The dreaded doctrine of election and perseverance.

Just think how much bible you could read instead.

Everyone who is Saved by Christ knows they are Saved.

This Knowledge of Salvation is first and foremost. Everything else comes after. You can call it OSAS or Perseverence of the Saints. They are interchangeable in my opinion.

There is no insecurity in Eternal Security. You are completely wrong in your initial premise, again.

Do you base that on you believing you were elected to be converted ?

As a Calvinist how would they know today that they won't fall away in the future ? They don't know today that they will ultimately persevere till the end .

That is fine, but I don't believe one should attempt to discuss Calvin's theology if they haven't read him. It is extremely annoying. I don't want to be that guy. When I have read him I will feel like I have something intelligent to say about his views.

I read books for classes but very few of my text books are available on audible.com or I would listen to them when at the gym or doing tasks. So listening to books that I can find on the same subject of my classes I find very productive.

As to bible study, I am currently studying 2 Peter. I will read 2 Peter several times over asking the Holy Spirit to illuminate me and depending on Him to give me the intended interpretation.

Then I will also read several commentaries from good writers who believed in the verbal inspiration of the Bible and are or were well respected scholars who know more than me. Sometimes I will read things I am not in agreement with but that is actually fairly rare.
Most of the time the commentaries I read will be saming the same thing as I understood it but will also give me much more than I noticed when I read it. Like background information, timelines, and most importantly other scriptures from other parts of the bible that contribute to the subject. This shortens my learning curve by decades if I relied only on my on bible reading.

I know this is painfully obvious but it astounds me how many people insist on wallowing in their own ignorance while a whole universe of biblical education is available to them for free. They pride themselves in being stupid. "I never read good bible reference books" they say. And you bite your tongue resisting the urge to say "It shows"

I would say once you understand the 5 points you can make a informed decision. The 5 points make it easier .

Did Calvin invent TULIP?

It looks like you should get a better grasp of so-called "Lordship salvation" since all genuine salvation -- by definition -- must be Lordship salvation.

Now please note carefully what is stated here: And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:30,31).

Did Paul simply say "Jesus" or "Jesus Christ"? Or did he say "the LORD Jesus Christ"? And if he said that, was there tremendous significance in saying it that way?

ALL GENUINE SALVATION IS LORDSHIP SALVATION. That is because you must believe on the LORD Jesus Christ.

As to Unconditional Election, that is not in accordance with the true Gospel, which offers salvation freely to whosoever will repent and believe. As to perseverance, we are "kept by the power of God".

"Whosoever will repent". To me, it is redundant to think that the unregenerate man would repent of breaking a spiritual law, that he cannot discern, and thinks it to be foolishness. It seems, to me, that repentance of breaking a spiritual law would be restricted to those who have been born spiritually. What do you think?

Yeah this is indeed a very tricky one, one could contend that those who are saved were elected to be so and free will has nothing to do it but there are some things I have always wondered about this part.
It actually began when I got out of a debate with soemone about thsi very topic and was re readding the bible from the beginning when I guess this topic was still fresh in my mind and the first thing that kind of caught my attention was with God and adam and eve

He put the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden and he forbade them from eating the tree yet they both did, this was the first time I considered the fact they both clearly were given orders not to do something but still chose to do it showing they had a choice to or not to
This garden was supposed to be heaven and always in the presence of God but it wasn't until they chose to disobey him that they were appointed to die and kicked out of the garden

This got me thinking if the garden is supposed to be like heaven on earth then when you were then labeled as sinful you are forbidden to ever enter the haven again it kind of seems to be like with heaven and hell in a sense
In heaven we will always be in his presence but in hell we are forbidden to ever enter heaven and always without his presence ever again Then going through the rest of the bible God has always used the same formula he says what to do and what not to do and also always says what will happen if we disobey and when we connect this to salvation if we are told to repent and accept Jesus as Lord and are warned what will happen if we do not then that begs the question if election is in fact how it works then why does he offer a choice of life or death heaven or hell obey or disobey repent or live according to our fleshly desires?

Death, according to Greek, means "a separation". Separation (death) does not mean everlasting hell, in Deut 30:19, but a separation from our fellowship with God. Choosing life, is choosing to live in fellowship with God, and choosing to attempt to obey his commandments

God has given mankind the choice to live his life as mankind wants to, but mankind has no choice in his eternal deliverance, that is by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.

Commanding all men everywhere to repent and marvelling at peoples unbelief can only be consistent with the fact that people are able to repent and believe .

Luke 13.34
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
They chose not .
Romans 10:21

“But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.”

Acts 13 .
46Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Can you give me a scripture that says "marvelling at peoples unbelief" ?

We have been through these same discussions before, where you are trying to give the ability to the unregenerate natural man to believe in spiritual things, and I have given you scriptures that contradict your theory on the ability of the natural man.

Acts 17:29 Paul is referring to the men as "offspring" of God. Some people Jesus accused of being of their father the devil, so all men are not of the offspring of God. It is t8hese people who are of the offspring of God that he is referencing with his statement of commanding all men everywhere to repent. That would not include the unregenerate natural man, who is not the offspring of God.

Death, according to Greek, means "a separation". Separation (death) does not mean everlasting hell, in Deut 30:19, but a separation from our fellowship with God. Choosing life, is choosing to live in fellowship with God, and choosing to attempt to obey his commandments

God has given mankind the choice to live his life as mankind wants to, but mankind has no choice in his eternal deliverance, that is by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.

Everyone is invited to be saved, but those who do not accept the call and the invitation are not chosen for heaven. Grace is not irresistible. Luke 13:34 is a good example of that. All people are invited to be saved, but many choose not to accept. God chooses (or "elects") for salvation and heaven only those who accept His invitation.

The Bible says: "He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

That clearly shows salvation is an individual choice. That's why Jesus said "whosover will, let him take the water of life freely."

I've used this analogy before, and I believe it's fitting: A pardon can be issued to a man on death row, setting him free, but that pardon is only a good as it's acceptance. If the man refuses the pardon, he has chosen to die. The pardon becomes little more than a piece of paper.

God offers pardon to everyone. They are free to choose to receive it or not. God has predestined to save anyone who will receive.

Those whom Christ died for is limited to those that his Father gave him, and he said that he would not lose any of them,

Christ was a sacrifice that was offered to God, for God's acceptance, and not to mankind, for mankind's acceptance.

The regenerated people are given a choice to follow God's commandments, but it is not to get eternal life.