Jesus Fully God and Fully man - Chalcedon

I think we are blessed to have such a rich history in Christian teaching, we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us.

I think we are blessed to have such a rich history in Christian teaching, we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us.

Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge
one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ,
at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood,
truly God and truly man,
consisting also of a reasonable soul and body;
of one substance with the Father as regards his Godhead,
and at the same time of one substance with us as regards his manhood;
like us in all respects, apart from sin;

as regards his Godhead, begotten of the Father before the ages,
but yet as regards his manhood begotten, for us men and for our salvation, of Mary the Virgin, the Godbearer;
one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten,
recognized in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation;
the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union,
but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence,
not as parted or separated into two persons,
but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ;
even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us,
and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us.

Really? I don't know of anyone that teaches the Truth . . . the actual Gospel of Jesus Christ. I mean it . . . not one person.

Really? I don't know of anyone that teaches the Truth . . . the actual Gospel of Jesus Christ. I mean it . . . not one person.

Wacky, fringe ideas abound in our day but that aside, perhaps your standards are too stringent?
Or you may be misjudging people?

To say there is not one teaching the truth is a bit extreme.

I would make the case that Calvinsim is a wacky fringe idea that took off after Augustine . And here we are accepting it today and calling it orthodox .

On the other hand your hyperdispensationalism, which is what, only 120 years since it was ever preached? That's probably the eternal truth, you think?

Lol

Or we could just get that from the bible and not give up our sense making to so called ' giants of the faith ,' I see people following the finger that points and not the thing the pointer is pointing to (if that makes sense lol) We have whole denominations reciting like a mantra propositional creeds , statements of faith ect with no clue how to arrive at conclusions themselves ,because there not taught how to approach the bible. 0nly that they must agree with what that church has always considered 'orthodox '. Like an Avatar they then parrot the system/ paradigm without question.

On the other hand your hyperdispensationalism, which is what, only 120 years since it was ever preached? That's probably the eternal truth, you think?

Lol

I think we are blessed to have such a rich history in Christian teaching, we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us.

Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge
one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ,
at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood,
truly God and truly man,
consisting also of a reasonable soul and body;
of one substance with the Father as regards his Godhead,
and at the same time of one substance with us as regards his manhood;
like us in all respects, apart from sin;

as regards his Godhead, begotten of the Father before the ages,
but yet as regards his manhood begotten, for us men and for our salvation, of Mary the Virgin, the Godbearer;
one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten,
recognized in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation;
the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union,
but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence,
not as parted or separated into two persons,
but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ;
even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us,
and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us.

I would make the case that Calvinsim is a wacky fringe idea that took off after Augustine . And here we are accepting it today and calling it orthodox .

On the other hand your hyperdispensationalism, which is what, only 120 years since it was ever preached? That's probably the eternal truth, you think?

Lol

Really? I don't know of anyone that teaches the Truth . . . the actual Gospel of Jesus Christ. I mean it . . . not one person.

Bingo, this type of dispensationalist nonsense is a perfect example of why we should study and understand according to what the ancient church believed, escatology is another.

Bingo, this type of dispensationalist nonsense is a perfect example of why we should study and understand according to what the ancient church believed, escatology is another.

So we should use the pagan church as a guide as to how we should interpret scripture?

Say it is not so

The jews tried this form of interpretation and it led them to crucify Christ.

Bingo, this type of dispensationalist nonsense is a perfect example of why we should study and understand according to what the ancient church believed, escatology is another.

It is not quite clear as to what you meant by "eschatology is another". If by "ancient church" you mean the Early Church Fathers, Christians should be fully aware that while they presented many good and excellent teachings, they also managed to insert some false teachings into their writings. As to eschatology, there was been more confusion than anything else. And while the Creeds and Confessions are widely accepted, our ultimate authority is the written Word of God -- the Holy Bible.