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He's going to fail. Some of his nut case cult members try and start a civil war. Even FOX seems to have given up. Aside COVID19 he might be Americas greatest threat since Hitler. I don't, never have liked Slow Joe Biden.

Fags don't need more rights and abortion is murder. The virus has already infected over 11 million Americans and killed about a quarter million. Ignoring it is murder too! I bet a months retirement that Punkin' Head tries to take credit for the Vaccine. That it ,wasn't him but Pfizer developed. I'll also double down that, he will blame somebody else if it backfires. He confabulates then acts as if he's telling the truth. If he believes it he's nuts, Otherwise he's a liar.

This country is already frightenly over our heads in debt. Unemployment, stimulus checks, welfare, Medi-Cade, VA, food stamps, AFDC... It's going to go exponential very soon. Lets do a little 9th grade (in the 60's) math. If every body that catches it, only spreads it to 2 people, Let's see' ... 1+1 = 2, 2 x2 = 4, 4 x 2 x 2= 32. Stop here. 1+ 2+4+32=39 cases in only 4 graduations since 1+1. How much money can that cost? What don't you Trumpsters get it?

We need a plan and Trump seems like an Ostridge with his head stuck in the sand, (Or somewhere else). Punkin' Head is more worried about winning and losing than he is about public health or workable economics.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Just like the mess that FDR was passed on to by the former administration in 1933. The New Deal didn't break the nation, it saved us.
"We need a plan and Trump seems like an Ostridge ....."

Ok tell me what trump could have done.

Then tell me the Biden wisdom
 

calibob

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Bob....Are you aware that the entire nation Switzerland is utterly ignoring the virus hoax?
All businesses open. No masks. No social distancing. The latest report is that 1% of the population caught COVID in one week.

What are the results? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They're treating it there like the common winter flu that it more or less is. Yes it is a threat to the elderly, and those who are already ill.
But the sane conservative Swiss are not handicapped. Not given over to hysteria nor suffer massive MSM propaganda, nor are they rife with communist insurrectionists and seditionist in high office. They are still a free nation with free people, where the people rule. Study their form of government and find out that this is true. In Switzerland it is the people who ultimately rule.

These unconstitutional lockdowns are unwarranted and must be stopped immediately. And as you well know Biden's plan is to have a total lockdown.......For who knows how long. But long enough to completely destroy the economy which is what he is planning on doing ultimately.

Joe Biden is a bought and paid for CCP asset and deep state meat puppet. Wake up buddy.
The Virus hoax? Are you in denial or do you know you're lying? A fellow tenant, the land lady's father and two people across the street died from covid 19. It's real!
 

Dude653

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Time will tell. I am going to believe what my eyes see and what the evidence tells me and I am not seeing anything indicating mass fraud.
Right the only "evidence," is anecdotal
"I know a guy who knows another guy who saw something'
 

cv5

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The Virus hoax? Are you in denial or do you know you're lying? A fellow tenant, the land lady's father and two people across the street died from covid 19. It's real!
Bob find out about John MacArthur and Grace Community Church. MacArthur filed a lawsuit and won because the state of California was violating their 1st Amendment rights. Long story short at MacArthur's church, there are no masks no social distancing no restrictions no limitations no prophylactics no nothing. You would think that would be people walking in the front door and coffins walking out the back door.

Guess what Bob? Crickets. Zero impact zero negative effects. Not a health cataclysm, not a health crisis, not a health anything. I have not heard any reports of illnesses or deaths at the Church.

Go on YouTube and find out for yourself.

You should also find out about how the hospitals are faking their death certificates calling it COVID when it isn't. Because they get paid more if it's labeled a COVID death.
 
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EleventhHour

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Bob....Are you aware that the entire nation Switzerland is utterly ignoring the virus hoax?
All businesses open. No masks. No social distancing. The latest report is that 1% of the population caught COVID in one week.

What are the results? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They're treating it there like the common winter flu that it more or less is. Yes it is a threat to the elderly, and those who are already ill.
But the sane conservative Swiss are not handicapped. Not given over to hysteria nor suffer massive MSM propaganda, nor are they rife with communist insurrectionists and seditionist in high office. They are still a free nation with free people, where the people rule. Study their form of government and find out that this is true. In Switzerland it is the people who ultimately rule.

These unconstitutional lockdowns are unwarranted and must be stopped immediately. And as you well know Biden's plan is to have a total lockdown.......For who knows how long. But long enough to completely destroy the economy which is what he is planning on doing ultimately.

Joe Biden is a bought and paid for CCP asset and deep state meat puppet. Wake up buddy.

This is riddled with falsehood.

@posthuman called it exactly right where you are concerned.

From Thursday, October 29th, masks will be required in indoor and outdoor spaces across Switzerland, meaning this guide is now out of date. Here's what you need to know about the rules which apply as of end October 2020.
Source
 
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EleventhHour

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You might want to re-check the news on Switzerland.
This is just bizarre and tragic, the outright lies .. yet how else does not one support a false narrative except with falsehood.
 
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The Virus hoax? Are you in denial or do you know you're lying? A fellow tenant, the land lady's father and two people across the street died from covid 19. It's real!
Some people live in alternate worlds... or something. :unsure:
 

calibob

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#29
Bob find out about John MacArthur and Grace Community Church. MacArthur filed a lawsuit and won because the state of California was violating their 1st Amendment rights. Long story short at MacArthur's church, there are no masks no social distancing no restrictions no limitations no prophylactics no nothing. You would think that would be people walking in the front door and coffins walking out the back door.

Guess what Bob? Crickets. Zero impact zero negative effects. Not a health cataclysm, not a health crisis, not a health anything. I have not heard any reports of illnesses or deaths at the Church.

Go on YouTube and find out for yourself.

You should also find out about how the hospitals are faking their death certificates calling it COVID when it isn't. Because they get paid more if it's labeled a COVID death.
I don't care what they said. It killed my former roommate and our landlady's father! Or was there a conspiracy? I believe that Lord can protect and heal when where and whom he choses. But that's a different subject.
 

breno785au

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I don't care what they said. It killed my former roommate and our landlady's father! Or was there a conspiracy? I believe that Lord can protect and heal when where and whom he choses. But that's a different subject.
To these people, It's all conspiracy until it hits them personally or someone they love, which w is what we are trying to AVOID. My brother in law in KENYA had covid, ended up in hospital on a ventilator. A colleague of mine in the US, ended up in a coma for two weeks and now requires surgery on her throat. Yet it's a fake pandemic...
 

calibob

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To these people, It's all conspiracy until it hits them personally or someone they love, which w is what we are trying to AVOID. My brother in law in KENYA had covid, ended up in hospital on a ventilator. A colleague of mine in the US, ended up in a coma for two weeks and now requires surgery on her throat. Yet it's a fake pandemic...
Thanks for your support, I appreciate it.
 

cv5

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This is riddled with falsehood.

@posthuman called it exactly right where you are concerned.

From Thursday, October 29th, masks will be required in indoor and outdoor spaces across Switzerland, meaning this guide is now out of date. Here's what you need to know about the rules which apply as of end October 2020.
Source
That's the latest information so that's new to me. By the way for Switzerland the death rate per population since the beginning of COVID is now.....0.035%. No doubt this is heavily heavily weighted toward the elderly.....who would've died of something else anyway. So you would assume that the death rate for healthy adults is a tiny tiny percent of that. For children it is even less. The case fatality rate for healthy adults and children is not much worse than the standard flu......MAYBE DOUBLE AT WORST.....0.2% perhaps.

Everything I'm reading indicates that this is true....COVID is perhaps twice is deadly is the flu for the young and healthy population....the people who go to school and working adults.
People who contribute to the economy in other words. Furthermore according to what I understand that there has not been one single PROVEN case of child to teacher transmission of COVID.

Nobody is going tell me that that is a massive incredible devastating pandemic. A real pandemic like the black death you would be talking something like 30 to 40% of the death of the ENTIRE population.

The 1918 Spanish flu case fatality rate can only be estimated but it seems to be 10 to 20%!
This means 3 to 6% of the global population died!
Read it for yourself below. Now THAT constitutes a real pandemic.

www.influenzavirusnet.com/1918-flu-pandemic/mortality.html

Somebody better call John MacArthur. Ask him how many people are dropping dead at his Church.

They are levering up this COVID flu hysteria to grab our civil rights. The only acceptable models are the North Dakota model and the Sweden model.....Keep the economy open until herd immunity is achieved. 24/7 cage rattling & gaslighting by the MSM Marxist mockingbird media is NOT HELPFUL...Quite the contrary.
 

Nehemiah6

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...I am not seeing anything indicating mass fraud....
You will probably keep saying this even after a mountain of evidence is put forward.

The majority of the news networks in the West are under the control of a handful of billionaires, who have made it their life's ambition to destroy democracy and freedom, and have used the media for pure propaganda for the past two decades. Hence the daily vilification of Donald Trump by the media, and at the same time the total protection of all the evildoers (Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. etc).

Also Mr. Trump should have been more than prepared for MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD since 2016 (given the way the previous elections were corrupted). Even Democratic senators accused Dominion Voting Systems of fraudulent activity. Yet no one prosecuted these evildoers, and ensured that they would not be allowed to touch a single vote.

Indeed Trump should have made this matter his top priority -- a major issue -- by setting up a INDEPENDENT ELECTION INVESTIGATION COMMISSION to thoroughly expose the degradation of the way elections were being conducted throughout the country. There was also criminal collusion which should have been brought to light. Judicial Watch did file some lawsuits about fraudulent voter rolls, but this matter should have been in the public eye for the last three years (almost daily) until there was a reasonable expectation of free and fair elections.

The fraud perpetrated on November 3 and thereafter was not simply a coup against Trump. It was a direct attack on America by the Left and the enemies of the USA. The message was that there would never be a free and fair election in the States again, and that the ones who counted the votes would decide who would govern the country. Which would be the end of the Republic of the USA.
 

Magenta

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That's the latest information so that's new to me. By the way for Switzerland the death rate per population since the beginning of COVID is now.....0.035%. No doubt this is heavily heavily weighted toward the elderly.....who would've died of something else anyway.

We're all gonna die...
 

cv5

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You will probably keep saying this even after a mountain of evidence is put forward.

The majority of the news networks in the West are under the control of a handful of billionaires, who have made it their life's ambition to destroy democracy and freedom, and have used the media for pure propaganda for the past two decades. Hence the daily vilification of Donald Trump by the media, and at the same time the total protection of all the evildoers (Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. etc).

Also Mr. Trump should have been more than prepared for MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD since 2016 (given the way the previous elections were corrupted). Even Democratic senators accused Dominion Voting Systems of fraudulent activity. Yet no one prosecuted these evildoers, and ensured that they would not be allowed to touch a single vote.

Indeed Trump should have made this matter his top priority -- a major issue -- by setting up a INDEPENDENT ELECTION INVESTIGATION COMMISSION to thoroughly expose the degradation of the way elections were being conducted throughout the country. There was also criminal collusion which should have been brought to light. Judicial Watch did file some lawsuits about fraudulent voter rolls, but this matter should have been in the public eye for the last three years (almost daily) until there was a reasonable expectation of free and fair elections.

The fraud perpetrated on November 3 and thereafter was not simply a coup against Trump. It was a direct attack on America by the Left and the enemies of the USA. The message was that there would never be a free and fair election in the States again, and that the ones who counted the votes would decide who would govern the country. Which would be the end of the Republic of the USA.
Trump did all things well but the only complaint I have with him is as you say he delayed taking necessary actions on mission critical problems such as corruption in the FBI & CIA and the very well-known VAST election fraud CRISIS. I believe he will be reelected and attend to these problems with the necessary vigor.

Biden for prison 2020. That's where he rightfully belongs.
 

cv5

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You will probably keep saying this even after a mountain of evidence is put forward.

The majority of the news networks in the West are under the control of a handful of billionaires, who have made it their life's ambition to destroy democracy and freedom, and have used the media for pure propaganda for the past two decades. Hence the daily vilification of Donald Trump by the media, and at the same time the total protection of all the evildoers (Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. etc).

Also Mr. Trump should have been more than prepared for MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD since 2016 (given the way the previous elections were corrupted). Even Democratic senators accused Dominion Voting Systems of fraudulent activity. Yet no one prosecuted these evildoers, and ensured that they would not be allowed to touch a single vote.

Indeed Trump should have made this matter his top priority -- a major issue -- by setting up a INDEPENDENT ELECTION INVESTIGATION COMMISSION to thoroughly expose the degradation of the way elections were being conducted throughout the country. There was also criminal collusion which should have been brought to light. Judicial Watch did file some lawsuits about fraudulent voter rolls, but this matter should have been in the public eye for the last three years (almost daily) until there was a reasonable expectation of free and fair elections.

The fraud perpetrated on November 3 and thereafter was not simply a coup against Trump. It was a direct attack on America by the Left and the enemies of the USA. The message was that there would never be a free and fair election in the States again, and that the ones who counted the votes would decide who would govern the country. Which would be the end of the Republic of the USA.
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/1...he-election-and-why-he-may-flip-on-joe-biden/

It’s alleged that Skinny Joey Merlino manufactured more than 300,000 ballots for Joe Biden, and then transported them in nondescript cardboard boxes to a backroom at the Philadelphia Convention Center. From there, the ballots were scanned into ballot boxes and were then co-located with actual election ballots being prepared for processing, according to an associate who was made familar with the operation.
 

cv5

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"The Great Reset" Trends On Twitter After Justin Trudeau Says Pandemic Has Provided "Opportunity"
***100% Communist Kool-Aid***


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/great-reset-trends-twitter-after-justin-trudeau-says-pandemic-has-provided-opportunity

He is parroting Biden's mantra "build back better". Like Biden he is a globalist stooge.

“This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset – this is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to re-imagine economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality and climate change,”

Justin Trudeau has made his inclination towards CCP totalitarian government perfectly clear many many times. He has stated that he envies and admires the communist government of China.​
Anybody who's paying attention is well aware that Trudeau is a globalist meat puppet. His fidelity and loyalty to his native country Canada goes last dead last every single time. His sworn allegiance is to his NWO globalist masters.​
 

Dude653

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The Virus hoax? Are you in denial or do you know you're lying? A fellow tenant, the land lady's father and two people across the street died from covid 19. It's real!
Several of my co-workers have had it
Thing is most young people recover in a couple weeks but a lot of elderly people don't survive it
One of the deacons and the associate pastor of my church died of covid
thing is the rest of the world is recovering while America remains a hotspot
Honestly I think Trump's flippant attitude towards doctors and scientists during this pandemic is what ultimately cost in the election
it's embarrassing to know that I live in a country where at least half the population thinks science is a hoax
 

cv5

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What should we do? Give into fear and paranoia? The people with money, in savings are going go loose big time when the buying power of their savings goes down the toilet. The Antichrist and Beast are comming. No doubt about it. Our money will be worthless when the Anti-Christ and the Beast take over. It's going to be OK. I think that this life is only a test in order test. It's like the eye of the needle question and answer parable .

We must drop our baggage in order to get thr. that includes wealth, influence & authority.
But if it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”
And you think Joe Biden is going to solve these problems? Of course not. He is going to mash on the accelerator pedal and destroy America as rapidly as he possibly can.

It is Joe Biden (and his globalist communist accomplices and handlers) who is the greatest threat to America since its founding. It is a proven fact that Biden will sell his office with no qualms. This pattern of behavior will continue.....to your grave detriment, and that of the Republic.

Joe Biden's statements on their face indicate that he fully intends on abandoning America's interests and aligning with the globalists. He supports the virus civil rights seizures. He supports exporting American jobs and destroying energy independence. He supports the climate change hoax. He intends on handing over the keys of the United States to the UN by selling out his country through treaties (This by the way is his speciality). He may be the worst racist in all of American politics.

Trump on the other hand has made clear statements and is taking clear actions to DEFEND America's interest thereby making America first. He scuttled the bogus unfair UN CC treaties. He redefined the NAFTA to make it work for the US. He took strict measures to eliminate illegal immigration. He pulled out of all unnecessary wars. He has made clear statements over and over again that he will never support Socialism, Communism or Globalism.

Trump is the best thing that has happened to America in DECADES. He has never taken a bribe. He has never sold his office. He is never peddled his influence. He has never been anything less than a true patriot.
 
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And you think Joe Biden is going to solve these problems? Of course not. He is going to mash on the accelerator pedal and destroy America as rapidly as he possibly can.

It is Joe Biden (and his globalist communist accomplices and handlers) who is the greatest threat to America since its founding. It is a proven fact that Biden will sell his office with no qualms. This pattern of behavior will continue.....to your grave detriment, and that of the Republic.

Joe Biden's statements on their face indicate that he fully intends on abandoning America's interests and aligning with the globalists. He supports the virus civil rights seizures. He supports exporting American jobs and destroying energy independence. He supports the climate change hoax. He intends on handing over the keys of the United States to the UN by selling out his country through treaties (This by the way is his speciality). He may be the worst racist in all of American politics.

Trump on the other hand has made clear statements and is taking clear actions to DEFEND America's interest thereby making America first. He scuttled the bogus unfair UN CC treaties. He redefined the NAFTA to make it work for the US. He took strict measures to eliminate illegal immigration. He pulled out of all unnecessary wars. He has made clear statements over and over again that he will never support Socialism, Communism or Globalism.

Trump is the best thing that has happened to America in DECADES. He has never taken a bribe. He has never sold his office. He is never peddled his influence. He has never been anything less than a true patriot.
You know what they would call a statement like yours in court? Starts with the letter “P”...