Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

Aidan1

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Or that is what the promoters of the bogus vaccines would have you believe. Almost all public health officials are lying about everything connected with Wuhan virus.

So kindly pay close attention to this article:

MODERNA CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER ADMITS MRNA ALTERS DNA
Suzanne Hamner

The Washington Standard

Several prominent physicians, doctors, Sons of Liberty Media Health and Wellness expert Kate Shemirani, her colleague Dr. Kevin Corbett, and I have postulated that the current experimental mRNA injection for coronavirus, aka COVID-19, could alter one’s genetic code or DNA. Bill Gates stated it, which was included in my video “Human Genome 8 and mRNA Vaccine” on Brighteon.com. It is one reason the term “experimental human genome altering mRNA injection” has been used to describe the jab being foisted onto the mostly unsuspecting public. While many in the media, Dr. Anthony Fauci and his merry band of chronic liars, and “fact checkers” have declared this claim as false, a video of a TEDx Beacon Street talk by Tal Zaks, chief medical officer of Moderna, Inc., one pharmaceutical company manufacturer of the experimental mRNA technology injection, confirms mRNA injection for COVID-19 can change your genetic code or DNA. This TEDx Beacon Street talk occurred in 2017. H/T to YouTube channel Silview Media Backup Channel.

Zaks calls it “hacking the software of life”. In the first minute of the video Zaks states, “we’ve been living this phenomenal digital scientific revolution, and I’m here today to tell you, that we are actually hacking the software of life, and that it’s changing the way we think about prevention and treatment of disease.” [Emphasis mine.] He even repeats that they (Moderna) think of it like an operating system, which the Moderna website indicates as “Our Operating System”.

At one minute in, Zaks states, “In every cell there’s this thing called messenger RNA or mRNA for short, that transmits the critical information from the DNA in our genes to the protein, which is really the stuff we’re all made out of. This is the critical information that determines what the cell will do. So we think about it as an operating system. …. So if you could actually change that, … if you could introduce a line of code, or change a line of code, it turns out, that has profound implications for everything, from the flu to cancer.” [Emphasis mine.]

When “changing” a line of code or “introducing” a line of code” (referring to DNA), the “code” or DNA is then altered, meaning the individual or “subject” has now had their genome changed to what the “scientists” have coded. The individual or subject is no longer a creation of God but a creation of man, meaning the individual or subject could be the object of a “patent”. He goes on to say, the mRNA would tell the cells to “code” for the protein of the “virus”. This “viral protein” is foreign to the body. The individual’s body is making a foreign protein the immune system is to attack. When the body makes a protein the immune system then attacks, your immune system is attacking a protein your body is making, meaning what is occurring in an “auto-immune response” or “auto-immune disease”.

This has been repeated a number of times by experts, physicians, nurses and countless others. As readers can see, none of us were “whistling Dixie”. Zaks talks about turning this system on; however, there is no way to turn it off. When do the cells know to stop making this “viral protein”? The cells don’t; therefore, this continues for the duration.

In a normal vaccine, the immune system attacks the limited amount of “particles” in the adjuvant to produce antibodies or immune response that the body can recognize at a later time if the individual comes in contact with the same or similar “particle”.

The study Zaks cites at the 3:12 minute mark can be found and read here. The abstract is contained on the NIH Pub Med Library website. In the full test of the study on ResearchGate, the mention of “Luciferase” occurs on page 10. A crucial piece of information in this study is contained on page 4 – “Ferrets immunized with 200 micrograms and challenged [exposed to influenza H7N9 via IN (intranasal)] on day 49 had viral loads below the level of detection”. If a viral load was “below the level of detection”, two questions emerge: 1) did the ferrets even contract H7N9 through intranasal challenge; and, 2) if a viral load is below the level of detection, how do you know the animals even had a viral load? This would bring into question the efficacy of the injection. Moreover, the studies Zaks cites as occurring in humans only lasted approximately 18 months.

At about the 4:00 minute mark, Zaks begins discussing mRNA vaccines for cancer. Immediately following that, Zaks discusses a children’s condition where a gene or “code” is missing that causes production of a certain enzyme critical for metabolism where the current treatment is to transplant an entire organ – in this case, the liver. Zaks proposes to inject mRNA that codes for the missing gene, a gene contained in DNA on the human genome, it would “correct” the genetic defect.

Ask this question: what causes the cells/body to produce needed enzymes/proteins? Zaks answers that by saying the genetic code or DNA. So, mRNA has to alter a genetic code or the DNA for the body to produce the proteins of COVID-19 for the body to mount an immune response.

Out of the words of Tal Zaks of Moderna, mRNA can alter the human genome. Whether by design or “unintended consequences”, this technology is being used to do just that. He calls this “information therapy”; although, some would call it “mad science”. In attempts to “rewrite” genetic code to correct defects, studies have shown there were “cascading failures”. In other words, changing one “defective gene” in one genome caused other genes to “fail” or cause problems. And, it was not just one subsequent gene becoming defective, but many. This is more than likely why there are over 400 adverse events surrounding the experimental mRNA injection.

So, the next time someone claims these “vaccines” do not alter the human genome or DNA, you can refer that individual to Tal Zaks of Moderna, Inc. who claims otherwise. Dr. Fauci should be eating some four and twenty blackbird (crow) pie.

Article posted with permission from Sons of Liberty Media
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=56522
You have to believe that this/ his Statement is true. What fear you have concerning this vaccine?
 

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You have to believe that this/ his Statement is true. What fear you have concerning this vaccine?
I have absolutely no fear about these vaccines since I have absolutely no intention of taking them. They are NOT vaccines, and even if they were, they are not necessary. I have refused to take flu vaccines consistently, and I have been just fine.

I am hoping that the case against Israel for crimes against humanity goes forward in the Hague, and exposes all these fraudsters and liars for who they are. Dr. Fauci is the modern day Dr. Mengele and should have been behind bars for many years (or hanged for mass murders).

New lawsuit alleges Israel’s gov’t is committing crimes against humanity in vaccination campaign
 

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I have absolutely no fear about these vaccines since I have absolutely no intention of taking them. They are NOT vaccines, and even if they were, they are not necessary. I have refused to take flu vaccines consistently, and I have been just fine.

I am hoping that the case against Israel for crimes against humanity goes forward in the Hague, and exposes all these fraudsters and liars for who they are. Dr. Fauci is the modern day Dr. Mengele and should have been behind bars for many years (or hanged for mass murders).

New lawsuit alleges Israel’s gov’t is committing crimes against humanity in vaccination campaign
I cant understand you. I work in a hospital, also with covid patients, i have collegues which are sick because of Covid 19. Covid is not to compare with flu. It is much worse, because it is not only infect your loung, its infect multi Organs. Not only people over 80, but also people under 50. The most people have no Symptoms ore easy Symptoms. But for people which have anyway other deseases too, its dangueres.
Maby you belong to those who will get no ore easy Symptomes, but you should think about those who will die ore be serious sick, so that they cant work anymore.
And you should consider about short ore long, almost everyone will be confronted with tge covid 19 virus.
 

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I cant understand you. I work in a hospital, also with covid patients, i have collegues which are sick because of Covid 19. Covid is not to compare with flu. It is much worse, because it is not only infect your loung, its infect multi Organs. Not only people over 80, but also people under 50. The most people have no Symptoms ore easy Symptoms. But for people which have anyway other deseases too, its dangueres.
Maby you belong to those who will get no ore easy Symptomes, but you should think about those who will die ore be serious sick, so that they cant work anymore.
And you should consider about short ore long, almost everyone will be confronted with tge covid 19 virus.
another personal take- in my opinion, we here in america have a public health crisis, and that is so much of the population is very unhealthy.

most of it from getting little to no exercise, eating crap food, drinking way too many soft drinks, not taking vitamins and minerals.

covid just exposed this situation that has been around for 25 + years.
 

Aidan1

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another personal take- in my opinion, we here in america have a public health crisis, and that is so much of the population is very unhealthy.

most of it from getting little to no exercise, eating crap food, drinking way too many soft drinks, not taking vitamins and minerals.

covid just exposed this situation that has been around for 25 + years.
Thank you for this Information, this is of course a reason why so many died ore healthproblems.
But is this a reason to see in the vaccine a devils thing?
 

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I cant understand you. I work in a hospital, also with covid patients, i have collegues which are sick because of Covid 19. Covid is not to compare with flu. It is much worse, because it is not only infect your loung, its infect multi Organs. Not only people over 80, but also people under 50. The most people have no Symptoms ore easy Symptoms. But for people which have anyway other deseases too, its dangueres.
Maby you belong to those who will get no ore easy Symptomes, but you should think about those who will die ore be serious sick, so that they cant work anymore.
And you should consider about short ore long, almost everyone will be confronted with tge covid 19 virus.
Take vaccines to protect death from coved.

The dilemma is
Some expert say Vaccines it self kill more than coved

So we have to consider make more research is mRNA follow all the safety procedure, like must test to animal etc?
If not, we have to ask why?
 

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Take vaccines to protect death from coved.

The dilemma is
Some expert say Vaccines it self kill more than coved

So we have to consider make more research is mRNA follow all the safety procedure, like must test to animal etc?
If not, we have to ask why?

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The suit further alleges that Israel’s national Ministry of Health has openly admitted that 41% of police, military, educational and medical personnel who were vaccinated “suffered severe side effects and life-endangering” complications. LifeSiteNews has been unable to verify whether the Israeli Health Ministry did indeed make a statement to this effect and have contacted those involved in the lawsuit to seek verification of this claim.

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I was able to schedule an appointment for the Pfyzer vaccine.
I am getting my first dosage on April 15

It turns out that because I interface with the public at our Church Food Pantry ministry I qualify for this round of front line workers.

Otherwise I would have to wait even longer.

So if anyone volunteers in a food pantry ministry you can schedule your vaccine.
 

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another personal take- in my opinion, we here in america have a public health crisis, and that is so much of the population is very unhealthy.

most of it from getting little to no exercise, eating crap food, drinking way too many soft drinks, not taking vitamins and minerals.

covid just exposed this situation that has been around for 25 + years.
I was reading science studies on supplements from Harvard Medical School and what I learned from that project was that if someone eats a variety of foods they will not need most supplements being pushed at them. Vitamin D, B12, Calcium and Fish Oil were the ones that the science has shown to be most commonly needed for those who don't eat the right variety of foods. Most of the other advertisements that come our way have no science behind them and some actually have science that says they can do us harm if we take too much of them accidently by combining supplements which many, many people are doing today because of misleading and false claims by "nutritionists"
 

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I was able to schedule an appointment for the Pfyzer vaccine.
I am getting my first dosage on April 15

It turns out that because I interface with the public at our Church Food Pantry ministry I qualify for this round of front line workers.

Otherwise I would have to wait even longer.

So if anyone volunteers in a food pantry ministry you can schedule your vaccine.
If you die by August (presuming you take the vaccine in April), will you admit that we were right and the vaccine is deadly?
 
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If you die by August (presuming you take the vaccine in April), will you admit that we were right and the vaccine is deadly?
That's funny! And if I die of corona, I will hereby admit that I guess it wouldn't have hurt me to take the vaccine. :p
 
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If you die by August (presuming you take the vaccine in April), will you admit that we were right and the vaccine is deadly?
LOL ... well if that happens I don't think I will be caring about these kinds of discussions. I will have left them all behind.


486 MILLION people have been vaccinated.
No one has died from a vaccine shot.
Nearly 3 Million have died from COVID world wide
No One who has been vaccinated has died from COVID. (HUGE SUCCESS)

I think the odds are in my favor.
 

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LOL ... well if that happens I don't think I will be caring about these kinds of discussions. I will have left them all behind.


486 MILLION people have been vaccinated.
No one has died from a vaccine shot.
Nearly 3 Million have died from COVID world wide
No One who has been vaccinated has died from COVID. (HUGE SUCCESS)

I think the odds are in my favor.
Never bet against the house - house always wins in the end.
 

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No one has died from a vaccine shot.
That is an unwarranted and unsubstantiated claim. The party line is that no one has died from a vaccine shot. If the truth were reported most people would refuse these bogus vaccines.

"126 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 22, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,216 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports.

[NOW HERE IS THE PARTY LINE]
A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS. "
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

This is like asking a convicted felon to provide "no evidence" that he has committed any felony. So he will provide a bogus report and everyone will be happy.

The CDC is at the heart of the COVID Conspiracy. They have been misleading the public daily for the past 12 months. But since you prefer the party line let the conspirators know that you back them 100%.

Furthermore the FDA has never given any mRNA *vaccine* full approval, and all the current injections are for EMERGENCY USE ONLY.
 
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That is an unwarranted and unsubstantiated claim. The party line is that no one has died from a vaccine shot. If the truth were reported most people would refuse these bogus vaccines.

"126 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 22, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,216 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports.

[NOW HERE IS THE PARTY LINE]
A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS. "
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

This is like asking a convicted felon to provide "no evidence" that he has committed any felony. So he will provide a bogus report and everyone will be happy.

The CDC is at the heart of the COVID Conspiracy. They have been misleading the public daily for the past 12 months. But since you prefer the party line let the conspirators know that you back them 100%.

Furthermore the FDA has never given any mRNA *vaccine* full approval, and all the current injections are for EMERGENCY USE ONLY.
Yes. I do believe that the CDC is trustworthy as well as the FDA. I don't believe that anyone has been killed by a vaccine allergic reaction yet but I expect someone will eventually. Probably someone who does not get an epipen quick enough. If it happens I don't think that it should be turned into a story about "carnage" but it probably will be.

I realize that there are conspiracy theorist who believe that the CDC and FDA is corrupt and that we don't have the capability to police them but I believe we do and that they both get better every few years and one day most people will abandon their conspiracy theories about these fine organizations and realize they are best in the world at what they do.
 

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Yes. I do believe that the CDC is trustworthy as well as the FDA. I don't believe that anyone has been killed by a vaccine allergic reaction yet but I expect someone will eventually. Probably someone who does not get an epipen quick enough. If it happens I don't think that it should be turned into a story about "carnage" but it probably will be.

I realize that there are conspiracy theorist who believe that the CDC and FDA is corrupt and that we don't have the capability to police them but I believe we do and that they both get better every few years and one day most people will abandon their conspiracy theories about these fine organizations and realize they are best in the world at what they do.

^ confirmed or probable covid related deaths.

that is the " trustworthy" c d c policy
 

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Yes. I do believe that the CDC is trustworthy as well as the FDA. I don't believe that anyone has been killed by a vaccine allergic reaction yet but I expect someone will eventually. Probably someone who does not get an epipen quick enough. If it happens I don't think that it should be turned into a story about "carnage" but it probably will be.
Why do you keep lying about this claim?

Myself, and others have posted dozens of accounts of healthy people dying within hours, to a couple of weeks of injecting the experimental gene therapy.