Repent from what? Peter is speaking to Israel who have crucified thier messiah and thought he was a criminal deserving of death . I wonder what they need to repent of ? I don't think its forgetting to observe the sabbath , eating pork , and keeping the laws ect as these are all Jews . ISRAEL . Your question completely is irrelevant to the context of Acts 2.38 . We cant just generalise . " well he was talking to a man , your a man therfore it means ... " well , it had the word cake in it , that's a sweet, I think your sweet therefore it was talking about you dear " . Why are Christians reading the bible like this? " Jesus said to Peter , but really he's talking to me . I know it said Israel but if you squint your eye just right and pull this verse from over here ,over look what it says here , hey presto ! it means us also "
Mormonism's Impossible gospel - Keith Walker
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Lol throughfaith, your some man. Have you read the following verse? Peter tells them this Gospel is for all men.
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Anyhow back the topic.
You can always tell a cult by their view of Jesus. It will always undermine Him his life/death and teachings in someway(often attacking the scriptures). It's not just Mormons some Christians do this as well!
If you encounter a Mormon for a chat or whatever.. Just do what we would do with everyone.. Talk about Jesus. His life death and resurrection. Basically the good news.. Justified by and thru faith alone in Christ alone..
There are only 2 religions in the world.
1) man does something to help or earn his salvation (works) --this is impossible to achieve.
2) man can do nothing to earn his salvation. God has done it. (Grace). This is possible through faith alone.
Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone --- The sole authority for the christian)
Sola Fide (Faith alone--- Justified by faith alone)
Sola Gratia (By Grace alone ---Salvation is an act of pure grace and grace alone).
Solus Christus (In Christ alone --- Christ is the only way of salvation of all who were, are now, or shall be. He is our only mediator).
Soli Deo Gloria (God has all life, glory, goodness, blessedness, in and of Himself.” He is the God of glory (Acts 7:2)
The Five sola's as they are called, basically and, in very short summary spell out what Protestants believe to be biblicaly true. over against religions based on works.
Anyhow, Study Christ, his life and teaching, you'l come to know Him more and love Him more, and teach Him more to others.
if your referring to verse 39 .
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
This demonstrates my point ,that even theologians trip over themselves because they are forcing the text to agree with thier system.
Peter is addressing Israel. This point cannot be refuted . Peter is not even thinking 'Gentiles ' . We don't come in until ten years later with Cornelius. How people miss the fact that Peter needs 3 times a vision from heaven to tell him that the gentiles are now included . How people are assuming Peter is referring to gentiles in 38 and 39 is mind boggling . Peter cannot be referring to any one other than Jews in 39 who were spread afar off . ( dispersion ) He even says Their !!!! children .. The whole of the book of Acts up to chapter 10,11 is ISRAEL !!!
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
This demonstrates my point ,that even theologians trip over themselves because they are forcing the text to agree with thier system.
Peter is addressing Israel. This point cannot be refuted . Peter is not even thinking 'Gentiles ' . We don't come in until ten years later with Cornelius. How people miss the fact that Peter needs 3 times a vision from heaven to tell him that the gentiles are now included . How people are assuming Peter is referring to gentiles in 38 and 39 is mind boggling . Peter cannot be referring to any one other than Jews in 39 who were spread afar off . ( dispersion ) He even says Their !!!! children .. The whole of the book of Acts up to chapter 10,11 is ISRAEL !!!
"Whatever you do, work at it with your whole being, for the Lord and not for men, because you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as your reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.
The above is not saying what you think it is saying. You are interpreting it as God holding believers accountable for the wrong that we have done as believers, i.e. the sins that we have committed, which would undermine the purpose of salvation. It would also do away with the following scripture, as well as others:
"If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness."
According to the scripture above, how then can we be held accountable for the wrongs/sins that we commit, when, if we confess them He cleanses us of all unrighteousness? It would also do away with the promise that God casts our sins as far as the east is from the west and remembers them no more. So what is Colossians 3:25 saying?
"because you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as your reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.
You are interpreting it as meaning that whatever sins/wrongs we have done as believers in Christ, that God is going to punish us for those things, which would basically be unforgiveness. However, the truth of this matter is that, Paul is speaking about those who claim to be believers but do wrong instead of what is right and remain in that state of wrong doing. If your interpretation was true, then I for one would not be looking forward to the blessed hope, because I would be going through a whole lifetime of wrongs/sins that I committed as a believer. And I'm sure that it would be the same for every believer throughout all of history. You're taking your Easy-peezy thing to far.
"Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism."
Meaning that, if a believer continues doing wrong, i.e. willfully living according to the sinful nature, then God will repay that person, because he will not enter into eternal life by living that life. What that scripture is not saying, is that God will punish believers for every wrong that they have done while walking in Christ. In other words, 'you call yourself a believer, but you live a life doing wrong? Then you will be repaid for your wrong. For though you claim to be in Christ, your actions don't match your claim and with God there is no favoritism.
At the judgment seat (Bema Seat) believers will not be judged for sin, but will receive reward or loss of reward. Our sins have been forgiven, cast as far as the east is from the west. For Jesus paid the penalty for them.
The church is not judged at the great white throne, but will be the judgment of all the unrighteous dead throughout all of history. The fact that their spirits will be released from Hades, which a place of torment, tells you that neither the church nor any of the righteous will be judged at that judgments. For the second death will have power over those who take part in that resurrection.
So, according to the above, you have us saved by our works. Yet scripture states that we are save by grace through faith. It is the gift of God, not by works.
Abraham was credited with righteousness because he believed God. James misquoted Abraham saying that he was credited with righteousness by being ready to sacrifice his son. However, Abraham was credited with righteousness 15 years before Isaac was born.
While Peter was still speaking, the Gentile Cornelius and his household, began to speak in languages and prophecy and that without first being baptized, not having any hands laid on them, no works and no promises of keeping the law. For Peter said that God had cleansed their hearts by faith.
The man on the cross of whom Jesus said, 'today you will be with Me in paradise,' could not come down off the cross to be baptized or perform any good works, but simply said, 'Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Yet he obtained eternal life through pure faith.
Good works are the result of faith and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And we will be rewarded for those treasures that we have built up in heaven. However, believers who have continued in faith will not be held accountable for their sins at the Bema Seat, because Jesus was already held accountable for them.
The above is not saying what you think it is saying. You are interpreting it as God holding believers accountable for the wrong that we have done as believers, i.e. the sins that we have committed, which would undermine the purpose of salvation. It would also do away with the following scripture, as well as others:
"If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness."
According to the scripture above, how then can we be held accountable for the wrongs/sins that we commit, when, if we confess them He cleanses us of all unrighteousness? It would also do away with the promise that God casts our sins as far as the east is from the west and remembers them no more. So what is Colossians 3:25 saying?
"because you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as your reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.
You are interpreting it as meaning that whatever sins/wrongs we have done as believers in Christ, that God is going to punish us for those things, which would basically be unforgiveness. However, the truth of this matter is that, Paul is speaking about those who claim to be believers but do wrong instead of what is right and remain in that state of wrong doing. If your interpretation was true, then I for one would not be looking forward to the blessed hope, because I would be going through a whole lifetime of wrongs/sins that I committed as a believer. And I'm sure that it would be the same for every believer throughout all of history. You're taking your Easy-peezy thing to far.
"Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism."
Meaning that, if a believer continues doing wrong, i.e. willfully living according to the sinful nature, then God will repay that person, because he will not enter into eternal life by living that life. What that scripture is not saying, is that God will punish believers for every wrong that they have done while walking in Christ. In other words, 'you call yourself a believer, but you live a life doing wrong? Then you will be repaid for your wrong. For though you claim to be in Christ, your actions don't match your claim and with God there is no favoritism.
At the judgment seat (Bema Seat) believers will not be judged for sin, but will receive reward or loss of reward. Our sins have been forgiven, cast as far as the east is from the west. For Jesus paid the penalty for them.
The church is not judged at the great white throne, but will be the judgment of all the unrighteous dead throughout all of history. The fact that their spirits will be released from Hades, which a place of torment, tells you that neither the church nor any of the righteous will be judged at that judgments. For the second death will have power over those who take part in that resurrection.
So, according to the above, you have us saved by our works. Yet scripture states that we are save by grace through faith. It is the gift of God, not by works.
Abraham was credited with righteousness because he believed God. James misquoted Abraham saying that he was credited with righteousness by being ready to sacrifice his son. However, Abraham was credited with righteousness 15 years before Isaac was born.
While Peter was still speaking, the Gentile Cornelius and his household, began to speak in languages and prophecy and that without first being baptized, not having any hands laid on them, no works and no promises of keeping the law. For Peter said that God had cleansed their hearts by faith.
The man on the cross of whom Jesus said, 'today you will be with Me in paradise,' could not come down off the cross to be baptized or perform any good works, but simply said, 'Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Yet he obtained eternal life through pure faith.
Good works are the result of faith and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And we will be rewarded for those treasures that we have built up in heaven. However, believers who have continued in faith will not be held accountable for their sins at the Bema Seat, because Jesus was already held accountable for them.
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the speech giving guy in the video. He lost me in the first few minutes because he was explaining what he was going to say, rather than just say it.
look it's simple, if I buy a book to read I don't need a chapter on why I should read the book. If I click on you video. I don't need a long speech about what you are going to say. If I come hear you speak get on with it.
look it's simple, if I buy a book to read I don't need a chapter on why I should read the book. If I click on you video. I don't need a long speech about what you are going to say. If I come hear you speak get on with it.
if i understand correctly the mormon idea of 'repentance' is that if you ever fall in sin again, you have not 'repented' -- that is, they define repentance as being sinless in terms of works. so that for example, you repent of covetousness. one day 30 years later you covet something for a moment. according to mormon doctrine, your repentance was false and none of your covetousness is forgiven.
this is 'impossible' in the sense that it must be infinitely tested; you never know if you have **really** repented because at any time in the future you may slip up, and that would mean you haven't. forgiveness in their view is contingent on "true repentance" so you can never have assurance of forgiveness because you can never be sure you have repented.
i haven't watched the video in the OP, so i'm kind of only guessing that this is the same thing being said, but i've had relationships with mormons in the past and given them a great deal of thought. if it's not the point of the OP video, it's an addition to it.
this is 'impossible' in the sense that it must be infinitely tested; you never know if you have **really** repented because at any time in the future you may slip up, and that would mean you haven't. forgiveness in their view is contingent on "true repentance" so you can never have assurance of forgiveness because you can never be sure you have repented.
i haven't watched the video in the OP, so i'm kind of only guessing that this is the same thing being said, but i've had relationships with mormons in the past and given them a great deal of thought. if it's not the point of the OP video, it's an addition to it.
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No, but they do believe that they will become gods. For their motto goes like this:
"As man is, God once was and as God is, man may become."
They believe that they are going to have their own planets and rule as individual gods.
This deception is very sad, with its beginnings based on one man's word, Joseph Smith and his successors.
Lucifer said something similar when he fell saying:
‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’
"As man is, God once was and as God is, man may become."
They believe that they are going to have their own planets and rule as individual gods.
This deception is very sad, with its beginnings based on one man's word, Joseph Smith and his successors.
Lucifer said something similar when he fell saying:
‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’
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