How God used a lying spirit to fulfill His plan

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In the book of 1 Kings, there is a passage of scripture that is confusing and for some Christians, a bit scary, concerning this "lying spirit". To get a better understanding as to what is going on, we must read about the events that is taking place during king Ahab's rule. One event in particular, the battle of Qarqar, was significant in that it kept Ahab from occupying a region called Ramoth in Gilead, which he greatly wanted because it would strategically put him in control of the plain of Jezreel.
King Ahab reigned over Israel from 871-852 and was the son and successor of Omri. Most biblical scholars agree that Ahab was one of Israel's worst kings. Jezebel was his wife and was very influential during his reign over Israel. She was so influential that she convinced Ahab to give Baal equal worship and respect as everyone gave God. The Bible tells us that king Ahab, "did more to provoke the Lord God of Israel than all of the other Kings of Israel that were before him".

1 Kings 22:1-6 Jehoshaphat of Judah was now legally related to Ahab through the marriage of his son. King Ahab asks his prophets(400 of them), "shall I go against Ramoth-Gilead to battle, or shall I forbear?" Now Jehoshaphat knew that these 400 men of the king's were not true prophets of God. The king of Judah believed in the Lord and therefore could recognize their lies. So, before Jehoshaphat would join forces with Ahab, he wanted to seek God's will in the matter first(very wise), and wanted a true prophet to deliver the message to them. They both agreed that Micaiah was this prophet.

1 Kings 22:8-18 King Ahab recognizes Micaiah as a true prophet of the Lord, "there is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may inquire of the Lord." It is interesting that Ahab acknowledges Micaiah as a true prophet, but doesn't take the prophets advice, saying "but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil."

1 Kings 22:19-23 Micaiah explains to king Ahab why the 400 prophets persuaded him to go to battle. Micaiah clearly tells the king that this lying spirit put lies in the mouths of his prophets, which God allowed.

Who was this "lying spirit"?
1.) When the spirit volunteers to do this deed, "all the host of heaven" are present, so is it possible that wicked spirits/demons can roam freely in and out of Heaven? Revelation 12 says that at some point, Satan and his angels will be no longer able or allowed any place in Heaven. This "lying spirit" could have been a demon used as a tool by God.
2.) Something to think about. Could the spirit have been Naboth the Jezreelite? Naboth was someone who had been framed and put to death by Ahab's queen. If his spirit was in Heaven, then he was present during this "gathering" and would have stepped out and volunteered out of vengeance. God could have allowed this to happen, to carry out His plan. The story of Naboth the Jezreelite, can be found in the Talmud, which is a central text of mainstream Judaism, consisting of Jewish law, customs, and culture.

Why God used this "lying spirit".
God had given king Ahab ample opportunities to repent and turn from his unrighteous ways. During his entire tenure as king of Israel, he failed to listen to any messenger of God. God showed him mercy countless times, giving him enough opportunities for repentance, until finally God gave him a final warning for consistently living a life of wicked rebellion. So, God allowed the lies and persuasion of a spirit to carry-out His plan. 1 Kings 22:20-22, "The Lord said, who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?........and there came forth a spirit and stood before the Lord and said, I will persuade him." The Bible describes all the hosts of Heaven standing on God's right and left of Him seated upon His throne. This was quite a gathering and the Lord's court was obviously in session. The verdict was guilty and sentenced to death at Ramoth-gilead.

Final thoughts
We have to acknowledge God's ultimate power and authority in what or whom He chooses to accomplish His holy purpose. Many church leaders say this "lying spirit" was an angel. But this may be a problem since the Bible doesn't address angels as a "spirit". Most scholars lean toward this spirit as being a demon. Regardless, everything is under His authority and control and God chooses to use both good and evil for His Divine purpose, "All inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will", Daniel 4:35
 
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In the book of 1 Kings, there is a passage of scripture that is confusing and for some Christians, a bit scary, concerning this "lying spirit". To get a better understanding as to what is going on, we must read about the events that is taking place during king Ahab's rule. One event in particular, the battle of Qarqar, was significant in that it kept Ahab from occupying a region called Ramoth in Gilead, which he greatly wanted because it would strategically put him in control of the plain of Jezreel.
King Ahab reigned over Israel from 871-852 and was the son and successor of Omri. Most biblical scholars agree that Ahab was one of Israel's worst kings. Jezebel was his wife and was very influential during his reign over Israel. She was so influential that she convinced Ahab to give Baal equal worship and respect as everyone gave God. The Bible tells us that king Ahab, "did more to provoke the Lord God of Israel than all of the other Kings of Israel that were before him".

1 Kings 22:1-6 Jehoshaphat of Judah was now legally related to Ahab through the marriage of his son. King Ahab asks his prophets(400 of them), "shall I go against Ramoth-Gilead to battle, or shall I forbear?" Now Jehoshaphat knew that these 400 men of the king's were not true prophets of God. The king of Judah believed in the Lord and therefore could recognize their lies. So, before Jehoshaphat would join forces with Ahab, he wanted to seek God's will in the matter first(very wise), and wanted a true prophet to deliver the message to them. They both agreed that Micaiah was this prophet.

1 Kings 22:8-18 King Ahab recognizes Micaiah as a true prophet of the Lord, "there is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may inquire of the Lord." It is interesting that Ahab acknowledges Micaiah as a true prophet, but doesn't take the prophets advice, saying "but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil."

1 Kings 22:19-23 Micaiah explains to king Ahab why the 400 prophets persuaded him to go to battle. Micaiah clearly tells the king that this lying spirit put lies in the mouths of his prophets, which God allowed.

Who was this "lying spirit"?
1.) When the spirit volunteers to do this deed, "all the host of heaven" are present, so is it possible that wicked spirits/demons can roam freely in and out of Heaven? Revelation 12 says that at some point, Satan and his angels will be no longer able or allowed any place in Heaven. This "lying spirit" could have been a demon used as a tool by God.
2.) Something to think about. Could the spirit have been Naboth the Jezreelite? Naboth was someone who had been framed and put to death by Ahab's queen. If his spirit was in Heaven, then he was present during this "gathering" and would have stepped out and volunteered out of vengeance. God could have allowed this to happen, to carry out His plan. The story of Naboth the Jezreelite, can be found in the Talmud, which is a central text of mainstream Judaism, consisting of Jewish law, customs, and culture.

Why God used this "lying spirit".
God had given king Ahab ample opportunities to repent and turn from his unrighteous ways. During his entire tenure as king of Israel, he failed to listen to any messenger of God. God showed him mercy countless times, giving him enough opportunities for repentance, until finally God gave him a final warning for consistently living a life of wicked rebellion. So, God allowed the lies and persuasion of a spirit to carry-out His plan. 1 Kings 22:20-22, "The Lord said, who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?........and there came forth a spirit and stood before the Lord and said, I will persuade him." The Bible describes all the hosts of Heaven standing on God's right and left of Him seated upon His throne. This was quite a gathering and the Lord's court was obviously in session. The verdict was guilty and sentenced to death at Ramoth-gilead.

Final thoughts
We have to acknowledge God's ultimate power and authority in what or whom He chooses to accomplish His holy purpose. Many church leaders say this "lying spirit" was an angel. But this may be a problem since the Bible doesn't address angels as a "spirit". Most scholars lean toward this spirit as being a demon. Regardless, everything is under His authority and control and God chooses to use both good and evil for His Divine purpose, "All inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will", Daniel 4:35
Psalm 104:4. "Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire."

Hebrews 1:7. "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire." (see verse 14 as well)

The origin of demons is not given. What we do know is
  1. They are disembodied spirits seeking a body to live in
  2. They like water. Their torment is a "dry place"
  3. The human body is 70% water
  4. Their dwelling place when not in a body is the sea
  5. They are part of Satan's principalities. If Satan cast out a demon he would hurt his kingdom
  6. There is no record of a demon being in heaven
  7. Demons are stronger than men. One demon beat up seven men
  8. More than one demon can dwell in a man
At the White Throne judgment it is likely that the "sea" giving up her dead are the demons who will then be judged.
The best supposition as to the demons is that they are the spirits of a pre-Adamic race that joined Satan in the rebellion that led God to cover the earth with water in Genesis 1:2. But this theory, while likely, is not provable.
 
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Probably the main point is not for us to understand the origins of the lying spirit but to show that God will give a false prophet over to a demonic influence as judgment for choices they have made to choose to please man rather than God.

For example; If a pastor today is preaching a message that if you give $100 God will give you $10,000 and then they are reading the bible and realize that they have misunderstood or been taught to misinterpret the scripture about a hundred fold return and they know that they are misinterpreting it but because many people are falling for it and they are receiving record amounts in offerings, they may make a choice to keep teaching a bad hermeneutic because it is working for them. When they do this they have committed the sin of loving mammon more than God, more than truth and they are being dishonest in their handling of the Word.

These men may have been true pastors but slowly after many such choices to compromise intellectual honesty and willfully speak falsehood, they will be allowed to actually believe their own lies and will hear and see "confirmation" from God that they are right and will get so entrenched in their falsehood they are beyond repentance.

Scary is right. There are many today who are hearing lying spirits and thinking that they are hearing from God.
Don't blame God for this. They were given many chances and chose falsehood for personal gain until they lost their ability to discern truth. They preach silly hermeneutics often without shame or fear of being corrected. Why? They really think they are being given special illumination from God because it is "their gift" but those holy saints who really do have illumination are wondering why that preacher could teach something so obviously wrong.

What we have in this story is a glimpse (and it is just a glimpse) into one example of many unknown things that are going on in the spiritual warfare we are engaged in. We must learn from this story and be surrendered to preaching only the truth even if it costs us everything. God is searching throughout the world to find those who's hearts are completely his and who TREMBLE at His word which means they approach the preaching and teaching of the word with a careful desire to never compromise the message of holiness and faithfulness to truth. Never follow the popular celebrity preachers to speak an crowd pleasing message of peace and safety when judgment is at the doors. Those preachers alone will have a lasting legacy when all the others have been exposed as false and forgotten and buried in infamy.

Why do you think people teach really strange interpretations here on CC.
 
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lenna

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We have to acknowledge God's ultimate power and authority in what or whom He chooses to accomplish His holy purpose. Many church leaders say this "lying spirit" was an angel. But this may be a problem since the Bible doesn't address angels as a "spirit". Most scholars lean toward this spirit as being a demon. Regardless, everything is under His authority and control and God chooses to use both good and evil for His Divine purpose, "All inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will", Daniel 4:35
I tend to believe what is written. if it had been an angel, it seems to me that would be reflected in the text

we find similar in the New Testament

9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness. II Thessalonians
 

JaumeJ

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Oft time the words angel and spirit are the same.