ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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saintrose

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I began researching this when I came upon a blog and Christians were warning of forced vaccinations. So I looked it up and found some people who say that the vaccine may indeed be the Mark of the Beast. Satan is the great deceiver - can he deceive people into taking the mark?

 

saintrose

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I knew the vaccine was evil but several pastors have come out and spoken against it. This pastor said "do not take it! It is from the PIT OF HELL."

 

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No. Our heavenly father will not allow his children to be deceived in this way. The mark will be something that is chosen. This fear mongering treats God like he is weak. He is the great I Am and no force will separate Him from those who are his.
 

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Yeah, the Mark will be a choice.
A vaccine is something a parent would give a child and they would have no choice, which means the Mark can't be a vaccine or many innocent children will be lost (Revelation 14:9-10).
But I do think the masks and vaccine is a prelude to forcing something more sinister. These are tests to see how much we'll comply.
 
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You know... I've had similar thoughts. We would be required to get this vaccine to leave our home (aka buy and sell). It's really scary. It's really scary that Christians would so eagerly accept being locked in their own homes for an indefinite period of time. That people would be so eager to throw away their freedom.

So many churches around here are terrified to meet. Even with any sort of loosening of restrictions. But God said it is not good that we are alone. That we are meant to be together.

It makes me think that something Satanic is going on, and that this isn't a "natural" issue, but something of a deeply spiritual, and Satanic, issue.
 

Ahwatukee

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I began researching this when I came upon a blog and Christians were warning of forced vaccinations. So I looked it up and found some people who say that the vaccine may indeed be the Mark of the Beast. Satan is the great deceiver - can he deceive people into taking the mark?

Hi Saintrose!

Regarding this issue, just like every Biblical issue, we must look to the context and other related scriptures to establish a conclusion. That said, let's look at the scripture:

"He also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name."

So, according to the scripture, the mark is to go on/in the right hand or forehead. And without that mark no one will be able to buy or sell. Based on this, we can see that vaccinations have nothing to do with the mark.

Putting the mark into perspective in that, buying and selling would be electronic crediting and debiting. Th world has been moving towards a cashless society in preparation for that coming antichrist/beast and his mark.

Somewhere during the middle of that last seven years, all methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, with the mark as the only way of crediting and debiting ones bank account. Therefore, Satan will not have to deceive people into taking the mark. Since it will be the only way of crediting and debiting ones bank account, then each person will have to make the choice to receive it or reject it. According to Rev.14:9-12, we know what the consequences are for those who receive it. To be clear, without the mark, no one will be able to pay their mortgages, rents, utilities, food, gas and everything else. So it will be a choice of losing ones eternal life by receiving the mark or saving their eternal life by rejecting the mark and keeping their testimony of Jesus and the word of God.

The mark is going to be something that will go in/on the hand or forehead that will replace card swiping, cell phone bank apps and fobs. By making all the others invalid, the mark will be the only way to perform any kind of financial transactions. Check out these secular videos regarding the evolving mark of the beast technology:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
 
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God isn't a trickster. A father doing what he believes is right as a provider is going to hell for it? No. Receiving the mark of the beast will be damnable because it will be a rejection of our God in full knowledge and freedom.
 

Ahwatukee

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God isn't a trickster. A father doing what he believes is right as a provider is going to hell for it? No. Receiving the mark of the beast will be damnable because it will be a rejection of our God in full knowledge and freedom.
I'm sure there will be many during that time who will reason with themselves saying, "God knows that I need to feed my family." But make no mistake, that will not exclude them from the consequences of receiving that mark. God has made it very clear what the results will be for those who worship the beast, his image or receive his mark, with no exceptions. In fact an angel will fly through the air during that time announcing the consequences in every language on the earth. So, there will be no excuses.

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A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on their forehead or on their hand, they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.”
 
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I knew the vaccine was evil but several pastors have come out and spoken against it. This pastor said "do not take it! It is from the PIT OF HELL."

Neither the virus nor the vaccine is from hell.

Viruses are from the corruption that came into nature when sin came into creation from Adams fall.

The vaccine is an attempt to Subdue and take dominion over hostile things in nature. (Gen 2) We believe we have the responsibility to take dominion and subdue, lions, tigers and bears, and not let them eat our children. We also have the responsibility to subdue hostile life forms like viruses that are very tiny and are intent on infecting our cells. God has given us the knowledge to defeat them and test the vaccines for safety. Once documented, tested and approved, we can take the vaccine and it helps our own immune system defeat the virus. This is reason to give God praise for giving us a solution that is safe and effective in defeating a deadly virus.

Now if satan and his demons (pit of hell) is involved in this it would be to tell people crazy lies that it is unsafe, or will track them, or give them the mark of the beast, hoping that such misinformation would make them not take the vaccine so that if they do get the virus, that they just might be one of the ones who go critical ill for a month or more and die of pneumonia.

You see (the pit of hell) or satan and his demons want to kill you. If they were not held back by chains of darkness so that they are not able to cross over into the physical realm but have to use influences we would already be dead. But satan has to use people to do stupid things such as kill one another or tell people to not take a vaccine and thereby result in your death.

Now That would be from the pit of hell. And that antivaxxer is the tool of satan and on the way to the Lake of Fire for being a liar. Especially if they know they are lying but do it anyway and the kind of insane things that are being said about the vaccine from antivaxxers can only be said by someone who is either clinically insane or a willful wicked liar from the pit of hell.

So if you want to warn your brothers and sisters, please warn them not to be a willful liar and not to be ignorant and believe a belligerent idiot on a youtube rant instead of reading over the scientific data being published by the developers and the observers of the development of the vaccines and the safety testing of 40,000 volunteers for each vaccine. Ignoring that data and making up lies is a sin. And all liars will have their part IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. That is what you should warn them of. Get your head right people.
 

saintrose

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No. Our heavenly father will not allow his children to be deceived in this way. The mark will be something that is chosen. This fear mongering treats God like he is weak. He is the great I Am and no force will separate Him from those who are his.
We were FOREWARNED that if possible even the elect would be deceived. I think God expects us to use our brains. That's what He gave us it for.
 

saintrose

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Yeah, the Mark will be a choice.
A vaccine is something a parent would give a child and they would have no choice, which means the Mark can't be a vaccine or many innocent children will be lost (Revelation 14:9-10).
But I do think the masks and vaccine is a prelude to forcing something more sinister. These are tests to see how much we'll comply.
Not necessarily. Parents don't have to Vaccinate - and the more I learn the less I believe in ANY vaccines. I read that it came from the Jesuits - the poison needle.

I agree with you: I think this is a test to see how far they can push the American people. I think it's important to show them they can't through whatever means we have available. Your body is your own. No one can force a vaccine on you. Keep that firmly in your mind. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
 

saintrose

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You know... I've had similar thoughts. We would be required to get this vaccine to leave our home (aka buy and sell). It's really scary. It's really scary that Christians would so eagerly accept being locked in their own homes for an indefinite period of time. That people would be so eager to throw away their freedom.

So many churches around here are terrified to meet. Even with any sort of loosening of restrictions. But God said it is not good that we are alone. That we are meant to be together.

It makes me think that something Satanic is going on, and that this isn't a "natural" issue, but something of a deeply spiritual, and Satanic, issue.
Exactly. That's what I began thinking. Gates (whose wife wears an upside down cross) said something to the effect of requiring a vaccine to buy anything.

I began looking into it and saw that several pastors thought it could be the Mark of the Beast. Then I remembered all I'd ever known about Belial - that he's a scheming, deceptive, cunning liar. So I thought maybe this IS a sneaky backhanded way to force the Mark on us.

All of this is a test: how submissive are we going to be. I talked with a pastor who had the cops called on him 3 times for not wearing a mask. I've deliberately gone into stores and pulled the mask off. I've seen others do it too. We have to take a stand folks. Evil is gaining the upper hand unless we grow a backbone.

We went to church Sunday and the pastor didn't wear a mask, nor did anyone in the choir. I took the mask off during the service and no one said a word. We all know this is a SIMPLE FLU VIRUS BEING BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT THAT SOMETHING SATANIC HAS BEEN GOING ON. THAT IS GOD SPEAKING THROUGH YOUR SPIRIT.
 

saintrose

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Hi Saintrose!

Regarding this issue, just like every Biblical issue, we must look to the context and other related scriptures to establish a conclusion. That said, let's look at the scripture:

"He also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name."

So, according to the scripture, the mark is to go on/in the right hand or forehead. And without that mark no one will be able to buy or sell. Based on this, we can see that vaccinations have nothing to do with the mark.

Putting the mark into perspective in that, buying and selling would be electronic crediting and debiting. Th world has been moving towards a cashless society in preparation for that coming antichrist/beast and his mark.

Somewhere during the middle of that last seven years, all methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, with the mark as the only way of crediting and debiting ones bank account. Therefore, Satan will not have to deceive people into taking the mark. Since it will be the only way of crediting and debiting ones bank account, then each person will have to make the choice to receive it or reject it. According to Rev.14:9-12, we know what the consequences are for those who receive it. To be clear, without the mark, no one will be able to pay their mortgages, rents, utilities, food, gas and everything else. So it will be a choice of losing ones eternal life by receiving the mark or saving their eternal life by rejecting the mark and keeping their testimony of Jesus and the word of God.

The mark is going to be something that will go in/on the hand or forehead that will replace card swiping, cell phone bank apps and fobs. By making all the others invalid, the mark will be the only way to perform any kind of financial transactions. Check out these secular videos regarding the evolving mark of the beast technology:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
I'm not so sure. I read another author who broke it down and went through the Greek translations (I have to find it - I read a lot) but he claimed that the vaccine could indeed be the Mark of the Beast. What I know of Satan after having him attack me for many years: he is cunning and we have to be on guard. I'm just reserving judgement for now and staying on my toes and I hope you all do the same.
 

saintrose

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Neither the virus nor the vaccine is from hell.

Viruses are from the corruption that came into nature when sin came into creation from Adams fall.

The vaccine is an attempt to Subdue and take dominion over hostile things in nature. (Gen 2) We believe we have the responsibility to take dominion and subdue, lions, tigers and bears, and not let them eat our children. We also have the responsibility to subdue hostile life forms like viruses that are very tiny and are intent on infecting our cells. God has given us the knowledge to defeat them and test the vaccines for safety. Once documented, tested and approved, we can take the vaccine and it helps our own immune system defeat the virus. This is reason to give God praise for giving us a solution that is safe and effective in defeating a deadly virus.

Now if satan and his demons (pit of hell) is involved in this it would be to tell people crazy lies that it is unsafe, or will track them, or give them the mark of the beast, hoping that such misinformation would make them not take the vaccine so that if they do get the virus, that they just might be one of the ones who go critical ill for a month or more and die of pneumonia.

You see (the pit of hell) or satan and his demons want to kill you. If they were not held back by chains of darkness so that they are not able to cross over into the physical realm but have to use influences we would already be dead. But satan has to use people to do stupid things such as kill one another or tell people to not take a vaccine and thereby result in your death.

Now That would be from the pit of hell. And that antivaxxer is the tool of satan and on the way to the Lake of Fire for being a liar. Especially if they know they are lying but do it anyway and the kind of insane things that are being said about the vaccine from antivaxxers can only be said by someone who is either clinically insane or a willful wicked liar from the pit of hell.

So if you want to warn your brothers and sisters, please warn them not to be a willful liar and not to be ignorant and believe a belligerent idiot on a youtube rant instead of reading over the scientific data being published by the developers and the observers of the development of the vaccines and the safety testing of 40,000 volunteers for each vaccine. Ignoring that data and making up lies is a sin. And all liars will have their part IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. That is what you should warn them of. Get your head right people.
Spoken like a true salesman. Is your last name Rockefeller by any chance?
 

Billyd

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Neither the virus nor the vaccine is from hell.

Viruses are from the corruption that came into nature when sin came into creation from Adams fall.

The vaccine is an attempt to Subdue and take dominion over hostile things in nature. (Gen 2) We believe we have the responsibility to take dominion and subdue, lions, tigers and bears, and not let them eat our children. We also have the responsibility to subdue hostile life forms like viruses that are very tiny and are intent on infecting our cells. God has given us the knowledge to defeat them and test the vaccines for safety. Once documented, tested and approved, we can take the vaccine and it helps our own immune system defeat the virus. This is reason to give God praise for giving us a solution that is safe and effective in defeating a deadly virus.

Now if satan and his demons (pit of hell) is involved in this it would be to tell people crazy lies that it is unsafe, or will track them, or give them the mark of the beast, hoping that such misinformation would make them not take the vaccine so that if they do get the virus, that they just might be one of the ones who go critical ill for a month or more and die of pneumonia.

You see (the pit of hell) or satan and his demons want to kill you. If they were not held back by chains of darkness so that they are not able to cross over into the physical realm but have to use influences we would already be dead. But satan has to use people to do stupid things such as kill one another or tell people to not take a vaccine and thereby result in your death.

Now That would be from the pit of hell. And that antivaxxer is the tool of satan and on the way to the Lake of Fire for being a liar. Especially if they know they are lying but do it anyway and the kind of insane things that are being said about the vaccine from antivaxxers can only be said by someone who is either clinically insane or a willful wicked liar from the pit of hell.

So if you want to warn your brothers and sisters, please warn them not to be a willful liar and not to be ignorant and believe a belligerent idiot on a youtube rant instead of reading over the scientific data being published by the developers and the observers of the development of the vaccines and the safety testing of 40,000 volunteers for each vaccine. Ignoring that data and making up lies is a sin. And all liars will have their part IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. That is what you should warn them of. Get your head right people.
Thanks for this post. It is probably the most accurate piece of information about vaccinations that has been posted on this site. Unfortunately, the so called end of times experts here won't listen to a word of it.

I'm looking forward to the availability of vaccinations. I really miss our senior citizens who can not safely attend church.
 
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We were FOREWARNED that if possible even the elect would be deceived. I think God expects us to use our brains. That's what He gave us it for.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

This has nothing to do with vaccines to defeat viruses and it is dishonest with God's Word to apply it to people who are vaccinated.
No immunologist, virologist, doctor, scientist, or person with a 10th grade reading skill comprehension level things that a vaccine is a miracle or sign or wonder. People with brains understand how it works by reading about the information published and made available to the public. Testing is done on 30,000 - 40,000 people to make sure it is safe without any harmful side effects. People use their brains to develop and test and document vaccines and people with brains can research the data and know what they are taking if they chose to take the vaccine.
Listening to liars on a youtube is not using your brain. It is being an emotionally swayed brainless twit. Don't be that guy or girl.
 
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Spoken like a true salesman. Is your last name Rockefeller by any chance?
Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. "Any reasonable argument that cannot be refuted must be part of the conspiracy" The "fingers in the ears syndrome"
 

Ahwatukee

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I'm not so sure. I read another author who broke it down and went through the Greek translations (I have to find it - I read a lot) but he claimed that the vaccine could indeed be the Mark of the Beast. What I know of Satan after having him attack me for many years: he is cunning and we have to be on guard. I'm just reserving judgement for now and staying on my toes and I hope you all do the same.
Well, this is not a case of Greek translations, but about the plain context. This claim of the vaccine being the mark of the beast is just another erroneous teaching, as it does not match up with scripture. Let's look at it again and break it down.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

From Rev.13:1-10, the fist beast/antichrist is in view. Then in verses 11 thru 17, we are introduced to a second beast, which is later referred to as 'the false prophet.' It is this second beast who is the one causes all people to receive that mark, which is defined as:

HELPS Word-studies
5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.

5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").

* Goes in/on the right hand or forehead

* Without it, no one will be able to buy or sell

A vaccine is a one time injection and is not specific to being received in the right hand or forehead. In fact I would go so far as to say that, the hand or forehead is not a common area to receive vaccinations, but is usually the shoulder, the thigh or some other meatier part of the body. Suffice to say, receiving a vaccine would be a one-time application where the fluid disperses into the body to build up resistance to, in this case, the corona virus. Where this coming mark will remain in/on the hand or forehead.

For those who receive the mark, it will be a permanent device located in the hand or the forehead, which will allow people to digitally access their bank accounts (just like with the debit card) to credit and debit their bank accounts. To put buying and selling in perspective for today, it would be referring to electronic crediting and debiting, which is what most of the world is now using. This mark is eventually going to replace the swiping of debit/credit cards, so that the individual can perform buying and selling with the scan of that mark.

This is why I sent you those videos of what is already taking place. This is the technology for the coming mark. Currently, an RFID chip is what is being inserted under the skin between the thumb and the index finger. I believe this technology will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable as the time period of the beast draws nearer. The fact is that, people in Sweden have already been receiving this device in the hand and are using it to make their purchases (buying).

There is another erroneous teaching of the mark by the Seventh Day Adventists, who interpret the mark allegorically. They claim that the forehead means 'making a decision' and the hand 'taking action,' so that the mark of the beast becomes making the decision to observe the Sabbath day on Sunday. However, there is nothing in the context that would lead the reader to look for a symbolic meaning of the mark, not does the keeping of the Sabbath have anything to do with being able to buy and sell. In fact, the word Sabbath does not even appear anywhere in the book of Revelation.

You of course are free to believe what you want about this subject, but I wanted to give you some clarity to this prophecy. Receiving or not receiving a vaccine just does not fit the scripture. For example, if one does not receive the vaccine, it will not keep them from buying or selling.
 
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Well, this is not a case of Greek translations, but about the plain context. This claim of the vaccine being the mark of the beast is just another erroneous teaching, as it does not match up with scripture. Let's look at it again and break it down.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

From Rev.13:1-10, the fist beast/antichrist is in view. Then in verses 11 thru 17, we are introduced to a second beast, which is later referred to as 'the false prophet.' It is this second beast who is the one causes all people to receive that mark, which is defined as:

HELPS Word-studies
5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.

5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").

* Goes in/on the right hand or forehead

* Without it, no one will be able to buy or sell

A vaccine is a one time injection and is not specific to being received in the right hand or forehead. In fact I would go so far as to say that, the hand or forehead is not a common area to receive vaccinations, but is usually the shoulder, the thigh or some other meatier part of the body. Suffice to say, receiving a vaccine would be a one-time application where the fluid disperses into the body to build up resistance to, in this case, the corona virus. Where this coming mark will remain in/on the hand or forehead.

For those who receive the mark, it will be a permanent device located in the hand or the forehead, which will allow people to digitally access their bank accounts (just like with the debit card) to credit and debit their bank accounts. To put buying and selling in perspective for today, it would be referring to electronic crediting and debiting, which is what most of the world is now using. This mark is eventually going to replace the swiping of debit/credit cards, so that the individual can perform buying and selling with the scan of that mark.

This is why I sent you those videos of what is already taking place. This is the technology for the coming mark. Currently, an RFID chip is what is being inserted under the skin between the thumb and the index finger. I believe this technology will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable as the time period of the beast draws nearer. The fact is that, people in Sweden have already been receiving this device in the hand and are using it to make their purchases (buying).

There is another erroneous teaching of the mark by the Seventh Day Adventists, who interpret the mark allegorically. They claim that the forehead means 'making a decision' and the hand 'taking action,' so that the mark of the beast becomes making the decision to observe the Sabbath day on Sunday. However, there is nothing in the context that would lead the reader to look for a symbolic meaning of the mark, not does the keeping of the Sabbath have anything to do with being able to buy and sell. In fact, the word Sabbath does not even appear anywhere in the book of Revelation.

You of course are free to believe what you want about this subject, but I wanted to give you some clarity to this prophecy. Receiving or not receiving a vaccine just does not fit the scripture. For example, if one does not receive the vaccine, it will not keep them from buying or selling.
Good post. We must continue to be patient with all people even if we don't think anyone is paying attention.
 
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