible on such subjects.

Years ago I used to stick up for women who I thought were being oppressed but I stopped doing that the Holy Spirit showed me all these truths.

There is no honour in a man enabling this behaviour with other women either, that's like an AHAB thing to do. He allowed a woman to rule over him, she was the ultimate feminist! Jezebel!

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Exaclty, being a virtuous woman is about character. God has an individual plan for each woman

Not about whether married or single, mother or childless or childfree.

Not about whether a career woman or a homesteader.

Not about Whether she has a secular job, is a nun, or a stay at home homeschooler

Not about whether she likes skirts and jewellery or make up, or whether she prefers a more modest look with as headcovering in church

Not about if she prefers 20 cats or 20 children or neither of those

It's about character...
 

Lanolin

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#71
I have had both jobs...worked in a cattery once
and also work in a school. Both had more than 20 cats/children at a time.

I remember going out with a guy who wanted to be TOLD what to do. I am like I am not your mother!
another kept saying 'your the boss'

I dont know why those guys were so quick to abidcate any of own responsibilities for their actions.

Its one thing lead, its another thing to be bossed around!

anyway. I think a healthy balance and respect between sexes is in order...and a virtuous woman does not necessarily need to be rescued ...from what? ....more that she is rewarded for her faithfulness.
 

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Im happy if a man just wants to treat me as a person. I dont need a label put on it.
 

EnglishChick

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I have had both jobs...worked in a cattery once
and also work in a school. Both had more than 20 cats/children at a time.

I remember going out with a guy who wanted to be TOLD what to do. I am like I am not your mother!
another kept saying 'your the boss'

I dont know why those guys were so quick to abidcate any of own responsibilities for their actions.

Its one thing lead, its another thing to be bossed around!

anyway. I think a healthy balance and respect between sexes is in order...and a virtuous woman does not necessarily need to be rescued ...from what? ....more that she is rewarded for her faithfulness.

That would have freaked me out! I don't want to be the one making all the decisions . Taking the lead. That's not who I am.
 

Lanolin

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I saw a new book in the bookshop called

50 years of feminism (about the life of some feminist I hadnt heard of)

I said to my boss, where's the book on 2000 years of chauvinism? lol

There is actually a bookshop in my town called 'the womens bookshop' when back in the day, that only males were getting published and women werent allowed to read books as it. might take away from the housework duties

If I recall the Bronte sisters had to go by male pen names. althougn Jane austen didnt seem to have much problem getting published maybe cos she was well off.
 

Lanolin

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sorry its '50 years a Feminist' by Sue Kedgley

well 50 years ago half the men had died in the wars so, women were left to run the country by themselves.
 

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I belive Rush Limbaugh refered to them as feminazi. Equating them to another arm of the sjw crowd.
 

Lanolin

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#78
well anybody can be a tyrant if power goes to their head. doesnt mean women are less capable of leading. Or that all women are tyrants if they do.

men can be tyrants too. In fact the only 'leader' that was male that wasnt aggrandizing himself in history that everyone knows about was Jesus Christ, and people wanted him, expected him to be King but He didnt take the title on earth. Satan offered him all the kingdoms of this world. Jesus refused.

what man in his position wouldnt take it. I think few men would resist, actually. A lot of women would refuse, many are actually not that power hungry.

Autonomy is a good thing though, I think people value it rather than everyone become slaves of each other.
 

Lanolin

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just to add
Jane austen had to publish anonymously. When her works were first published, they were said to be written by 'a lady'
if you havent read them, give them a go, they are classic works and often about the marriage market in regency england and how hypocritical it was. Most of her novels are satires. Jane herself never married.

She was engaged at some point but her suitor ditched her cos she was too poor, he found someone else richer.
 

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What social media today portrays feminism to be today is a joke. Maybe there's a whole huge community of really great, mentally stable people out there who actually make up the majority of feminists, IDK. Doesn't really come up in conversation. All I know is that every person that I've ever met who has flaunted their identity as a feminist has some sort of mental problem and is either a homosexual, a narcissist, or a soy boy.