Signs that follow them that believeth.

Jesus His Pre-Eminence makes it clear here: But he that doeth the will of my father in heaven.

What is that?

This statement appears several times in Scripture. Each time "the will of God" differs to some extent.

omans 12:2 - And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Thessalonians 5:18 - In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 - For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

Jeremiah 29:11-13 - For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. (Read More...)

John 6:38-40 - For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. (Read More...)

Hebrews 13:20-21 - Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, (Read More...)

1 Peter 2:15 - For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

1 John 2:16-17 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (Read More...)

Ephesians 5:17 - Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord [is].

Matthew 7:21-23 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Read More...)

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

John 7:17 - If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

Proverbs 19:21 - [There are] many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.

Micah 6:8 - He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

James 4:15 - For that ye [ought] to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 - For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: (Read More...)

Matthew 6:10 - Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.

This statement appears several times in Scripture. Each time "the will of God" differs to some extent.

omans 12:2 - And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Thessalonians 5:18 - In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 - For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

Jeremiah 29:11-13 - For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. (Read More...)

John 6:38-40 - For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. (Read More...)

Hebrews 13:20-21 - Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, (Read More...)

1 Peter 2:15 - For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

1 John 2:16-17 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (Read More...)

Ephesians 5:17 - Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord [is].

Matthew 7:21-23 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Read More...)

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

John 7:17 - If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

Proverbs 19:21 - [There are] many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.

Micah 6:8 - He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

James 4:15 - For that ye [ought] to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 - For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: (Read More...)

Matthew 6:10 - Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.

I was not speaking of "the signs......." You asked what the will of God is.....that is what I was addressing

Can anyone explain this?

Through rightly dividing the word of truth. This is not a Christian doctrine. Signs were given to the apostles to give the Jews validity of the message they preached. The Jews require signs. We walk by faith not by sight.

It is written in Mark 16

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

This is what was written concerning the signs that follow them that believe. Yet in Matthew 7:21 it is written:

Matt 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

You will be able to see for yourself, that the signs that follow them that believe, is also the things that people who did not make heaven claimed they did.


How can this be explained?

It is obvious first of all that the people claiming to do those things, signs that prove belief,

1. knew they were talking to Jesus His Pre-Eminence.
2. really believed that they did those things, and believed in HIM.


Can anyone explain this?

Jesus His Pre-Eminence makes it clear here: But he that doeth the will of my father in heaven.

What is that?

It is written in Mark 16

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

This is what was written concerning the signs that follow them that believe. Yet in Matthew 7:21 it is written:

Matt 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

You will be able to see for yourself, that the signs that follow them that believe, is also the things that people who did not make heaven claimed they did.


How can this be explained?

It is obvious first of all that the people claiming to do those things, signs that prove belief,

1. knew they were talking to Jesus His Pre-Eminence.
2. really believed that they did those things, and believed in HIM.


Can anyone explain this?

Jesus His Pre-Eminence makes it clear here: But he that doeth the will of my father in heaven.

What is that?

So the question is, if they are the signs that follow them that believe, then they must have believed. So why are those same signs the things that they said they did, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence said, HE never knew them, begone, ye workers of iniquity?

Through rightly dividing the word of truth. This is not a Christian doctrine. Signs were given to the apostles to give the Jews validity of the message they preached. The Jews require signs. We walk by faith not by sight.

It is written in Mark 16

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

This is what was written concerning the signs that follow them that believe. Yet in Matthew 7:21 it is written:

Matt 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

You will be able to see for yourself, that the signs that follow them that believe, is also the things that people who did not make heaven claimed they did.


How can this be explained?

It is obvious first of all that the people claiming to do those things, signs that prove belief,

1. knew they were talking to Jesus His Pre-Eminence.
2. really believed that they did those things, and believed in HIM.


Can anyone explain this?

Jesus His Pre-Eminence makes it clear here: But he that doeth the will of my father in heaven.

What is that?

Oh? My reading of the book of Acts shows that the miracles of healing and deliverance from demons caused multitudes of non-Jewish pagans to turn to Christ and this was the cause of Christianizing the Roman Empire.

Also, reading the context of what Jesus was referring to as signs the Jews were looking for, it is obvious that He was not referring to His ministry of healing the sick and casting out of demons. The signs the Jews were looking for were quite different.

As Jesus couldn't do many mighty works in His home town, and was just able to heal a few sick people, it is the same in our churches. There is such a general attitude of unbelief and religious hypocrisy in modern churches, over all denominations, that Jesus, through the Person of the Holy Spirit, can't do much in the way of mighty works or widespread healing of the sick. What many people think walking in faith is actually walking in presumption.

In actual fact, in modern times, when a person has been genuinely healed of a terminal disease, his whole family, friends, and many of his community have turned to Christ as a result, because they are convinced that Jesus is real and alive.

Just quoting passages of the Bible doesn't prove that Jesus is real and alive. But when the Holy Spirit involves Himself with the Bible in the lives of people, then the reality of the living Jesus is revealed, drawing people to him in true conversion to Him.

Oh? My reading of the book of Acts shows that the miracles of healing and deliverance from demons caused multitudes of non-Jewish pagans to turn to Christ and this was the cause of Christianizing the Roman Empire.

Also, reading the context of what Jesus was referring to as signs the Jews were looking for, it is obvious that He was not referring to His ministry of healing the sick and casting out of demons. The signs the Jews were looking for were quite different.

As Jesus couldn't do many mighty works in His home town, and was just able to heal a few sick people, it is the same in our churches. There is such a general attitude of unbelief and religious hypocrisy in modern churches, over all denominations, that Jesus, through the Person of the Holy Spirit, can't do much in the way of mighty works or widespread healing of the sick. What many people think walking in faith is actually walking in presumption.

In actual fact, in modern times, when a person has been genuinely healed of a terminal disease, his whole family, friends, and many of his community have turned to Christ as a result, because they are convinced that Jesus is real and alive.

Just quoting passages of the Bible doesn't prove that Jesus is real and alive. But when the Holy Spirit involves Himself with the Bible in the lives of people, then the reality of the living Jesus is revealed, drawing people to him in true conversion to Him.

For to know that Jesus is real I heared the sermon of a youthpreacher. The Holy Spirit opens my understanding from my guilt. I needed no sign ore wonder.
Those signs and wonder, we find today not in the genuine church, but in the Mission situation. What bothers me, is that today people teach that signs and wonder belongs to an Christian life. Signs and wonder were there and still are there to show that Jesus is real Gods son and God himself. As a xhild of God I dont need signs and wonder for to proove that I am His child. They are still there gor to gloryfie Him and bring people into his family, according His will

You worship in Bethel or Word of Faith churches?

I agree. The purpose of signs and wonders has been the same all the while since the 1st Century. Jesus said, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel, AND these signs shall follow those who believe,,," etc. The two are Scripturally linked. Preaching the gospel and the signs and wonders following. We need the supernatural power of God, healing the sick and casting out demons just the same today, as was needed in the 1st Century. We see an enormous rise in the occult with its own supernatural components. This is replacing the power of the Holy Spirit that the churches have ignored for so long. When the genuine is rejected, the counterfeit gains the ascendancy.

Paul says that the real power of God is the gospel of Christ that leads sinners to salvation. When that is coupled with signs and wonders, as following the 1st Century Apostles and believers, we will see more neo-pagans and occult worshipers turning to Christ as they did in the 1st Century.

But as long as the power of the Holy Spirit is rejected by the unbelieving churches through laziness, neglect, and Cessationist teaching, we will see the preaching of the gospel defeated by the supernatural power of the occult and neo-pagan worship in our societies. If the sight of the signs and wonders in the 1st Century turned the pagan world to Christ, then the same signs and wonders will defeat the neo-paganism that is becoming a feature in our societies.

No. I belong to a small suburban Methodist/Presbyterian Union church, along with six elderly ladies and one other gentleman. I consider the extreme Word of Faith doctrine espoused by Kenny Copeland and others like him as pseuo-Christian cultish heresy, and I see the Bethel church as a pseudo-Charismatic cult that is embracing neo-pagan, occult practices.