Was the Garden of Eden, literally Heaven on Earth? Was the Earth already fallen except for the Garden?

Infinity is a long time to expect souls to behave for. We will be connected to God again. If it is anything like quantum entanglement ..we will be virtual waves.

You skipped over my posts explaining this.

• The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

Does suggesting that the last Adam is the man God formed with a soul and put in the Garden ..somehow take something away from Jesus?

There is no explanation...other than you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyhow, I'm done admonishing you in this regard.

Dude, watch the video, it is what you preach.

I watched part of it last night.

Some of it I agreed with, and some of it I did not.

I'll probably watch the remainder of it later, just to see if I can glean any new truths from it.

I didn't watch enough of it to make this observation with certainty, but it seems that the guy teaching it is a Seventh Day Adventist.

IF he is, THEN I definitely disagree with a lot of their teachings, although they are correct about certain aspects of other things.

Anyhow, I doubt that anything in that video has anything to do with the anti-scriptural beliefs that you've been describing here.

In regard to those, you really do need to renounce them and embrace what the scriptures actually teach.

That's your choice.

I'm leaving this discussion for good unless somebody poses a direct question or response to me that I deem worthy of responding to.

According to the fossil record, homo sapiens, whose physical appearance is like that of modern humans, were around for nearly 200,000 years. In all that time, however, it isn't until circa 6,000 years ago when the Lord imbues His Spirt within man/Adam, that man is then enlightened and is no longer just as the rest of the animals.

How can you be against SDA and know that satan has authority of the papacy? WHAT???

And I don't get why you can't handle new ideas.

Like I said, SDA's teachings are correct about certain aspects of some things, but other of their teachings are totally false.

As far as your "new ideas" are concerned, if they don't align themselves properly with rightly-divided, Holy Ghost inspired scripture (and yours DON'T), then they are to be rejected as the doctrines of demons that they actually are.

Bye...

That's really interesting. But based on Genesis, I have to believe those beings were more animal-like... unless you think they were meant to be somewhere between the animals and man (Adam)? I've never read anything about that.

• For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

The whole creation became fallen?

What reveals that the story written in Genesis is not the best rendition of what happened, is in the character of the woman in the earth today. That a woman for fear of losing her figure, will be very selective in what she eats. She will not easily eat anything that can harm her body, or her image. It is written, that Mother Eve was told by her lord not to eat of a certain tree in the Garden for on the day they eat of it, they will surely die. Why would a woman, who loves her body (since you all think they were mortal anyway), eat something that can seriously affect her body? Is it that the woman did not have that character then but does now? Why was that tree called the knowledge of good and evil? Jesus His Pre-Eminence addressed this in the earth when HE said:

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

So what kind of tree was the one that caused the fall? A good tree or an evil tree?

Ye shall know them by their fruits... What was the cause of Man eating that fruit? The cause was that they would die. So why was it called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? If they did not eat of it, would they have died? How can you think that the body they had was mortal before the fall?

And GOD revealed to us the Law for Procreation: Except a seed falls to the ground and dies, it abides alone. But if the seed dies, it brings forth much fruit.

The reason why lucifer could do what he did, (and lucifer is not the serpent by the way), even not in a fallen nature as we are, is because lucifer is a tare. It takes alot of deep understanding to get to this height of Revelation, but when you begin to understand that Man is now in a fallen state, and that fallen state is why we cannot be perfect, why we cannot keep the Law (which is the body that is mortal), how the body has her own nature which is contrary to the Spirit, so you do that which you do not want to do. Then you will ask yourself, how is it possible that lucifer could even have evil thoughts toward somebody, but he is not in a fallen state? And you can see its true, because he has not been dying and dying like men have, but is alive... But it is written that sin leads to death, but lucifer is alive and still has his perfect body; that the problem with lucifer is not that he has the kind of body that can die, as we do, but that his spirit being is an unholy spirit, sent from the abyss. Then you will understand better, how sin led to death for us was pointing to migrating their physical body from immortal to mortal for a reason; for procreation to become possible.

And you will also ask yourself: How can man sin against GOD if he is not in a fallen state to sin against GOD?

Those who laugh at this matter, do not take kingdom matters seriously; if they are even children of the kingdom at all, they are exactly that; childish and are not ready for meat. For my GOD revealed to us that there are wheats and tares in the earth, and they have been disguising themselves as wheat, but the time will come when they shall be bundled into the fire as chaff, and separated from the wheat. The time for mocking the fathers of the Mankind Race is at an end, the blasphemed are being redeemed. Father Adam is not a weakling, in fact he set the altar for the alteration (the cross) of the celestial body to the mortal body by eating from the trees in the garden of Eden, which pre-set the functions and abilities of the mortal body; so that man could still function in their fallen state. Then look at how Noah had to couple an ARK made from a Gopher tree. That the ARK he coupled would be able to stand against the flood that will wipeout every living thing. How was that ARK? How did it look? What kind of a tree could couple an ARK like that? The ARK is the unsinkable Titanic.

GOD speaks in Parables, so that them hearing with not understand. His command to not eat of a certain tree, was a parable, which the Serpent did not understand, and that manifested her evil intentions toward man, which exposed her as a tare.. But Adam, who is the father of the Prophets, greater than any Prophet as he was not born of a woman, knew the plan of salvation in its details, knowing that man must migrate from immortality into a mortal state to also be housed by a terrestrial planet, to procreate so that his children who are in the fathers Bosom, Spirit Children without physical body, can have a physical body as well. And only the Son of GOD could do that; could father an entire race.

And thus came to pass the saying:

I was baptized into his death, when he died i died.

Why? Because being sent into a mortal body to be born of water in this earth is being baptized into his death; the kind of body that over time ages, depreciates, wrinkles, spots, and dies and nothing can change that except revelations from GOD, which are Spiritual and life giving. That was when Man was baptized by water, when he was born of his biological mother's womb. But the bride that the GOD is returning for, is a bride prepared for HIM without spots, blemishes or wrinkles.. Selah. For who baptised John in the River Jordan if he is the Baptist? Is it that he does not need to be baptised as well? Selah

Samson is not a womaniser, he is a Patriarch of the kingdom, who stepped in the shoes of the Son of GOD to reveal to us what happened in the garden of Eden that was not written. His story is the fall of Man, which is why there is three states of Samson: Samson before his hair was cut off, the
Samson after his hair was cut off, and he lost his sight, and became weak,
Samson whose hair grew back and his strength returned.

Jacob is not a thief, he was retrieving the stolen birth right from easu, for esau is a tare.

Elijah was not fired, he transfigured in life, he put of mortality, and put on immortality in life, resetting again the altar that the prophets of baal threw down. Proving that he is a Son of Man, a Son of his Father Adam His Eminence, who GOD called Man, who set the altar in the Garden of Eden.

This is the time that was written of in Isaiah: Arise, shine for thy light is come, for darkness covered the earth, and gross darkness the people.

Compare that to Genesis:

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

It is written; GOD is light, in HIM is no darkness at all. But I say unto you, GOD is not a force. GOD is not light, HIS Word is Light. Light has a beginning. GOD has no beginning. GOD is like the immaculate light in HIM is no darkness at all.

Thus, the Words from GOD, which are Light, are in the earth. The night time of apostasy is ended, and the testimonies of the Law and the Prophets are standing up again. Arise, shine, for thy light is come.

"In the beginning God created man, male and female he made them. The Hebrew word for man is adamah and the translators rendered it as Adam. It was not his name. There wasn't anyone to christen him. The First man we know called Adam was the father of Cain and Able. They were living in the Bronze Age about 5,000 years ago. Pre-historic man had been around a long time before the Jews wrote their history in the Bible. "

via username Cooper

This time scale is entirely dependent upon unproveable assumptions about geology.

Fallacy: anachronism.

Could the last Adam be man with Jesus inside him? Does having a soul mean to have Jesus inside us?

No, and no. Jesus Himself is “the last Adam”.

Yes, they were more animal like. And to animals, sin is not accounted.
I imagine homo sapiens prior to Adam, something like the 1968 movie, Planet of the Apes, where the astronauts come upon the humanoid population, who can't speak, read, or write, etc.

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

So was it only the last Adam that automatically had Jesus in his heart? Or is Jesus our soul, but it isn't worth anything unless we open the door?

Is it a problem somewhere to say Jesus was in the last Adam? Could the last Adam be the Adam placed in the Garden?