How many of you believe COVID 19 is a biological weapon?

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Is COVID 19 a biological weapon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • No

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Total voters
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The only way I might feel bad is if he swings his purse at me.

So you mean he's not married to Michelle Obama? Even you know I'm right because you felt the need to point out how his wife is a "real woman". Hahaha!

Can you seriously say that he isn't effeminate?
Probably just a California speech thing going on.
 
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ZNP

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If yes please list evidence and credible sources.

If no explain why.
The Epoch times did a wonderful story on this that explained how they knew this was a man made virus. It is has gene sequences from three different sources stitched together. It could not have come from the Wuhan fish market as a key component of this was a virus that comes from bats and they don't have bats there. They are pretty sure that the first victim of Covid19 was a woman who worked at the Wuhan bio weapons lab, she died of "pneumonia".

However, this is not evidence that it was intentionally released. It is possible that it got out due to negligence. It does explain though why the Chinese response was so swift and draconian and also why they did several things to hide this from the world for around 50 days.
 

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However, this is not evidence that it was intentionally released.
Here is evidence that indicates that the Wuhan virus was intentionally released so that many entities could make huge profits from bogus vaccines. Those who are in charge of public health policies have been part of a criminal conspiracy which no one has bothered to investigate thoroughly.

Was a COVID-19 Vaccine Developed before the First COVID-19 Case Was Discovered in America?

By Robert L. Kinney, Pharm.D., M.A.

PART I
Regardless of one's political affiliation, it goes without saying that nobody wants to be forced or otherwise deceptively coerced into accepting a vaccine that may eventually cause cancer or some other harm — especially when many, without vaccination, do not even experience symptoms from the targeted virus. It also goes without saying that many are probably familiar with the idea that corrupt persons seek government positions or use their power and influence as a way to be paid by foreign countries or big corporations. One recent example is the Bidens' apparent collusions with China and the FBI's apparent cover-up of that information before the 2020 election.

Some commentators have made the good point that physicians do not get paid nearly as much in government or public health jobs as physicians do practicing medicine in non-government positions. This, the commentators have concluded, may leave government public health employees open to outside influences.

It is not an exaggeration to suggest that COVID-19 vaccines — which currently require two doses — could quickly become trillion-dollar products; every time a "new strain" or "new variant" of SARS-CoV-2 is claimed to be discovered, a new vaccine could (wrongly) be said to be necessary. Creating the need for such a potential trillion-dollar product could result in several persons being highly compensated. It is probably wise, then, to "follow the money" and discuss those government officials who are promoting COVID-19 vaccines.

It is preferable to avoid mentioning names, but these are government public health officials who have provided the groundwork for COVID-19 vaccines, and names are required. For example, in January 2020, one of the first to publicly create COVID-19 panic in America was Dr. Nancy Messonnier — the director of the U.S. federal government's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the CDC. She uses her position at the CDC to promote vaccines. Her bio says she is "currently leading the CDC's efforts on COVID-19 vaccine." (Some probably also know her as the sister of Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general who participated in the FBI investigation of President Trump and appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel.)

So one of the first people to create COVID-19 fear in America works for the CDC to promote vaccines. It is also worth mentioning that the CDC's apparent official stance is indeed to promote COVID-19 vaccines. Of course, COVID-19 vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S. are not legally approved for marketing/advertising in the U.S.; wrongly or misleadingly claiming that the unapproved COVID-19 vaccines are "safe and effective" could be illegal labeling or advertising known as "misbranding." So the CDC cunningly promotes COVID-19 vaccination without mentioning the names of the specific still unapproved vaccines.

It is relevant to mention that the CDC has falsely overstated COVID-19 death counts. Falsely over-stating COVID-19 death counts could be used as a form of deceptive coercion to scare Americans into getting vaccinated.

Then there is Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH). Dr. Fauci is one of the most consistent U.S. federal government officials to contribute to the COVID-19 fear.

While he was promoting the COVID-19 fear, though, there were some interesting things going on with Dr. Fauci's NIAID/NIH along with Bill Gates's "Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations" (CEPI — reportedly co-founded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2017) and Moderna, a COVID-19 vaccine–maker recently given emergency use authorization by the FDA. Moderna does not have any approved products on the market (the COVID-19 vaccine is still unapproved) but set a record for the biggest biotech initial public offering in December of 2018. In a U.S. government document, Moderna wrote (emphasis added):

In collaboration with the Vaccine Research Center ("VRC") and Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases ("DMID") of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ("NIAID"), part of the National Institutes of Health ("NIH"), as well as the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations ("CEPI"), we are pursuing the rapid manufacture of a vaccine to address the current 2019-nCoV outbreak.
2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] was first identified in Wuhan, China on January 7, 2020. On January 13, 2020, the NIH and our infectious disease research team finalized the sequence for the 2019-nCoV vaccine and we mobilized toward clinical manufacture.
As of February 7, 2020, the first clinical batch, including fill and finishing of vials, is complete. This mRNA vaccine was designed and manufactured in 25 days and is undergoing analytical testing prior to release to the NIH for use in their planned Phase 1 clinical trial in the U.S.

Did you get that? The virus "2019-nCoV," which would soon be given the scarier (and more likely to lead to draconian lockdowns and vaccines) "SARS-CoV-2" name, was reportedly discovered on January 7, 2020.
By January 13, 2020, Dr. Fauci's NIAID/NIH, Bill Gates's CEPI, and Moderna already had a COVID-19 vaccine finalized. Toward the beginning of the COVID-19 panic, some commentators were mentioning Bill Gates's odd public appearances, which were used to provoke COVID-19 fear; his co-founded entity's already having co-developed a COVID-19 vaccine by that time may have something to do with that. While two of the most influential promoters of COVID-19 fear, Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates, were attempting to scare the world, entities closely associated with them already had funded and/or finalized a potentially highly profitable vaccine.

It also cannot be overlooked that Dr. Moncef Mohamed Slaoui, the U.S. federal government's chief adviser for "Operation Warp Speed" (the quick development of COVID-19 vaccines), had (or has) financial interests in Moderna. He joined Moderna's board of directors in 2017. And it may or may not be relevant, but Dr. Slaoui was an adviser for a company started in 2018 that creates medicines for China.

Also noteworthy is that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, led by Alex Azar, another person with ties to the pharmaceutical industry that cannot be ignored, granted "liabilityimmunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against COVID-19." The action is dated March 10, 2020 but made the immunity effective on February 4, 2020 — prior to Moderna's, CEPI's, and the NIAID/NIH's completion of the first batch of COVID-19 vaccine.
 

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PART II

Finally worth noting are the stock prices of both COVID-19 vaccine–makers that were given emergency use authorization by the U.S. federal government. Pfizer's stock price has remained between approximately $27 and $42 per share in 2020. The stock price of Moderna (which, again, co-developed its COVID-19 vaccine with Dr. Fauci's and the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH as well as Bill Gates's CEPI) began 2020 at about $19 per share and went as high as $170 per share in December 2020 — a gain of about 800%.

These are two companies with similar products — but the one not developed in conjunction with the U.S. federal government and Bill Gates's CEPI did not gain even close to as much as the company that co-developed its vaccine with the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH and Bill Gates's CEPI. The above may be a big deal, or it may be inconsequential or coincidence. Either way, it sure is interesting.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...t_covid19_case_was_discovered_in_america.html
 
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PART II

Finally worth noting are the stock prices of both COVID-19 vaccine–makers that were given emergency use authorization by the U.S. federal government. Pfizer's stock price has remained between approximately $27 and $42 per share in 2020. The stock price of Moderna (which, again, co-developed its COVID-19 vaccine with Dr. Fauci's and the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH as well as Bill Gates's CEPI) began 2020 at about $19 per share and went as high as $170 per share in December 2020 — a gain of about 800%.

These are two companies with similar products — but the one not developed in conjunction with the U.S. federal government and Bill Gates's CEPI did not gain even close to as much as the company that co-developed its vaccine with the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH and Bill Gates's CEPI. The above may be a big deal, or it may be inconsequential or coincidence. Either way, it sure is interesting.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...t_covid19_case_was_discovered_in_america.html
Dumb. The whole thing. No vaccines have ever caused cancer. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has poured money into multiple companies developing a COVID 19 vaccine including building factories and preparing for mass production before approvals knowing that some of these vaccines would fail in trials but not wanting to waste time if they were successful. These many vaccine companies the BMG Foundation gave money too are not mentioned. Each point can be fact checked, I don't understand why anyone would not notice the misinformation in this article but maybe they do and hope others won't and pass it on anyway.

Also remember that your vaccine will be free. So follow the money does not really work out. Nice try.
 
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PART II

Finally worth noting are the stock prices of both COVID-19 vaccine–makers that were given emergency use authorization by the U.S. federal government. Pfizer's stock price has remained between approximately $27 and $42 per share in 2020. The stock price of Moderna (which, again, co-developed its COVID-19 vaccine with Dr. Fauci's and the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH as well as Bill Gates's CEPI) began 2020 at about $19 per share and went as high as $170 per share in December 2020 — a gain of about 800%.

These are two companies with similar products — but the one not developed in conjunction with the U.S. federal government and Bill Gates's CEPI did not gain even close to as much as the company that co-developed its vaccine with the U.S. federal government's NIAID/NIH and Bill Gates's CEPI. The above may be a big deal, or it may be inconsequential or coincidence. Either way, it sure is interesting.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...t_covid19_case_was_discovered_in_america.html
A fact check Google on "does Bill Gates profit from donations to vaccine companies" will help people learn about what is real and what is conspiracy theory. I don't know why people don't do that.

Of course vaccine company stocks will go up when they develop a successful vaccine. It is not too late to invest in some of these.
 

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If Covid19 was intentionally released the goal was not merely to change the US election (I am in Washington DC to stand with those praying about this election fraud) but it is also to do a great reset. Europe just passed a deal to become partners with China. If the US $ were to collapse (a plausible result of this pandemic) it would open the door to a digital currency.

There are two kinds of governments on earth, one is a free market system in the US and the other is the totalitarian regime we see in China. Every regime on earth is pulled between these two forces. Totalitarian regimes are unsustainable and horrible for the vast majority of the people. But those people are not in charge. Totalitarian regimes are much better for those in charge (until the collapse). The bigger the monopoly the better it is. So although common sense would argue that the US economy is best for the majority of people it is not best for the leaders of totalitarian regimes and multinational corporations.

Over the last twenty years many of the policies in the US have been devastating to half the country. Detroit was turned into something from the worst of the third world. Chicago streets are overrun with gang violence. Gangs are seizing blocks of territory in cities on the West coast. Yet during this same time Pelosi has amassed a fortune of over $200 million. It has been very good to Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Pelosi.
 

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If Covid19 was intentionally released the goal was not merely to change the US election (I am in Washington DC to stand with those praying about this election fraud) but it is also to do a great reset. Europe just passed a deal to become partners with China. If the US $ were to collapse (a plausible result of this pandemic) it would open the door to a digital currency.

There are two kinds of governments on earth, one is a free market system in the US and the other is the totalitarian regime we see in China. Every regime on earth is pulled between these two forces. Totalitarian regimes are unsustainable and horrible for the vast majority of the people. But those people are not in charge. Totalitarian regimes are much better for those in charge (until the collapse). The bigger the monopoly the better it is. So although common sense would argue that the US economy is best for the majority of people it is not best for the leaders of totalitarian regimes and multinational corporations.

Over the last twenty years many of the policies in the US have been devastating to half the country. Detroit was turned into something from the worst of the third world. Chicago streets are overrun with gang violence. Gangs are seizing blocks of territory in cities on the West coast. Yet during this same time Pelosi has amassed a fortune of over $200 million. It has been very good to Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Pelosi.
If the free market system is unregulated, then many suffer as a result. Outsourcing is a prime example.
 

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Dumb. The whole thing. No vaccines have ever caused cancer. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has poured money into multiple companies developing a COVID 19 vaccine including building factories and preparing for mass production before approvals knowing that some of these vaccines would fail in trials but not wanting to waste time if they were successful. These many vaccine companies the BMG Foundation gave money too are not mentioned. Each point can be fact checked, I don't understand why anyone would not notice the misinformation in this article but maybe they do and hope others won't and pass it on anyway.

Also remember that your vaccine will be free. So follow the money does not really work out. Nice try.
you mean the same bill gates that said we ' need to get carbon emissions and population rate down to near 0" at ted talks??

the same bill gates that questioned if it would not be better to train and hire more educators than to spend that money on the last months of a elderly person's life??

yep, he certainly seems to have humanity's best interests in mind...
 
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you mean the same bill gates that said we ' need to get carbon emissions and population rate down to near 0" at ted talks??

the same bill gates that questioned if it would not be better to train and hire more educators than to spend that money on the last months of a elderly person's life??

yep, he certainly seems to have humanity's best interests in mind...
I don't know what he has said. But the money that is being given to support the development of vaccines is given to many companies and they are all trying to win the war against the virus. They are being given money to produce the vaccine. They are giving it to people at no cost because they have are being paid by those that are funding the war against the vaccine. Bill and Melinda Gates have contributed but many others have also but they don't fit into a good conspiracy theory so their millions and billions are being ignored by the conspiracy theory weavers. The US goverment is also one of the largest contributers and is paid in advance for dosages that might have had to been destroyed if issues were discovered in trials or even do date, the money has already been given to the developers, and your vaccine will be free. Follow the money leads to what looks like a war time effort similar to WWII and the unselfish sacrifices made to defeat Hitler and Japan. In this case COVID 19. AMERICA IS GREAT
 

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" i do not know what he said"

i stopped reading right there.
 

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I dont believe its a biological weapon but certain Governments can and are using it as an excuse to control their populations to acertain extent and I think it could get worse.
 
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you mean the same bill gates that said we ' need to get carbon emissions and population rate down to near 0" at ted talks??

the same bill gates that questioned if it would not be better to train and hire more educators than to spend that money on the last months of a elderly person's life??

yep, he certainly seems to have humanity's best interests in mind...
Quoting an actual creditable source(s) would be a good idea.
 

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Quoting an actual creditable source(s) would be a good idea.

1. go to youtube.

2. type in " bill gates ted talk depopulation ".

3. watch multiple videos of him saying just what i said he did,
 
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1. go to youtube.

2. type in " bill gates ted talk depopulation ".

3. watch multiple videos of him saying just what i said he did,
He said credible.

1 Go to Google,
2 Type "bill gates ted talk depopulation"
3 Check out numerous fact checking sits and posts showing how the videos don't show his full explanation. But watch one of the videos or read the full transcripts were he had previously explained his views that families that have many children in Africa because they do not expect some of them to reach adulthood due to childhood diseases like malaria will have fewer children if they know that because of vaccines their kids wont die. But the Youtube videos leave that explanation out. Now wouldn't that make them "not credible?"
And if his explanation does not change your mind then why leave his explanation out of the video and the false accusations?
Why not include his explanation if you don't think it matters? Is it because you don't want people to hear his explanation because it might make them think that the youtube video creators were liars?
 

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He said credible.

1 Go to Google,
2 Type "bill gates ted talk depopulation"
3 Check out numerous fact checking sits and posts showing how the videos don't show his full explanation. But watch one of the videos or read the full transcripts were he had previously explained his views that families that have many children in Africa because they do not expect some of them to reach adulthood due to childhood diseases like malaria will have fewer children if they know that because of vaccines their kids wont die. But the Youtube videos leave that explanation out. Now wouldn't that make them "not credible?"
And if his explanation does not change your mind then why leave his explanation out of the video and the false accusations?
Why not include his explanation if you don't think it matters? Is it because you don't want people to hear his explanation because it might make them think that the youtube video creators were liars?

ah, so it is o.k to talk about population control if is africans,... o.k. got it.

and, how about his statements on getting carbon and population growth down to zero??

is that just for africa or is it all inclusive??
 
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ah, so it is o.k to talk about population control if is africans,... o.k. got it.

and, how about his statements on getting carbon and population growth down to zero??

is that just for africa or is it all inclusive??
Just google it.
 

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Guesses: Not every bat carries it. Maybe it mutated after the first transfer to human to become more contagious from human to human. Maybe it was a live bat that it came from through a bat sneeze. I'm just brainstorming here. Work with me...
Chicken borne virus... How many centuries has man been eating chickens? The H5NI bird flu that emerged in Hong Kong, China in 1997 led to the killing of millions of chickens to eliminate the virus. But the outbreaks happened again between 2003 and 2009 outside of China, which indicates that the virus has never been fully eliminated, so there is a possibility of the outbreak occurring again. And what about pigs? Those swine! H1N1 swine flu caused a pandemic in 2009. How long have men been eating pigs? Thousands of years...