The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit resurrected Jesus

You've evaded my questions about the Trinity. I don't know that you are denying the Trinity or not. I've asked you at least twice I think and you just change the subject or try to gas light me into thinking that John 2:19 isn't Jesus saying He'll resurrect Himself.

Romans 10:9 doesn't say "the Father." It says God. So you were wrong there. God is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Just giving you a chance to represent yourself here.

Curious, what denomination do you belong to?

He acknowledges the Father and Son and Holy Ghost in his posts

The test for belief and for liar and denier are here in these

1John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist,
that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Addressing all, Lets quit beating around the bush ... ok.

let's put to the test the incorrect theory of a three person Godhead. for if it's true, the truth will stand.

scripture, Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
NOW, my question is this, who "WITH" God MADE man. I'm not asking who else was present, but "WHO is the US" that made man......... listen to my question, "Who is the "US", US, US, that made man. now you can used titles, Father, son and holy Ghost, or you can use names, as Jehovah or Yehaw. the bible said let "US", so was it more than one person who made man? who was the two or more that "MADE", man. anyone can answer.

PICJAG, 101G.

Thats in Genesis 11:7 too

Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

First, thanks for the reply, second, to quickly answer your question, and the scripture all at once, just go back a couple of verses and one will have their answer. listen,

Genesis 11:5 "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded." (THERE IS YOU'R ANSWER, IS NOT VERSE 5 BEFORE VERSE 7, the LORD has already come down)... (smile), I'll explain later.
Genesis 11:6 "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."
Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."
Genesis 11:8 "So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city."

did you see those few words in verse 17, "Go to, let us go down". this is prophecy that is to come also. listen, here God confound the Language of the prople as well as scattered them abroad. now the future reference, (prophecy),the Book of Acts.

Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place."
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting."
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them."
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 2:5 "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven."
Acts 2:6 "Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language."

see 4ChristAlone, in hermeneutic this is called a Far, and near application. what God did in Genesis 11, he corrected in Acts 2. what was confounded in Genesis 11, by the LORD, is now in clarity, and comfort in Act chapter 2 by the Lord..... did you see I used the Titles, LORD, all cap in Genesis 11, and Lord in Acts 2...... (smile), that the the US in Genesis 1:26, but understand the Lord was not at Genesis 1:26. but did not Genesis 1:26 say "LET, LET, LET, US. there's that LET just as in Geneis 11...... this is good teaching in the making.

so, my question still stands.... "Who is the US in Genesis 1:26, that MADE man?"

PICJAG, 101G.

Jesus is God the Son, second person of the Trinity. My signature even proves Jesus is God.



I'm not wrong. Sometimes "God the Father" is shortened to just God.



Protestant.

Ephes 3:9

Ephesians 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"

Glad you used that scripture so that we can put to rest once and for all this "BY" term..... 4ChristAlone, are you ready for the revelation of "BY?". now I'm going to answer and then explain. "BY", Jesus christ, let see if Jesus the christ was even at Genesis 1:26. scripture, while speaking to the Pharisees concerning divorcement, our Lord Jesus the Christ said this, listen, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
Uh O, the person whom you just said God made all thing "by" he just said that, no, "he" GOD, made them, in reference to Genesis 1:27 right after Genesis 1:26, listen,Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." HOW MANY IS "HIS", and "HE", a single person desigination.

well 4ChristAlone, Jesus the Christ said "he", GOD, made them, and I hope you believe the Lord Jesus, because he do not "LIE".

so what you said don't hold water, or unless you want to count the Lord Jesus with the LYING Sinners? I thought you didn't. NOW THE ANSWER.

Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
did you see that "by" myself.... by, by, by.... myself? the LORD is JESUS, Spirit without flesh, title Father. now listen, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." BINGO, JESUS is the LORD in flesh better known as the Son, the Lord. listen,

#1. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

WHO MADE, MADE, MADE, ALL THINGS? THE "LORD", now John 1:3 "All things were made by him", meaning the Son.

same one person. see 4ChristAlone, God is the Christ without flesh, without bone, and without blood at Genesis 1:26.... the Spirit, the HOLY SPIRIT.... oh this is so easy. see in Isaiah 44:24 God, the LORD, JESUS, said "I was alone, and by, by, by, himself", right there it eliminated any other ..... 2nd. or 3rd. "person". BINGO.

now we suggest you re-read this post for clarity. and since I'm about edification of the saints, we will make it clear, JESUS, who is God is an ECHAD of his OWN-SELF, (per Isaiah 63:5, and revealed in Isaiah chapter 53). and this ECHAD is Expressed in the Ordinal First, as LORD, Father, and Ordinal Last, as Lord, Son. better know as the First and the Last. same one person.

did you see how I expressed the ECHAD of God as I did in the Last post conering Genesis 11, LORD, and Acts 2 Lord. this is too easy.

so 4ChristAlone, by the Lord Jesus himself, who cannot lie, just reproved you, and your statement, that God "BY" Jesus christ, is JESUS, who is God, (per John 1:1c), is an ECHAD of himself in Flesh, (per Phil. 2:6). that's why the Lord Jesus said "he" in reference to his OWN-SELF, as the Ordinal First, the LORD, the Father, who made man, just as the Spciptures in the very next verse said, "So God created man in his own image", and his is ONE person.

now the revelation scripture, to sume it all up. as was in Genesis 11, that which is to COME, listen, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

BINGO, there it is, "TO COME", is the FIGURE, which is his OWN, PERSON, meaning his OWN "IMAGE", a man, God in Flesh. which certifies John 1:14.... (smile), the Word, GOD, made flesh. now if you have any questions, just ask... ok

but remember, JESUS the Christ was not at Genesis 1:1 nor at Genesis 1:26 in the making of Man, but JESUS was..... (smile).

be blessed,

PICJAG, 101G.

Do you have a sincere question because you feel you do not know something, or do you feel like you know something but are asking questions to feel out what others know and want to teach them?

Your style is difficult for me to read

first, than ks for the response. but if my ...... style, as you say is difficult for you to read, maybe you might need to look up the words I use or re-examine the scriptures I use.

well let me be as clear as I can.... "God who is Jesus, is ONE person, that is the ECHAD of himself in flesh. how about that?

now, neither am I asking anything, nor do I declar that I know all things.

and as i said, if you have any questions, just ask. I'm about clarity, but I have notice a lot when one come incontact with the truth for the first time is seems difficult to understand.

I'm a Diversified Oneness, not a Oneness as the UPC, and some other teach, but "Diversified Oneness:. maybe that's the difficulty you are having,

PICJAG, 101G.

Hi Runningman,

I would also include the following to your list:

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

what many Christians are missing is that God, Jesus is an ECHAD of himself in flesh, for it is his, God, the Holy Spirit blood that was given,
scripture, Acts 20:28 "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood."

PICJAG, 101G

Okay, thanks no questions here.

Unwatching thread need to move on

Hello 101G,

How do you interpret the following:

"The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness"

"Come, let Us go down and confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech.”

"Then the LORD rained down sulfur and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens"

"And He (the Lamb) came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One (God the Father) seated on the throne."

Just food for thought .....

The scriptures support God existing as three distinct persons.

When Jesus came up out of the water, the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove. Then from heaven a voice came saying "This is My Son whom I love, with Him I am well pleased."

So, in the scripture above, you have all three persons of the Godhead at the same time. God as three distinct persons who make up the Godhead.

In Revelation, you have the Lamb/Jesus waling up and taking the scroll from the right hand of Him who is sitting on the throne, which would be God the Father. This would also demonstrate the individual persons of God the Father and Jesus Christ. That is, unless you think that Jesus is walking up and taking the scroll from His own hand?

GINOLJC, to all.
first thanks for the reply. no need for any private interpretation. (2 Peter 1:20). let the bible do it's own interpretation
A. First thing, it is the "LORD", all caps that said to the "Lord" sit at my right. this is clearly the ECHAD of God 1. LORD, (Spirit, Father), 2. the diversified spirit, Lord, in (Flesh, Son), the SAME ONE PERSON Diversified. how do we know this, the answer lay within the same nunber Psalms, listen, Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."
the same "Lord" at his right is the LORD, who is God, for the Hebrew word for "Lord", who is at his right is,
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113

did you see definition #2. BINGO, see Ahwatukee, the "LORD", all caps, is the "Lord" equally shared in Flesh, the Same one person only in a diversified stated, of an ECHAD.

Now B. "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness". well that's same Echad in Psalms 110, and here, only in TIME, PLACE, RANK, and ORDER. lets put and end to this misunderstanding. listen, you believe the Lord Jesus right... right... I hope so, because the Lord Jesus don't lie correct. well listen to what he said in Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," HOLD IT, the Lord Jesus who cannot lie said, WHAT!, "he", a single person made man male and female, well the Lord Jesus put an end to that nonesense of two or more making man at Genesis 1:26. but the bible is CLEAR, Jesus the Ordinal First "LORD", made man male and female, yes, Jesus the Ordinal First. understand, Jesus the Christ the Ordinal Last was not at Genesis 1:26, but Jesus was.... (smile).

C. you missed your own answer in verse 5, listen, Genesis 11:5 "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded." (BINGO, the LORD had already come down, now lets continue).
Genesis 11:6 "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."
Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."
Genesis 11:8 "So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city."

notice verse 7, "Go to, let us go down," the same "LET US" in Genesis 1:26... but notice the "Go to", this is prophecy. meaning in hermeneutics, a near and far application of events. near, NOW at Genesis 11, God, the "LORD" came down and confound their language, and scattered them. FAR APPLICATION, Acts chapter 2, the same thing but in comfort, or tranquility listen, Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place."
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting."
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them."
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 2:5 "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven."
Acts 2:6 "Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language."
Acts 2:7 "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?"
Acts 2:8 "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"

now the hermeneutical application of the "LORD", and the "Lord".
in Genesis 11, the same "LORD" , of Psalms 110, GOD, Spirit, (Father), the Ordinal First, confounded, and scattered the people. now, the same "Lord", of Psalms 110, GOD, spirit, (Son), the Ordinal Last, restored the language, as one in all could understand, and gather all under heaven in one place.

understand the application now?, the "LORD", NEAR, the "Lord" FAR, lets prove it by the bible, 1 Peter 1:19 "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:"
1 Peter 1:20 "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," BINGO.
justr as he, the Son, the Ordinal Last was not at Genesis 1:26 nor at Genesis 1:1 .... but was to come, or is MANIFESTED in these "LAST" times.... oh how easy this is, when you know by the best, the Holy Ghost.
see above.
now get this, "he who sits is he who stands and take the BOOK" ... (smile), the same one person, only diversified in flesh and bone. now to prove my point, it was Jesus the Christ, the Son who sits on the throne, as in Psalms 110:1

all the question you asked is in the ECHAD, of the diversity of God as the equal share of himself in flesh that was to come.
if you have any more questions just ask...

PICJAG, 101G.

All that you are doing, is what many do in regards to every Biblical subject, which is to circumvent or distort the truth that is presented to you.

My point in all of this, is to demonstrate the individual persons of the Godhead. If you have 'the Lord' raining fire and sulfur from 'the Lord out of heaven' then you have them both as God, but individual persons. Regarding the three persons who visited Abraham prior to destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, two were angels and the other was the Lord, which was Jesus Christ pre-incarnate.

In the other example, you have Jesus referred to as 'the Lamb' walking up and taking the scroll out of the right hand of the One sitting on the throne, which could be none other than God the Father. Jesus certainly wasn't taking the scroll out of His own hand. The fact that we have scripture after scripture where Jesus is praying to the Father demonstrates individual persons of the God-head.

The reference to 'The LORD our God, the LORD is One' is in reference to the other persons of the God-head. You wouldn't need to make that announcement if there was only one person in the God-head.

We have God the Father addressing the Son as an individual person of the God-head in the following scripture:

"But about the Son He (God the Father) says:

“Your throne, O God (the Son), endures forever and ever,

and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

You have loved righteousness

and hated wickedness;

therefore God, Your God, has anointed You

above Your companions with the oil of joy"

Then we have God the Father speaking of His Son as the One who created the heavens and the earth:

"In the beginning, O Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed; but You remain the same,
and Your years will never end.”

These demonstrate that God the Father is addressing His Son as an individual person, as also being God.

When Jesus told the Jews "I and my Father are One," they picked up stones to stone Him. Jesus said, "I have done many good works from the Father, for which of these do you stone Me?" The Jews said, "we are not stoning you for any of these, but because you a mere man claim to be God."

Jesus is God, but not God the Father.

Jesus is God, but not the Holy Spirit.

"But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate (Holy Spirit) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you."

Jesus goes back to heaven and sends the Advocate, which is the Holy Spirit. This again demonstrates that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God, but yet individual persons of the God-Head.

so e can take this as you cannot rebut anything I have said.

see all excuse, and no scripture.
see, you argue from Ignorance. now let us prove it to you, if it's the Father who sits on the throne, then answer us this, Revelation 4:10 "The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,"
Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

now tell us Ahwatukee, "Who Gave the Father POWER?" book chapter and vers please? remember only one sits on the throne, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

so Ahwatukee, tells us who have power to Give to the Father, who suppode to have ALL POWER?. name please

now when you answer, if you can, then I, by the bible, will show you how he that sits on the throne is the same one who stands and take the book... now your answer please.

PICJAG, 101G