Love God your Father

We know that this is the commandment of the NT.

Mat. 22
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

And if we look at the Word God gave to enable us to do this there is nothing wrong with The Word, Jesus.

John 17

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

But it is now Established by the First post ( The Babies of God - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/the-babies-of-god.197222/ ) that This Love of God has not reached us yet. Some might be happy with being "lukewarm". But others might want to be "hot".

Rev. 2
2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Everything that we can say for ourselves can be "perfect". But our "candlestick" will still be removed if we don't enter Perfect Love of God. From our side to Him. Because there is obviously nothing wrong from His side.

So we need to accept. That only a "Fiercely burning Love for God" can save us from our "lukewarm" situation.

Rev. 3
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.


And if there is anyone that believe that He has it and can Edify us to get it too then of course now is the time to start Teaching those that want to be there. And we can just look at what everybody has to say on this and choose the road we want to follow to reach that position. To be the Perfect Child our Father desires. And which He also equiped to be that. But somewhere The Word to create that got lost in the many religions and doctrines of the groups. Which is of course part of the Disciplining of our Father to us.

Hey! I am the first one here!

Amen! It should be so easy to fall in love with someone who loves us first, especially when they are perfect. He even died for us!

Ok, I see what you mean. You are saying that we are not manifesting God's love in ourselves yet. We are not hot. Just wanted to make sure everybody understands that God has reached out to us in love ever since He created us. His gift of His only begotten Son proves it...

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.

When we look at the world today its easy to blame God. Richard Dawkins describes God as "a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully"

It is easy to forget the words of Jesus, that we are in Satan's dominion and forget our love of God.
John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

I rejected God all my life until Jesus saved me. Its taken a long time but now I have forgiven God and love God again.

Amen!

Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

And who and what is Richard Dawkins?


I'm sure He appreciates that very much (I'm sure you mean that you have gotten your heart right with God.)


Praise the Lord!

He's a world renowned atheist who wrote "The God Delusion"

I was angry at God so first I had to forgive and then love God again.

If he is an atheist who doesn't believe in God, Then why is he trying to describe God???

I guess this just makes him a world renowned God-hater?

Yes sir!!! I got the Holy Spirit in me! PLT!


Amen brother Johan!

John
4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and [then] cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
4:36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
4:37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.


And that is what the Father sees when He sees us through the Blood of His Son.

2 Corinthians
13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Yes!!!

Ok. You also showed the first and the most Love.


Now it is all about Love. The Love of God. The Love that never realized in the groups of strife. Because of that evil spirit that they were given unto by God as their Discipline. To tell them they are wrong. And thus their doctrines and religions could not create much Spiritual Growth. Because the spirit behind them was mainly for their own selfish survival as a group. To get more followers and honor an money. And obviously the problem was with the lack of Word and Revelation that caused the "lukewarm" situation". And this lies mainly at the door of those that grabbed The Gifts from God and were never anointed. And misused the Gifts for a "title". And they have their "reward". The honor and the money they were looking for. But also the negative consequences to stay Babies.

James 3
1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.


Sure they are the Babies of God. Saved and Loved by their Father. Just as the Jews that rejected The Word, Jesus. And they are still existing with their God. God never stepped down from being their God. But obviously they do not live in the intimacy of the Love Relationship that the Babies of God have. Where that Allmighty God they are serving became the Personal Dad of His Babies. And where their Dad is Loving them as their Dad. Looking after them in their lives as their Loving Dad.

Thus we have the two groups of Existence now next to one another. And both groups are happy. But obviously the Babies of God are trying to open the eyes of the "people" of God to accept The Allmighty God they are serving in the Love Relationship of Father and Child. Which they have huge problems with. In accepting that that "Allmighty" God can really have Children that is born of Him and Gods too. This was obviously the reason for the death of Jesus.

John 10

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

And now we have the same situation all over again. Where God is going to create a Third Group. A Perfect Group. Because The Word is Perfect and can create nothing else. Of course the Babies will likewise have a problem with that. But that is their choice. To be part of Perfection or stay in Baby Life.

Hebrews 6
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.

And now we are entering Perfect Love of God.

And this can only be created by the Perfect Word of God.

And we need to see now The Perfect Word of God. It is Jesus. It is the Word of God to create you to be the Real Jesus. And thus in the Creating Power of the Word manifesting by your Faith you will have the Perfect Relationship with God in Perfect Love.

Because the Babies have mainly 3 Gods. A "son" that died for them and a "holy spirit" that is with them. And there is no room in their lives for the One and Only God. Their Father. And in their lack of Revelation they have a "divided" Love and not the Love for their Father that died in Jesus for them and who is now in The Holy Spirit with them. Only One God. Only One Father. And thus all the Love is now directed at the One and Only God. The Allmighty God of the Jews. Now your Father. Giving birth to you in saving your from dead Adam Life by Dying for you. He had to die to give birth to you as His Beloved Perfect Son, Jesus Christ. And you have to die for your Father to be His Perfect Son, Jesus Christ. Because the Word of Jesus can create nothing less or more than it is. The Real Jesus.

Rom. 6

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Gen. 1

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

The Word of God was: "Let there be light". It was not the light. But The Word of God. And it created the Real Light. The Perfect Light.

Same now. The Word of God is the Word Jesus. It is not Jesus. it is the Word Jesus. Creating you to be the Real Jesus. Because God died for you and not that Jesus. And you need to die for your Father which that jesus never did. And thus between you and your Dad the Ultimate Love Relationship can now be a Reality. Created by The Word, jesus. If you believe.

And thus you will now be raptured out of Baby Life and into Perfection of Love. Just as the first rapture. Where the Children of God were raptured out of the people of God Life and into the Baby Life of God. And now we will have 3 groups Existing. The people of God and the Babies of God and the Second coming of Jesus. Which is you. Creating Perfection in you. By the Perfect love of your Perfect Father.

Only if He died for you. And if you get Revelation that your Father died for you. And you get out of Loving an "imaginary" son that died for you. Because God Himself was the Life of The Word. And not "his son".

Col. 2
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

1 Tim. 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Everything the "body of Jesus" did was actually by The Life or Soul inside of Him. Which was the One and only God that gave flesh to Himself. To die on the cross for you. Because it was now your "Father that did the works". And not a "son" he sent to die for you. Which no Father of Love can do in any case. God was always The Savior and still is.

John 14

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

God gave flesh to Himself. To become His Living Word Himself.

John 1
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,

To create you to be the Reality of that Word. And thus you will be able to do Greater things because you are the Real Son, Jesus Christ. In you the Reality of the Word of the Relationship of Father and Son is being manifested.

John 14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Sure. And the greatest Judgment is on the "bosses" that never got The Word from God. But they look into Scripture and bring what they saw and understood with their minds. And you all ate that religions and doctrins of man. And it had no Spiritual Growth in it. Because it was not The Word of God, Jesus. It was interpretations of the mind on The Word. As result they created 3 Gods. From One. And you started loving a Son for dying for you and a "holy spirit" being with you every day in comforting and protecting and providing for you. And as result there was no reason left for Loving your Father.


Now you know that the Only Begotten Son was the Word on the "only begotten Son" to create you to be that Begotten Son. And thus you have to accept your Name that will create your Identity of Jesus Christ. And you become the Second coming of Jesus. Where the first coming was The Word Jesus and you the Reality of The Word Jesus. Or the Real Jesus.

Do take your Name. Because God give you the Name above all Names. The best He has for you. In His Love for you. Every Father wants His Child to be the best. How much more God wants to give you that Name. As your own. Do take it in Faith and allow the Power of the Word in Faith to create what you should be. It is nothing of yourself. But the Word that will do it. If you can Believe in a Perfect Word to create a Perfect Child. Of you.

Col. 3
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Now you will also understand the lack of power when someone pray "in the Name of Jesus" which he knows is not his name and of someone that does not even exist.

And you will understand the Power of Jesus when He said something, knowing who He is that is saying it. And now the same will be your Experience. Knowing who you are will make a world of difference when you pray. There is just no way it can not happen. When you pray as Jesus Christ the Son of God. And you will have a total Perfect Relationship now with your Father in Love. Created by the Perfect Word to be Perfect.

Yep. i was in basically all the Skeptic and Atheist forums until they banned me. And they get this view obviously from the Bible where they interpret the word by their minds that is controlled by human intellect that is "God himself". And in being "God" they can not have another God and have to fight against His existence.

And then they start getting into evidence of the Babies in their existence and think they have now everything they need to prove that Christianity is a lie.

I totally agree. And what is more. The evidence provided by existing Christianity just gave more reason to them to think there is no God. Because there is no Godliness seen between the Babies of God in their fighting of one another.


Yep. All does. Even Paul fought actively against Jesus Christ. But in the end

And that is who we are when we see The Word on the Son and the Real Son the Perfect Word is Creating. In Faith of God.

The New Jerusalem

Of course the Babies will likewise have a problem with this. Just as the Jews had a problem with the Child of God. And you will need a place of Perfection from where you will be fed. Which God is also providing. Where God is sending down from heaven for your sake The New Jerusalem. The Perfect Mother. To Feed you in your New Life of Perfection of Jesus Christ. Because you can obviously not expect the Baby "pastors" with the "titles" to do that for you in their groups. Because The Family is the perfect Growing environment of a Perfect Child. And not a "group" or orphanage.

Isaiah 66
9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.*n4
10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
11 That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.*n5
12 For thus saith the Lord, BehYes!!!old, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.
13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the Lord shall be known toward his servants, and hisindignation toward his enemies.

Of course the prophesy of the OT finds its perfect Fulfillment in The Word of God of the NT. Where everything now is a Personal Relationship. Because the New Jerusalem is God's Wife. And also the Mother to His Children. Everything totally Personal.

Rev. 21
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of Godis with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

And now the Perfect Family of God is a Reality on earth. Where all the Persons of the Family of God is Existing. And where the Perfect Child of God will be raised by His Perfect Parents.

This Family of God is a Spiritual Reality. And only those accepting their New Existence of Jesus Christ who is born of their Mother as their Son, Jesus Christ, will be able to enter into this Family of God in having Parents now. Having a Mother and a Father as it should be.

Gal. 4
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,


Because this Jerusalem is the Wife of God and The Mother of His Children. Giving birth to them in perfection and feeding them with the Perfect Word, Jesus Christ.


1 Cor. 3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?





This is all Spiritual Existence in Heaven or the Spiritual Realm of God. Nothing physical again. And physically the Sons of God who know who and what they are will still be in their various groups. But raptured out of them and into the New Jerusalem or Family of God Spiritually. And now living from there they will be The Light on the Mountain of the City of Jerusalem.

And of course nothing evil can enter there.

Rev. 21
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neitherwhatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

The Persecution

Of course there will be a persecution for all that desires to enter here. For their own sake. Because the persecution is used by God to establish you in this Realities.

Gal. 4

21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was bornafter the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

The Persecution

Of course there will be a persecution for all who enter here. For their own sake. Because the persecution is used by God to establish you in this Realities.


Gal. 4

21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was bornafter the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

You have to be removed from the Babies and their Existence. But will still be The Light to them. From the Mountain and the City Jerusalem on it.

Mat. 5
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Yes, Jesus is God. He was also the Son of God manifested in the Flesh. He now sits at the right hand of His Father, who knows the hour that His Son will return to Earth again.

To love the Son is to Love the Father. Jesus is the Way to the Father. The Gospel is the story and good news about Jesus, the Son of God come in the flesh to make a way for us to come into The Kingdom.

Matthew
10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.