Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?
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Perhaps the following statements by Paul, at the end of his life, could explain this
2 Timothy 1:15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
2 Timothy 4:16 At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.
At the end of his life, Paul's distinctive gospel (Romans 16:25) has been abandoned in favor of the gospel that was preached in the 4 gospels and early Acts, including by those Galatians he was addressing in Galatians 3 (2 Timothy 1:15).
2 Timothy 1:15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
2 Timothy 4:16 At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.
At the end of his life, Paul's distinctive gospel (Romans 16:25) has been abandoned in favor of the gospel that was preached in the 4 gospels and early Acts, including by those Galatians he was addressing in Galatians 3 (2 Timothy 1:15).
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That belief is just something that people have introduced into the church. They did the same thing during Paul's time, calling him a false apostle and that his teachings came from men.
Everything that Paul taught came directly from the Lord, except in certain places where he had no word from the Lord on a specific matter and he gave his insight on.
Everything that Paul taught came directly from the Lord, except in certain places where he had no word from the Lord on a specific matter and he gave his insight on.
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I think the clearer question would be
Did the ascended Christ taught Paul exactly the same gospel as what he taught the 12 while in the flesh during his 1st coming?
If you believe the answer is yes, then yes, you would hold the doctrine that Paul preached exactly the same gospel as Jesus and the 12 preached in Matthew to Acts.
Did the ascended Christ taught Paul exactly the same gospel as what he taught the 12 while in the flesh during his 1st coming?
If you believe the answer is yes, then yes, you would hold the doctrine that Paul preached exactly the same gospel as Jesus and the 12 preached in Matthew to Acts.
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So all the church was apostate including the church fathers who God used to cannonize the Bible, until Darby came along. How preposterous.
These modern cultic philosophies undermine the Bible and people just don't even think. God never used pagans to establish scripture, and the church never disappeared from the earth, leaving pagans to canonize the Bible and establish the scriptures so that one day a second savior could come along and open the books and say eureka, I have discovered the gospel and re-established the church. These ideas are utter rubbish from debased men influenced of Satan to discredit the Bible which all we have of the scriptures.
This is what comes of not knowing church history. Not understanding the actual consequences of these imaginings of debased men.
Revivalism has truly been the most destructive ideology to ever infiltrate Christendom.
The Anglicans saw John Darby as heterodox and booted him out, but American revivalists latched on to his teachings because they had no grasp of actual history or the church founders, no scholatics only pietistic emotionalism. And all manner of nonsense them spread.
These modern cultic philosophies undermine the Bible and people just don't even think. God never used pagans to establish scripture, and the church never disappeared from the earth, leaving pagans to canonize the Bible and establish the scriptures so that one day a second savior could come along and open the books and say eureka, I have discovered the gospel and re-established the church. These ideas are utter rubbish from debased men influenced of Satan to discredit the Bible which all we have of the scriptures.
This is what comes of not knowing church history. Not understanding the actual consequences of these imaginings of debased men.
Revivalism has truly been the most destructive ideology to ever infiltrate Christendom.
The Anglicans saw John Darby as heterodox and booted him out, but American revivalists latched on to his teachings because they had no grasp of actual history or the church founders, no scholatics only pietistic emotionalism. And all manner of nonsense them spread.
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What happens in this discussion is the ' Gospel ' gets turned into a general message about salvation , then every time the word gospel shows up regardless if its before the cross ,after the cross or after / before the tribulation ,this is handled as all the same message. Just because the word 'gosepl 'is mentioned . If you notice it usually says ' the Gospel of ... ' or ' my Gospel ' ' ect . There are distinctions given .
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