Changing Of The Guard

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Lynx

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Title Capitalized Because It Was Started From A Seoulsearch Thread And She Always Does This With Her Thread Titles.

Have you ever noticed how much it hurts when somebody else takes your place? It doesn't matter if you hated doing that job. It doesn't matter if they do it better than you could have. It doesn't matter if you are now free to get some much needed rest, or to go on to bigger things... it can really hurt when somebody comes along and moves into the place you used to occupy.

I'll use an example seoulsearch used in another thread, because she already has it all nicely typed out and because she gave me permission to use it here.

seoulsearch's example:

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I'll call the first, Sister Abby -- a woman in her 50's who has been in ministry most of her life. Abby has taken a young woman in the church, Sister Beth (in her 20's) under her own wing, and sees her as someone who could be a good helper to Abby's own personal ministry, as well as someone who might be able to take it over in later years.

Sister Abby has a very introverted, guarded personality; by contrast, Sister Beth is very extroverted, warm, and outgoing. Sister Abby almost always waits for people to approach her first; while the young Sister Beth always makes an effort to approach others first and ask how they are doing.

Over time, Sister Abby sees that the people are becoming much more drawn to Sister Beth, and starts to see this young woman as basically stealing her ministry. She starts to cut Sister Beth out of the loop, excluding her from important events and information, and when Sister Beth asks why, Sister Abby tells her, "I forgive you for all the wrong you've done to me. We just have to forgive each other and move on."

But Sister Beth is left utterly confused over exactly how it is that she has wronged Sister Abby, since she has done everything that Sister Abby asked for her without complaint and in an honoring way.
END QUOTE

(Yeah I didn't do the
thing right. But I didn't want it fading out before it got to the bottom of the quote.)

Now "Abby" should have been well pleased. She had wanted "Beth" to take over her job. And "Beth" was doing it even better than "Abby" could have done it. But instead "Abby" felt like she was being pushed out of her niche, and it hurt.

From my own experience I can say it hurts no matter how many times it has happened, and no matter how much you have thought it out in the past instances. I've been a "placeholder" of sorts many times in the church, filling in a job because I'm available, until somebody more qualified for the job comes along. I seem to be passable at many things, fortunately. And every time I take over a task that I'm just okay at, we always seem to quickly get a new member added to our church who just happens to be excellent at that job. And frankly that's GREAT! But... every time it happens, it still kinda hurts the ole pride, y'know?

Almost everybody I know and respect a lot has expressed negative feelings about not filling a certain role any more. Sis. Kim, one of the nicest people I have ever met, has expressed disappointment that she is not doing something she used to do. Even our senior (retired) pastor, 89 years old and the single greatest example of "goodness" I have ever known, even he has made comments that indicate he sometimes feels despondent about not doing the things he used to do... and if anybody deserves a rest, he does!

But sometimes it just hurts.

It's not just in the church, of course. Different people shift around to different tasks on the job. My Grandma can't drive anymore and has to depend on others to drive her everywhere. Sometimes that new guy might get the manager's position instead of you.

And even though the manager's position pays only a little bit more, and even though it has a lot more stress and responsibility, and even though it would seriously get in the way of your personal life... sometimes it can still hurt.

How about y'all. Have you ever surrendered a task to somebody you knew could do it better, or somebody younger, or just somebody who had more free time to do it? Have you ever seen somebody else dealing with giving up a position?

Have you ever wondered why, in spite of the free time you have to rest, and in spite of the responsibility you no longer have to bear, why it hurt so much?
 

Lynx

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I only just now noticed that in attempting to do the quotes without the forum's quote function, I inadvertently "did it wrong" even MORE wrong, and the rest of the first post is now a quote. Feh!

Maybe I can get a moderator to fix it for me.
 

cinder

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I guess you'll just have to write more threads to get used to how the different functions work.

As to the actual topic of the thread ..... let's just say there's still a part of me that's hoping that the lazy bum of a co-worker who got promoted over me will end up getting let go by his new boss if he keeps pulling that lazy bum type of stuff. Not getting promoted didn't bother me nearly as much as seeing someone who I believe to be a lazy crappy worker getting promoted.

And then there was how upset I got about losing my first job out of college ( ultimately it was a parting by mutual consent) and I remember going through the whole " Self, you've been miserable this whole year so why do you care if people think you're no good at this job when you don't really want to do it anyway?" But I have an innate intolerance of incompetence especially within myself so I want to be competent at everything (or else I try to convince myself it's not worth doing if I'm not any good at it).
 

seoulsearch

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Great thread, Lynx.

I'm sorry to dampen the mood, but my little last remnants of bitterness are seeping out today.

For me, the worst replacement is when your spouse replaces you with someone else.

*Breathe in, breathe out.*

Ok, thanks for letting me vent.

And Thank You For The Tribute In Regards To Thread Titles... :D

I write them that way because a grade school teacher taught us to capitalize all the "Important Words" in a title... After all, what does the Bible say? "Bring up a child in the way she should go, and when she is old, she will not stray from it." Proverbs 13:24 :cool:

However, I'm sure that same teacher would be horrified to see me occasionally capitalizing "lesser" words like conjunctions ("And," "But," "Or,") but every now and then I just have to go for the gusto and capitalize the blue blazes out of everything for emphasis. :geek:
 
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Maybe sometimes our beliefs about how we should be recognized do not line up with reality.

If that's the case then it can be difficult to accept when others do not meet our expectations. It seems like it just sets us up for a perceived offenses that exist only in our mind.

Maybe we need more compassion in the world. Start recognizing people for their intrinsic value as a person rather than an asset that is only valuable as long as it is useful.

We can start by being the change we want to see.
 
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jennymae

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Great thread, Lynx.

I'm sorry to dampen the mood, but my little last remnants of bitterness are seeping out today.

For me, the worst replacement is when your spouse replaces you with someone else.

*Breathe in, breathe out.*

Ok, thanks for letting me vent.

And Thank You For The Tribute In Regards To Thread Titles... :D

I write them that way because a grade school teacher taught us to capitalize all the "Important Words" in a title... After all, what does the Bible say? "Bring up a child in the way she should go, and when she is old, she will not stray from it." Proverbs 13:24 :cool:

However, I'm sure that same teacher would be horrified to see me occasionally capitalizing "lesser" words like conjunctions ("And," "But," "Or,") but every now and then I just have to go for the gusto and capitalize the blue blazes out of everything for emphasis. :geek:
Ain’t that a fact, girl❤️.
 

phil36

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Title Capitalized Because It Was Started From A Seoulsearch Thread And She Always Does This With Her Thread Titles.

Have you ever noticed how much it hurts when somebody else takes your place? It doesn't matter if you hated doing that job. It doesn't matter if they do it better than you could have. It doesn't matter if you are now free to get some much needed rest, or to go on to bigger things... it can really hurt when somebody comes along and moves into the place you used to occupy.

I'll use an example seoulsearch used in another thread, because she already has it all nicely typed out and because she gave me permission to use it here.

seoulsearch's example:

QUOTE
I'll call the first, Sister Abby -- a woman in her 50's who has been in ministry most of her life. Abby has taken a young woman in the church, Sister Beth (in her 20's) under her own wing, and sees her as someone who could be a good helper to Abby's own personal ministry, as well as someone who might be able to take it over in later years.

Sister Abby has a very introverted, guarded personality; by contrast, Sister Beth is very extroverted, warm, and outgoing. Sister Abby almost always waits for people to approach her first; while the young Sister Beth always makes an effort to approach others first and ask how they are doing.

Over time, Sister Abby sees that the people are becoming much more drawn to Sister Beth, and starts to see this young woman as basically stealing her ministry. She starts to cut Sister Beth out of the loop, excluding her from important events and information, and when Sister Beth asks why, Sister Abby tells her, "I forgive you for all the wrong you've done to me. We just have to forgive each other and move on."

But Sister Beth is left utterly confused over exactly how it is that she has wronged Sister Abby, since she has done everything that Sister Abby asked for her without complaint and in an honoring way.
END QUOTE

(Yeah I didn't do the

It sure can hurt there's no doubts about it. Not always but sometimes.

Replacement can feel like rejection as has been said above. And no one likes to be or feel rejected. We all want to be loved and accepted its part of who we are. So the Hurt and pain of rejection is real indeed. I think we all know that we can't control the behavior of others but we can do something about how we feel and act/re-act.

How we react to rejection will often show in how we treat the rejected. But doing some rejection is good for you... What I mean by that is by rejecting any thoughts that are not in line with Scripture ie. Bitterness, anger, actions in revenge, even hatred can rear its ugly head. Resentment can grow ugly fast... Cain and Abel comes to mind. When we've been hurt by rejection - is it easy to let go of all these emotions and re-actions? Certainly not.

I can't say how long it will take to heal, every situation and person is different. What I do know is that it will never heal without resentment if we don't realize who we are in Jesus. We are Loved, We will never be rejected, we are cared for, we are precious (Jer 31:3

  1. he Lord appeared to us in the past, saying:

    “I have loved you with an everlasting love;
    I have drawn you with unfailing kindness. Jermiah 31:3


  2. As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 1 Peter 2:4

Remember your identity in Jesus of his unwavering and never changing love for you... Lean into His love. Pray to him, He already knows your heart, He already knows your pain of rejection.. He suffered a terrible rejection himself but love won the day. And His love will never fail us. Read His word and commune closer with Him, He is your healing balm.

Remember, we can't change the actions and words of others, but we can control how we deal with it. I don't want to make it sound as this is an easy thing to do, it's not. Or excuse the actions of other. But rest in Jesus' love and see how he loves you!

Isaiah 53:3

He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Psalm 147:3

He heals the brokenhearted
and binds up their wounds.



 

Tararose

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#9
I was thinking,

maybe this is like being put in the friend zone, or having someone hang out with my just because no one else is available, kind of kept on hold, in case no one better appears for a while and then you will do... maybe....

but if that someone better appears, its bye bye friend.

Yeah, I guess that is how God feels the way we treat Him often times sadly.

But yeah, its gotta hurt!
No one likes to feel useless, displaced or rejected.

We are all only human.
 

Lynx

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It also helps to be able to recognize when somebody is better at something than I am, and to understand "he does this job better" does not mean "he's a better person."

And it looks like I'll have to work on that a lot more as I get older and abilities start shutting down.
 

Reborn

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Some painful examples of replacements stepping in above. (So sorry to hear)

My replacement?

My daughter gets a new StepFather.
...and "likes him a lot"

(That's a triple ouch, kicked while down type pain)








Since it was brought up moments ago on another thread ... that's probably where l pull the pain for my joke material? 😢


No jokes on this post.
I guess some things just aren't funny at all.
 

seoulsearch

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Some painful examples of replacements stepping in above. (So sorry to hear)

My replacement?

My daughter gets a new StepFather.
...and "likes him a lot"

(That's a triple ouch, kicked while down type pain)








Since it was brought up moments ago on another thread ... that's probably where l pull the pain for my joke material? 😢


No jokes on this post.
I guess some things just aren't funny at all.

Oh my goodness, Reborn. :cry:

So for various reasons, this is a time of year when I tend to be more reflective and somber, but reading your post was a good swift kick in my blessed assurance to think more about what other people are going through and how it really is for them. :(

I wish there was something I could say that could make things better. I've felt replaced at various points of my life, but I cannot imagine what it must be like to pour your heart and soul into raising your own child and then feel as if they have replaced you with a new parental figure. :(

Thank you for being honest enough to make such a raw and honest post. For me, it was a much-needed wake-up call.

I am so sorry you're going through this... You will definitely be in my prayers.
 

tourist

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Some painful examples of replacements stepping in above. (So sorry to hear)

My replacement?

My daughter gets a new StepFather.
...and "likes him a lot"

(That's a triple ouch, kicked while down type pain)








Since it was brought up moments ago on another thread ... that's probably where l pull the pain for my joke material? 😢


No jokes on this post.
I guess some things just aren't funny at all.
Many years ago the same thing happened to me. Fortunately, things are much better now between us, but again, took years to reach that point where we are close once again. No joke.
 

Dino246

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Some painful examples of replacements stepping in above. (So sorry to hear)

My replacement?

My daughter gets a new StepFather.
...and "likes him a lot"

(That's a triple ouch, kicked while down type pain)
I have been through a very similar experience. I can't think of a worse pain that a child can cause their parent.
 

Lighthearted

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Title Capitalized Because It Was Started From A Seoulsearch Thread And She Always Does This With Her Thread Titles.

Have you ever noticed how much it hurts when somebody else takes your place? It doesn't matter if you hated doing that job. It doesn't matter if they do it better than you could have. It doesn't matter if you are now free to get some much needed rest, or to go on to bigger things... it can really hurt when somebody comes along and moves into the place you used to occupy.

I'll use an example seoulsearch used in another thread, because she already has it all nicely typed out and because she gave me permission to use it here.

seoulsearch's example:

QUOTE
I'll call the first, Sister Abby -- a woman in her 50's who has been in ministry most of her life. Abby has taken a young woman in the church, Sister Beth (in her 20's) under her own wing, and sees her as someone who could be a good helper to Abby's own personal ministry, as well as someone who might be able to take it over in later years.

Sister Abby has a very introverted, guarded personality; by contrast, Sister Beth is very extroverted, warm, and outgoing. Sister Abby almost always waits for people to approach her first; while the young Sister Beth always makes an effort to approach others first and ask how they are doing.

Over time, Sister Abby sees that the people are becoming much more drawn to Sister Beth, and starts to see this young woman as basically stealing her ministry. She starts to cut Sister Beth out of the loop, excluding her from important events and information, and when Sister Beth asks why, Sister Abby tells her, "I forgive you for all the wrong you've done to me. We just have to forgive each other and move on."

But Sister Beth is left utterly confused over exactly how it is that she has wronged Sister Abby, since she has done everything that Sister Abby asked for her without complaint and in an honoring way.
END QUOTE

(Yeah I didn't do the
When you've been around the block a few times...being self centered in the wrong way can steal your joy. Give growth to self improvement in the right way. It can be hard to accept but if you don't move on...you end up missing out. Bitterness is destructive.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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I've had situations where I was replaced. I was great friends with these two girls in my early-mid 20s who did not really know each other too well except through me. I was away for a long trip, once I came back these two were best friends (went to the beach, shopping, etc.) and started hanging out together without me.