I almost don't want to know....

Stop acting like it was not antifa.

Only robot cnn adherants with pieces of propaganda believe those leftist lies.

I agree. I do lean more conservative when it comes to things such as abortion, but I'm mostly in the middle. I dont know enough about libertarian to support them. Rn I dont support any politician or political party. And you are correct he definitely isnt a traditional Republican.

(1) I have never watched CNN in my life except by accident when it happens to be on in an establishment where I happen to be. Even then, I try to ignore it. I find their reporting weak, hap-hazard, and among the least reliable.

(2) Right-wing organizations have been organizing this for weeks. There is a paper-trail (well, an electronic trail, at least) of right-wing internet groups posting the exact time of this attack on the capitol, instructing people to bring weapons and be ready to use them. Right-wing groups. Not Antifa. Trump was aware of this planning and referred to it in his speech when he told people to march to the capitol. Trump absolutely instigated it, and by Constitutional law he (as well as the individuals who did breach the capitol, and the police who helped them) should be hanged. That is what the US Constitution says.

Stop acting like it wasn't right-wing extremists. Only brain-washed ignorant fools believe that.

For the record, I am well aware that not all conservatives are extremists, and in fact a majority of conservatives do NOT approve of the actions on Wednesday. In fact, once congress reconvened on Wednesday, many of the senators and representatives who had planned to object, in light of those horrific actions, switched their vote to approve, cementing Biden's win.

And you are very wrong about who is responsible for it. ALL of the people involved have been identified as members of right-wing extremist groups.

Abortion is not a political platform. Nor is the lack of it.

This is a concern for God fearing people and politicizing Christianity has put this nation where it is...or at least it has certainly helped to create the current miasma

You cannot be a middle of the road person because neither side will 'take you in'. People make choices. If a person believes they can just walk some line in the middle, they will eventually choose whatever side gives the least resistance. By your remarks about Trump and the comments about orange haired god, I see what you think and say if no one objects.

I think you have chosen and frankly, I choose to end the converstation. Thank you

... but I'm going to ask anyway:

How many here have changed their opinion of Trump due to the events of this morning (Wednesday) at the US Capitol? Or maybe you still prefer him to Biden, but you agree he maybe went too far?

You have every right to leave a conversation of course, but I do have to add that the poster repented for those comments. I don’t think we should be bringing them up. We all say things we shouldn’t sometimes, often exaggerating our feelings because of frustrations. I would hate for people to bring up my failings after I apologised. I have so many.

I don't think this is your place at all.

Perhaps you would like to censor people here? I am sure you can find someone far more worthy of your efforts than I am.

That would include people in this thread.

I am not censoring anyone. I thought Christians are meant to encourage one another in the simple things like forgiveness and overlooking faults etc. I thought it was a basic principle of the faith and was just encouraging a sister to remember love covers a multitude of sins. If the poster hadnt apologised then i could see why you brought it up. You don’t have to listen to me but I meant to you no harm. Take care and God bless.

You know excuse me, but what kind of drama are you trying to create here?

First off, this is the NEWS FORUM, and I disagreed with someone's comments. You had nothing to say in this thread but decided I needed you to moderate me. The problem there is that you are making things up and creating a drama that does not exist.

You are not being nice; your subtle snooty comments about basic faith principles and supposedly encouraging someone, are ridiculous.
It is not your business if I wanted to say something or not. I said nothing wrong. Do you have some kind of personal relationship with the poster that you are harassing me at this point?

I never said anyone meant me harm, so where do you get that from? This is schoolyard drama you are creating, while redirecting the thread to make yourself the center of attention.

Get over it and move on. Maybe you should not frolic about in the NEWS FORUM if you are going to get so worked up over people who disagree. It is not your place to tell others what to say or think.

Some people really cannot keep their noses out of what is not their business. That would be you in this case.

Sorry you took it this way. Whether I am inadequate at explaining or you misunderstood my motives it doesn’t really matter. It not nice to be at odds with you for no reason. I don’t know anyone personally here, I will now just use the ignore button so as not to cause offence any further (Such as if I were to accidentally reply to any of your posts). If you would be so kind as to do the same then we won’t be able to see each other’s posts and that way I won’t get on your nerves. I can’t make you do that but it might make your experience here nicer if you did.

Life is too short for falling out.

That explains it, you are at best outward form Christians, denying the power Jesus died to bring the world.
He was clear that most would be of that camp, whereas His Own who walk with Him in vital relationship would do greater works than He.

Conservatism isn't considered an extremist ideology neither is Republicanism. I think you are attempting to conflate extremism with the conservative spectrum.

You're falling for the big lie that so called "right wing extremists" are just a few steps down the spectrum from conservatism and that isn't true;.....

I know you're watching something on the CNN side of the media bias spectrum after reading your posts in this thread.

I do think it's ironic you said "Stop acting like it wasn't right-wing extremists. Only brain-washed ignorant fools believe that."

Just a friendly reminder, the debate needs to remain civil. If it can't be kept civil the thread will be closed and offenders removed.

There is a reason that many social sites like this one prohibit politics as a subject, the vast majority can't discuss the subject without making snide comments, personal attacks against the character of their opponent, or getting their knickers in a knot.

I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear. I don't believe that all conservatives are extremist, nor do I think all Republicans are. I was in fact drawing a line of distinction between mainstream conservatives and extreme conservatives.

I would say that the Republican Party as a whole is moving closer and closer to the extreme right, which is troublesome to me. I remember a time when Republicans were more moderate. Now I can count moderate Republicans on one hand.



I'm not sure where you got the idea that I thought most conservatives were right-wing extremists. But again, I apologize that I was not more clear in stating my belief that that is NOT the case.

I'd say the difference between right-wing extremists and mainstream conservatives is about the same as the difference between left-wing extremists and mainstream liberals.

If you think most democrats -- especially those in power, like Pelosi and Biden -- are "left-wing extremists," then I have news for you, you are the one who is deluded, who has been lied to by media, and who has bought the lie, hook line and sinker. Today's Democratic Party, on any international measuring stick, would be to the right of center. Extreme liberals are rare in this country. They exist, but they don't have any political clout. If you don't believe me, I refer you to Exhibit A: Bernie Sanders. He's pretty solidly "Left," (not even "extreme left," as he is not calling for communism or an end to all capitalism), and he has been soundly silenced by the Democratic Party and deemed too far left for them. They almost tolerate Warren, who is significantly right of Sanders, and that's just almost.

Antifa qualifies as left-wing extremists. And they are condemned by the PTB. They ran a slick campaign, trying to get people to believe that "Antifa" just means "anti-fascist," and anyone who was anti-anti-fa was just "fascist." They fooled a lot of people -- myself included. But when they started killing people in the name of their movement, it became clear they were extremists.



Sorry. I can't stand CNN. I get my news from as unbiased sources as possible.

BBC is a great source for American news, because they don't have a dog in the race, as it were. They tend to be very unbiased on American news, because they have no allegiance either way. They don't have to worry about which side is buttering their bread, because neither side is. With world news, they tend to be a little biased, not either right or left, but just self-centered -- they report things in a way to make themselves look good. Huh, whoda thunk it, right?

For other unbiased sources, I recommend AP and Reuters.



I said that in direct respond to "Absolutely," who had said "Stop acting like it wasn't Antifa."

It wasn't Antifa. We have real-time footage of the people who broke in. Some of them even streamed live onto social media while they were breaking in. Authorities had been tracking the web with their comments. They had been planning this coup for weeks. They said they were going to do it, and they did it. It wasn't Antifa. It was extreme right-wing groups like The Proud Boys and Neo-Nazis. This is not mainstream Republicans or mainstream conservativism. This is extremism.

Freedom of Speech has limits. You can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. You can joke about causing harm to the President. And you can't attempt to overthrow the government. What those people did was treason, and it should not be tolerated.

If mainstream Republicans want to be seen as "not on the same field" as right-wing extremists, then they should be much more vocal and vehement about their denouncement against Trump and his followers and what they did. Otherwise, they're going to start looking more and more like the extremists themselves.

In other words, quit preaching to me about how different you are from extremists. Just show me. Prove it to me with your actions, and denounce Trump and his followers.

If you can't do that, then maybe you're not all that different.

What we are seeing in the USA is absolutely shameful.

As Christians we should be looking for evidenced based information and they are a lot of good experts who have tremendous integrity and might not be my kind of Christian BUT that doesn't give me the right to CLAIM I am the only right kind of Christian... how dare I judge the soul of another human being as the only true judge is Jesus!! But God has said their fruits will give me the discernment I need to choose wisely. Please note God's image in all of us as HE is our creator.

So just because someone claims to be a christian and supports all the policies I like but their fruit and character says otherwise there must be a warning bell in my mind. WORDS MATTER as it leads to thoughts and then actions and habits and CHARACTER.