Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

Does God respond to us or do we respond to Him? I thought I was responding to Him when I got saved.

Is giving a gift not a response on the part of the person that is giving?

Came in on the last few minutes of a R C Sproul sermon this morning, and it was on this very topic. Was amazed!! Wasn't by accident, no it wasn't. Digging through his archives to find that message, and listen to it in full.

As long as you have the order right...God ALWAYS initiates salvation. In fact, He takes a lot of steps before we even move.

Foreknow, Predestine, sent His Son, sent His apostles, sent His Spirit, sent His Word, sent His preachers, called us.

That’s eight steps He takes before we even think about calling on Him. So yes, we respond to Him. He’s not someone that comes running when you whistle. He’s the God who COMMANDS all to repent and believe the Gospel.

What is the righteousness that the world needs to be convicted of? I don't think you know. We know that the sin that the world needs to be convicted of is contextually unbelief. So what is the remedy for the sin of unbelief?

Perhaps putting your trust in someone else's righteousness instead of your own. Because the verse does say that the righteousness is referring to Jesus, and the world is seeing Jesus no more. So what does the Spirit convict the world of? The righteousness of Christ Himself. Which interestingly enough, becomes our righteousness in justification.

The Spirit points out the sin of our unbelief, points to the Righteousness of Christ, and then to the victory at the cross over satan.

Apart from Grace? Of course I believe in total inability apart from Grace. Unto us it is GRANTED not only to believe but also to suffer for His sake. Philippians 1:29. The greek word translated "granted" is charizomai, which is related to the word "charis" or grace. It has been graced to us, freely given to us, given graciously to us TO BELIEVE.

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Easy for you to say, seeing you have no stated position on what thisverses means, and don't even know what Ephesians 1;4 actually says. Anyone can go and read Ephesians 4 and see it clearly says God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. My seven year old grandson can read that verse. .

Which brings us to our point. DO you believe in imputed righteousness?

Which brings us to our point. DO you believe in imputed righteousness?

God does not predestine/select certain people to salvation.

If you find it, post it here if you like. RC was a man of God in my eyes.

Does God respond to us or do we respond to Him? I thought I was responding to Him when I got saved.

As long as you get the order right.

God calls. We call upon Him. He saves

While we’re talking about calling,the order is foreknew, predestined, called, justified, glorified.

God does not predestine/select certain people to salvation.

Grace is a ubiquitous reality, not a selective force. (Tit. 2:11-13)

Grace is just fine on it’s own as it’s found in scripture. Any modifier other than “free,” such as “sovereign,” “irresistible,” or “prevenient” indicate someone is either confused or attempting to confuse. (Rom. 3:24; 5:15; Jn. 1:16; Tit. 2:11-13)

You can make any isolated verse fit a paradigm.

Depends what you mean ?

There are many things that are supposedly used to encapsulate what we mean . Like doctrines, confessions , slogans and catch phrases ect. But we can have different meanings behind them. So you'd have to explain what you mean ?

That's what people say when they don't like what a verse says. Having chosen us in HIM before the foundation of the world means the same by itself that it means when read in the longest sentence in the Bible. It means God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. Paul is not using double talk.

You don't like what it says, so you change "having chosen us in Him" to "having chosen our blessings in Him". That is worse than eisegesis. That is changing words. The word "US" is in every text and every translation, but you EXCLUDE IT. That's a scary thing.

How about when you add ubiquitous as a modifier? And by the way, Hoss, I did not use a modifier. And I'm sorry to hear that you limit God's Soverienty.