Do you wish all human can be saved?
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Yes,if missing one seems as few. You are the one who thinks can't be saved. Jesus said that he would rather save this one than save so much. He would rather save so much than save this one.
If you're not convinced, Pls study the Bible well. Don't be angry here.
If what I said makes you angry, I apologize to you.But I won't give in.
If you're not convinced, Pls study the Bible well. Don't be angry here.
If what I said makes you angry, I apologize to you.But I won't give in.
When God created living things, He created them fully grown with the ability to procreate and with their offsprings having the same characteristics. When Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they followed their own will and not God's. This propensity to follow one's will ( which is motivated by the heart) and not God's is handed down to all descendants of Adam and Eve. That is why we are all born in sin (sin nature). We are all headed towards the garbage heap as soon as we are born. The consequence of sin is death. That is God's justice since in God's perfect kingdom their can be no sin.
God knew in advance that He was going to implement a plan of redemption for his fallen creation that would include a perfect manifestation of His justice and a perfect expression of His love and mercy. The choices for God are: 1) Let justice prevail and all humans go to hell, or 2) all humans get saved, or 3) some humans get saved. If He doesn't save anyone, then He would be without mercy. If He saves everyone, then the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized. The only solution is for Him to save a few.
God knew in advance that He was going to implement a plan of redemption for his fallen creation that would include a perfect manifestation of His justice and a perfect expression of His love and mercy. The choices for God are: 1) Let justice prevail and all humans go to hell, or 2) all humans get saved, or 3) some humans get saved. If He doesn't save anyone, then He would be without mercy. If He saves everyone, then the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized. The only solution is for Him to save a few.
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Your last part is more interesting. I like interesting souls.
You think God has three choices，
1) Let justice prevail and all humans go to hell
2) all humans get saved
3) some humans get saved.
and you think If He doesn't save anyone, then He would be without mercy. If He saves everyone, then the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
Then god pls allow me to say so,
Adam and Eve obeyed their own will to eat the tree of knowledge of good and evil.right?
Why didn't God force them only to eat the tree of life?so god is not a dictator,right?
Is it a dictator if God only saves some people and does not save others and Suppose God punishes the unsaved by force of power,why not force them to believe?If this counts as the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
The only solution is for Him to save all.
(sorry, I am just kidding.)
What I really mean is that sin does harm to people,what if all people will forgive all others sin,as a believer should forgive others who sin to you,right?
forgiveness is justice in god's kingdom.
in other words,
So for those who don't believe in God.Why should justice be done for them? They're all dead anyway，unsaved anyway. the justice of forgiveness should not be done for them,even any justice in god's kingdom.
Their grievances cannot be vindicated ,and they can't sue others for their crimes,when they sue others will falling from sky.
If this counts as the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
The only solution is for creator to save all.
You think God has three choices，
1) Let justice prevail and all humans go to hell
2) all humans get saved
3) some humans get saved.
and you think If He doesn't save anyone, then He would be without mercy. If He saves everyone, then the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
Then god pls allow me to say so,
Adam and Eve obeyed their own will to eat the tree of knowledge of good and evil.right?
Why didn't God force them only to eat the tree of life?so god is not a dictator,right?
Is it a dictator if God only saves some people and does not save others and Suppose God punishes the unsaved by force of power,why not force them to believe?If this counts as the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
The only solution is for Him to save all.
(sorry, I am just kidding.)
What I really mean is that sin does harm to people,what if all people will forgive all others sin,as a believer should forgive others who sin to you,right?
forgiveness is justice in god's kingdom.
in other words,
So for those who don't believe in God.Why should justice be done for them? They're all dead anyway，unsaved anyway. the justice of forgiveness should not be done for them,even any justice in god's kingdom.
Their grievances cannot be vindicated ,and they can't sue others for their crimes,when they sue others will falling from sky.
If this counts as the perfect justice which He demands in His kingdom would be jeopardized.
The only solution is for creator to save all.
nope,The red X which I gave you not about disagree.
you answed yes I wish all could be saved.and you said I hope someone unsaved at The same time,something like this.......
yes is yes, no is no.
so your thought somehow Neither yes nor no
Matthew 5:37
King James Version
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
you answed yes I wish all could be saved.and you said I hope someone unsaved at The same time,something like this.......
yes is yes, no is no.
so your thought somehow Neither yes nor no
Matthew 5:37
King James Version
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/if-god-wants-everyone-saved-why-isnt-everyone-saved.html
Romans 9 (New King James Version)
22What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Romans 9 (New King James Version)
22What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
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The elect of God are so numerous that they can not be counted, as the sand in the seashore and the stars in the heavens.
There is the visible church and there is the invisible church.
The visible church are those that have been revealed the truths of Christ's doctrine, by the revelation of the Holy Ghost, who find the straight gate that leads to that abundant, peaceful and comforting life enjoyed as they sojourn here on earth. believing that Christ died for all of his elect and that they will live in heaven.
The invisible church are those, of God's elect, that go into the wide gate, who are teaching and preaching a false doctrine of eternal salvation for all mankind that leads to a destruction of fear and discomfort, while the live here on earth, however, they will live in heaven.
Ezek 10 harmonizes with this truth.
There is the visible church and there is the invisible church.
The visible church are those that have been revealed the truths of Christ's doctrine, by the revelation of the Holy Ghost, who find the straight gate that leads to that abundant, peaceful and comforting life enjoyed as they sojourn here on earth. believing that Christ died for all of his elect and that they will live in heaven.
The invisible church are those, of God's elect, that go into the wide gate, who are teaching and preaching a false doctrine of eternal salvation for all mankind that leads to a destruction of fear and discomfort, while the live here on earth, however, they will live in heaven.
Ezek 10 harmonizes with this truth.
"the house of Israel" is not the whole nation of Israel. Rom 9:6. The house of Israel is Jacob/Israel, which is representative of God's elect, Rom 9:11. God changed Jacob's name to be no more called Jacob, but to be called Israel, Gen 33:28.
"The wicked" in Esek 33:11 is referring to the disobedient children of God. God has appointed a watchman over the house of Israel (God's elect people) to warn the disobedient to repent.
2 Pet 3:9 is conveying the same message from Peter; instructing "them that have obtained like precious faith" 2 Pet 1:1, even including himself in his warning, by using the word "usward", that God is longsuffering with them, not willing that any of them should lose their fellowship with him, by committing a sin (perish=death=separation), but that all of those that Peter was addressing would repent when they commit a sin.
If the scriptures do not harmonize, then we are misinterpreting them.
"The wicked" in Esek 33:11 is referring to the disobedient children of God. God has appointed a watchman over the house of Israel (God's elect people) to warn the disobedient to repent.
2 Pet 3:9 is conveying the same message from Peter; instructing "them that have obtained like precious faith" 2 Pet 1:1, even including himself in his warning, by using the word "usward", that God is longsuffering with them, not willing that any of them should lose their fellowship with him, by committing a sin (perish=death=separation), but that all of those that Peter was addressing would repent when they commit a sin.
If the scriptures do not harmonize, then we are misinterpreting them.
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How does the Great Commission mandate fit in with verses Matthew 7:13-14? Did Jesus-already pre determine most people will go to hell (and only few will go to heaven) in verses Matthew 7:13-14? With the Great Commission, the goal is that all will be saved, however do verses Matthew 7:13-14 already state that this goal will not be achieved?
Did Jesus say Matthew 7:13-14 before or after knowledge of his death (with came from God the Father)?
Did Jesus say Matthew 7:13-14 before or after knowledge of his death (with came from God the Father)?
I am not seeing the scriptural disharmony that you are suggesting exists here. While Ezekiel 33:11 may have been contextually directed at a specific audience, it does not remain untrue for other groups. 2 Peter 3:9 clearly states that God's will is that none should perish and that all should come to repentance.
If we are harmonizing the scriptures then there are numerous references to God not being a respector of persons regardless of someone's status as a Jew or Gentile. Let's start with this one:
Romans 2:5-10
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is no respect of persons with God.
If we are harmonizing the scriptures then there are numerous references to God not being a respector of persons regardless of someone's status as a Jew or Gentile. Let's start with this one:
Romans 2:5-10
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is no respect of persons with God.
Adam and Eve were created with a free will. With a free will comes responsibility in making choices. The tree of life apparently is for special beings who qualify to receive its fruit. Because they disobeyed, they no longer qualified and that is why they were kicked out of the garden of eden. Gen 3: 22-24