Will, When and How will Satan come as Jesus?

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TMS

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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
 
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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
1 John 2:18–23

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1).

how will it all happen
It has been happening since the garden and will cumulate when the actual anti-Christ reveals himself during a time of upheaval such as the world has not seen and he will come offering peace but his path is destruction, murder, war and anti-God and Christ Jesus hatred which will spill over to all those who ARE Christians, not just those who are Christian in name only, but those who are members of the actual body of Christ and who are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Deception is rampant and deception is the devil's #1 tool. The church is playing games and has been infiltrated by false teaching, lying spirits and a false gospel.
 

iamsoandso

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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.

That's arbitrary to Christianity but other religions will see him as who their faith/religion is expecting to come in the end https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_thessalonians/2-4.htm so for instance to the Islamic's they will see it as the Isa/al-dajjal event the Hindus will see it as Kalkin,,,the Jews will see it as the Messiahs coming according to their belief and it could be easily confused by Christians as the second coming of Christ.

As Paul is stating he will come claiming authority over every object/god worshiped so he pretends to be more than just Jesus you would need to examine the different religions and see who (they) are expecting in the end day to see who all he pretends to be.,,, as a starting place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time
 
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DWR

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I see no Scripture when properly understood that states or implies that Satan comes as Jesus.
His total presents will be the opposite of Jesus and clearly seen by all.
 

soberxp

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why you always think everything will seen by all, even The scripture has seen by all,we still can't understood it all.
I think antichrists are good for us. People are rebellious,The Antichrist's words will strengthen the believer.The Bible says blessed are those who keep the prophecy, and the antichrist is the one who keeps it.

Can you see the link in my signature?
 

CS1

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hmm I think he is already here as Democrat liberal socialist or a RINO lol
 
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SophieT

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I see no Scripture when properly understood that states or implies that Satan comes as Jesus.
His total presents will be the opposite of Jesus and clearly seen by all.

I agree. I overlooked that in my first response. He will still present himself as a mediator of peace though and the world is not where it will be when that happens.
 
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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
So just to clarify are we asking the question in the form of what does the Scripture say?
Or what form will all this take that meets what is stated in Scripture (politician, business figure, child from an orphanage, etc?)
What specific country/nationality? What specific event (like will it be WW3 or 4, a famine, will he be head of the Club of Rome or something?)

That's more what I'm most curious of.
 

Nehemiah6

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Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
You will need to study the book of Daniel and Revelation 13 to see how it will happen. The Antichrist will claim to be Christ and God, while opposing them. However, since God will send a strong delusion upon the inhabitants of the world at that time, the majority of people will be deceived, and think that this imposter is Christ.
 

iamsoandso

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Yep Jesus said he would write a name on the ones who overcome https://biblehub.com/revelation/3-12.htm and where? https://biblehub.com/revelation/14-1.htm and the beast does the same thing? https://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm Will the beast separate the sheep from the goats like Jesus and gather the wheat into the barn and cast the chaff into the fire because they wont worship his image? https://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm Makes you wonder who the MoS says are his sheep and who the chaff are right?
 

TMS

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I see no Scripture when properly understood that states or implies that Satan comes as Jesus.
His total presents will be the opposite of Jesus and clearly seen by all.
Satan was the highest Angel and is much smarter then us.
Do you think he will deceive more if he comes as an angel of light or if he comes as an evil, dark angel? John 8:44 ....He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

He is a liar and deceiver and cunning at it. If he has had 6000 years of experience this last great deception is going to be a big one. When you mix a nice drink with 1% poison, it is much more dangerous then a drink that is 100% poison.

Satan will appear wonderful to be able to deceive the world.
 

T_Laurich

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Depends on your definitions.

For instance, we know God is truth, yet there has been a intellectual movement of recent to make truth into conjecture.

We know God is love, yet the world defines love by what makes you feel good rather than what is good.

We also know that Satan appeals to the flesh, and it logically follows this is 1 of the reasons we sin so often even with the Holy Spirit inside of us.

So we know we sin even though God Himself is inside of us, it is logical to assume that Satan while on earth will appeal to the flesh in the worlds definitions of righteousness and our flesh will be longing for Satan.


If our spirit longs for God even greater when given the presence of God.... How much more will our flesh long if given the presence of its master?
 
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Satan was the highest Angel and is much smarter then us.
Do you think he will deceive more if he comes as an angel of light or if he comes as an evil, dark angel? John 8:44 ....He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

He is a liar and deceiver and cunning at it. If he has had 6000 years of experience this last great deception is going to be a big one. When you mix a nice drink with 1% poison, it is much more dangerous then a drink that is 100% poison.

Satan will appear wonderful to be able to deceive the world.
the devil maybe smarter, and will appear as an angel of light.
However, Satan still loses in the end.
 

TMS

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the devil maybe smarter, and will appear as an angel of light.
However, Satan still loses in the end.
True
If we fear the Lord we have nothing in this world to fear.
God is giving him enough rope to hang himself.
But people need to be warned so they don't get deceived.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 

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Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev_13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev_18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

True it is already happening, Just wanting to highlight how complete the deception is. All the earth will be deceived and we are told the only people that are not deceived are those in the book of life and those that don't receive the mark of the beast.

If the majority says we should do it, we need to test it. Don't follow it just because the majority is.
 

soberxp

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when satan really comes as Jesus,How should we test it,When the Bible says you shall not tempt your God. LOL
 

TMS

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when satan really comes as Jesus,How should we test it,When the Bible says you shall not tempt your God. LOL
The test is the Bible. The sure word is what Jesus used when tempted so we should use it too.
If the Christ tells you to obey Him and the request is to worship Mary or Peter you can be certain it is not Jesus. God tells us to only worship Him. Even angels will not allow us to worship them. This is why we need to know our Bibles.
Mat_4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

The devil will think of lots of ways to deceive and trick people and it will not be openly black or white, it will deceive the very elect if possible.
 

soberxp

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The test is the Bible. The sure word is what Jesus used when tempted so we should use it too.
If the Christ tells you to obey Him and the request is to worship Mary or Peter you can be certain it is not Jesus. God tells us to only worship Him. Even angels will not allow us to worship them. This is why we need to know our Bibles.
Mat_4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

The devil will think of lots of ways to deceive and trick people and it will not be openly black or white, it will deceive the very elect if possible.
I've been scalded by boiling water,Not long after that,Someone I didn't know suddenly said to me:"Dead pig Not afraid of boiling water."

When I worked in a bank,Someone complained about something,she was going to complain to manager,and said,
How about she was at another bank yesterday,but she wanted to complain to manager about me.

How do you think ? The power of Satan?The wonder of Satan?

what's wrong with these person?
 

TMS

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I've been scalded by boiling water,Not long after that,Someone I didn't know suddenly said to me:"Dead pig Not afraid of boiling water."

When I worked in a bank,Someone complained about something,she was going to complain to manager,and said,
How about she was at another bank yesterday,but she wanted to complain to manager about me.

How do you think ? The power of Satan?The wonder of Satan?

what's wrong with these person?
God is stronger and will win in the end. Satan and his angels are having there time which they know is short. Stay close to Jesus.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 

Blain

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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
It isn't that he will come as Jesus it is that he will declare himself as God and even then he will have fiorst created a seven year peace treaty with Israel
How he will come who knows but I know he is already here.
I have wondered who it could be the bible says to calculate the number 666 for it is the name of a man I know that in the hebrew language each letter has a number asigned to it so I have been curious as to if someone were to calculate names of those in power in the world right now using this method if it would be possible to figure it out it says let he with wisdom calculate it guess I'm out LOL