The Millennium: An Earthly rule by Christ and his saints

Revelation 20:1-3
1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain.

2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

3 And he threw him into the Abyss, shut it, and sealed it over him, so that he could not deceive the nations until the thousand years were complete.


Where are the nations at this point in the prophecy? They can't be in heaven because satan wasn't in heaven by this point in the prophecy?

I agree all wicked are destroyed at the second coming, at this time the last day resurrection of alltakes place, final judgement, then eternity begins in the New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem

I dont get where you get 1,000 years after the second coming,its eternity?

I disagree with your 1,000 yearssatan us on earth thing, whilethe saved aren't heaven

At the second coming, the resurrection and final judgement takes place, including satan and the Angel's, eternity begins for the righteous in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

Testimony of two or more witnesses establishes a truth. This is a principle followed in the OT and reaffirmed by the Messiah in the NT. And in Revelation 20 we literally have not one, not two, not four, but SIX instances where we're told "a thousand years".


2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Peter was referencing scripture when he wrote this. So in order to get the proper context, we must go back to the passage that first explained it.


Psalm 90:1-4 [brackets mine]
1 Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations. [the writer establishes time from mankind's perspective]

2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, [Heb. "olam" = long time / Age; "from age (of man) to age (of man)"] thou art God.

3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

4 For a thousand years [time from mankind's perspective] in thy sight are but as yesterday [from Almighty's perspective] when it is past, and as a watch in the night.


^ This is the context of Peter's statement; that 1000 of mankind's years is as 1 of Almighty's days. We find the 2nd witness of this truth in Genesis 2:17 when The Almighty warns Adam not to eat of the forbidden tree, saying, "IN THE DAY you eat of it you shall surely die."

We know that after Adam ate from the forbidden tree he lived 930 years before dying. The Almighty isn't a liar. So Adam died in the day from The Almighty's perspective.

1 of Almighty's days = 1000 of mankind's years

The millennium reign IS the day of the Lord; the Sabbath day of rest.

Satan is "Currently" bound from one "Specific Purpose" that is "Deceiving The Nations" To Battle

Many falsely want to claim "Deceive The Nations" is interpreted as evil in general, stating evil is present in this world,so satan isnt bound, 100% "False"

The very context of the scripture in Revelation 20:1-9 interprets itself (Fact)

Bound From "Deceive The Nations To Battle"

Not General Evil In This World Presently

Revelation 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

If satan is currently bound, then he is bound in the abyss...and if in the abyss then how can he be roaming the earth seeking who he may devour (unless you're saying he's not roaming the earth right now?

Also, scripture says satan is bound AFTER the Messiah returns in Chapter 19. Has the Messiah returned yet and has the marriage supper occurred?

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed, by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Do you have anything to challenge in my post you quoted or will you continue copying & pasting the same post?

Satan roaming the earth has absolutely "Nothing" to do with (Deceiving The Nations To Battle)

Satan is currently bound and sealed by the (Sixth Vial) after this is poured out, his seal will be lifted

Satan's deception will be in devils going forth to the kings of the earth, gathering them to battle

Rev 16:12-17 & Rev 20:7-9 are parallel teachings of the same event, the final battle

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Revelation 20:7-9KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

As expected, you cant find a Physical Kingdom On Earth, A Physical Throne, Or Mortal Humans In Rev 20:1-6?

Because they dont exist, a Millennial Kingdom on this Earth, is a man made fairy tale (Fact)

Oh but it has EVERYTHING to do with roaming. The nations aren't in one location on earth and satan isn't omnipresent, he must roam to deceive the nations.

The Revelation 20 passage says satan is bound IN...IN a location translated as "abyss" or "BOTTOMLESS PIT". The passage says nothing about bounding his mouth or "magically" binding him so he can't speak, but is specifically limiting his movement to a specific place under the earth (the same place where other disobedient angels were imprisoned after the floor, spoken by Peter in 1 Peter 3:19).

You're trying to make your view fit by ignoring portions of passages.

You ignoring what I've posted isn't quite what's happening here...


1000 literal years of mankind...

Did the Almighty warn Adam of his death "in the day" of eating the forbidden fruit?
Did Adam die within the 1000 years he ate of the forbidden fruit?
So is 1 of Almighty's days = 1000 of man's years?


On Earth...

Where are the nations in Revelation 20:3, in heaven or on earth?

Perhaps You Need To Understand, Jesus Christ Returns, Appears, Reveals, in Fire and (Final Judgement)

There wont be a 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom on this earth, Jesus Christ will return in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire.

2 Thessalonians 7:8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

"Destroyed Them All" At His Revealing (Fact)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

At His Presence, The World Is Burned, And "All" That Dwell Therein (Fact)

Nahum 1:5KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

The Heavens And Earth Are (Dissolved)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

The word "Nations" dosen't represent

A Physical Earthly Millennial Kingdom

A Physical Earthly Throne, Where Jesus Christ Sits

Or Mortal Humans

Those reigning with God and Christ are "The Souls", "The Dead" 100% Spiritual Realm, Who You Kidding

The Teaching Of A Literal, Physical, 1,000 Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Where Jesus Christ Sits On A Throne Of David, With Mortal Humans Present?

Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)!

What about the throne in Heaven where Jesus is today, If Jesus comes and collects the saved and raises the dead that are saved, and takes them back to the heavenly City where the throne is. 1000 years in heaven is the start of eternity for the saved, and then the second resurrection and Satan is destroyed with all the wicked.

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him” (Revelation 1:7).
“The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout. ... And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17).
“This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection” (Revelation 20:5, 6).
“The rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” (Revelation 20:5).
“All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation” (John 5:28, 29).

Two resurrections separated by 1000 years.

“I ... saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. ... And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men’ ” (Revelation 21:2, 3).
“Behold, the day of the Lord is coming. ... And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two. ... Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. ... All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem” (Zechariah 14:1, 4, 5, 10).

The New Jerusalem will settle where the mount of Olives now stands. The mountain will be flattened to make a great plain, upon which the city will come to rest. All of the righteous people of all ages (Zechariah 14:5), the angels of heaven (Matthew 25:31), God the Father (Revelation 21:2, 3), and God the Son (Matthew 25:31) will return to the earth with the holy city for Jesus’ special third coming. The second coming will be for His saints, while the third will be with His saints.

At the close of the 1,000 years (when Jesus comes the third time), the wicked will be raised. Satan, loosed from his bonds, will then have an earth full of people (all the nations of the world) to deceive.
“Satan will … go out to deceive the nations … of the earth … to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city” (Revelation 20:7–9).

“Fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into ... the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death” (Revelation 20:9, 10; 21:8).
“ ‘The wicked ... shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,’ says the Lord of hosts” (Malachi 4:3).
(Matthew 25:41). This fire that destroys sin and sinners is called the second death.

“Behold, I create new heavens and a new earth” (Isaiah 65:17).
“Look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells” (2 Peter 3:13).
“He who sat on the throne said, ‘Behold, I make all things new’ ” (Revelation 21:5).
“The tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God” (Revelation 21:3).

After the 1000 years the city of God will be the Earths capital. And sin will be no more. eternity continues.....

Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh_14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Jesus has prepared a place for the saved in the New Jerusalem above. It will come down as Rev 21 describes after the 1000 years.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

@Angela53510 ,

What are you disagreeing with exactly? I mean I saw you painted the forum red on multiple posts, but didn't actually post any thoughts. We're here if you ever want to discuss. Thanks.

First off the physical jesus.

Upon his accension the angel said he would return in the same matter as you see him now.

The restoration of israel.

The time of the lord's servant has been cut short. (The crucifixion) therefore jesus comes again and as we see in revelation they looked on him that was pierced. Not only the second proof of the physical jesus but also the receiving of there Messiah. Jesus said it is the house of his friends ( not enemies).
Do you go to your friends house to destroy it? Or to visit?
Scripture shows us that almost each time jesus went in to a dwelling he healed or sup with them.
Because he (jesus) was cut short on the first visitation time is given for him to fulfill it.
As jesus said : not one jot or title shall pass till all is fulfilled......all.
Jesus will fulfill all of the prophecy.