Comfort one another with these words .

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throughfaith

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let's discuss all what we have now in Christ , how we are blessed with all spiritual blessings and what we have to look forward to .
Starting with Rom 8.23 looking forward to the redemption of the body and being with Jesus .1 John 3.2
Feel free to add to this ....
 

throughfaith

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#2
let's discuss all what we have now in Christ , how we are blessed with all spiritual blessings and what we have to look forward to .
Starting with Rom 8.23 looking forward to the redemption of the body and being with Jesus .1 John 3.2
Feel free to add to this ....
Let's comfort one another ....
 

Ahwatukee

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#3
let's discuss all what we have now in Christ , how we are blessed with all spiritual blessings and what we have to look forward to .
Starting with Rom 8.23 looking forward to the redemption of the body and being with Jesus .1 John 3.2
Feel free to add to this ....
Let not your hearts be troubled .....

"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be transformed."

"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words."

"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to everyone. It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Knowing that our being gathered to the Lord prior to when His wrath is poured out upon the earth is the blessed hope and why we can comfort each other with those words. For if we were to first go through the wrath of God and then be gathered after, then our hearts would surely be troubled, it would not be a blessed hope and we could not comfort each other with those words and that because the church would be suffering the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments right along with the wicked, which we are not appointed to suffer.

Therefore, comfort each other knowing that the appearing of the Lord to raise the dead and transform the living believers into their immortal and glorified bodies, is imminent. Let us have extra jars of oil overflowing as we watch for and anticipate the Lord's appearing. But be carful not to be turned from your faith and found living according to the sinful nature with your hearts weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, for then that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. For it (God's wrath) will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.
 

throughfaith

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Let not your hearts be troubled .....

"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be transformed."

"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words."

"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to everyone. It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Knowing that our being gathered to the Lord prior to when His wrath is poured out upon the earth is the blessed hope and why we can comfort each other with those words. For if we were to first go through the wrath of God and then be gathered after, then our hearts would surely be troubled, it would not be a blessed hope and we could not comfort each other with those words and that because the church would be suffering the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments right along with the wicked, which we are not appointed to suffer.

Therefore, comfort each other knowing that the appearing of the Lord to raise the dead and transform the living believers into their immortal and glorified bodies, is imminent. Let us have extra jars of oil overflowing as we watch for and anticipate the Lord's appearing. But be carful not to be turned from your faith and found living according to the sinful nature with your hearts weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, for then that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. For it (God's wrath) will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.
There's some comfort there i guess .
 

Ahwatukee

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There's some comfort there i guess .
Well, it certainly wouldn't be comforting if believers in Christ were to go through God's wrath first.

I brought this up, because being gathered prior to God's wrath, during or after is the on-going controversy.

One of the major errors for many, is not recognizing the difference between the trials and tribulations that Jesus said believers would have as a result of their faith vs. God's coming wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which must take place in between now and prior to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. It is this coming wrath of God that believers are not appointed to suffer.

Regarding this, Paul also said that 'While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.'

Then he says:

"But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief. For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness."

Those who will be saying "Peace and safety" will be unbelievers who are concerned with this life i.e. they are not looking for eternal life. The sudden destruction that will come upon them, will be the plagues of wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which will take place after the church has been gathered. Notice the contrast between the two: "they (unbelievers) will not escape. But you brothers are not in darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief." The words 'But you brothers' is in contrast to those upon whom sudden destruction will come, i.e. they will not escape, but you brothers will. And the way that they will escape, is by the Lord descending to the atmosphere to gather the dead and living believers to take them back to the Father's house, that where the Lord is we may be also.

Therefore we should comfort each other with these words, as we look forward to the blessed hope, the appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

By the time that the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments have completed, the majority of the earth population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled. What comfort would there be for believers if we were to go through the same wrath as unbelievers?
 

oyster67

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1 Corinthians
15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept.
15:21 For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead.
15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

God knows best how to prepare us for our glorious future. Just trust Him.