Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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It makes perfect sense. God has blessed us with all spiritual blessing according to the fact that He chose US before the foundation of the world. You can't get around it. It is as clear as the light of day what the verse is saying. That's why you can't explain what it means, because you're not willing to accept what it means.
Not even close. I think you guys need to take your time and really read the passage.
God knows all things . What do you mean what does it mean ?
the elect is the church , the church are those who accept the gospel whether Jew or gentile There is nothing God doesn’t know I’m not sure what your asking all Foreknowledge means is God knows the end even from the beginning there’s nothing he doesn’t know . It doesn’t change anything in scripture though it’s a just a point about God that he’s not ignorant of any matter to come or on the past .
it doesn’t remove our role because God knows who will accept Christ and be saved .
The elect is the church
“Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”
Colossians 3:12-16
see how even though the church is the elect they are being instructed ? The proof of his foreknowledge is prophecy he was always foretelling Christ and the church . I’m not sure what the difference if God knee before makes is what I’m saying it doesn’t mean he saves us against our will or we have no choice it just means God knows the outcome beforehand
the elect is the church , the church are those who accept the gospel whether Jew or gentile There is nothing God doesn’t know I’m not sure what your asking all Foreknowledge means is God knows the end even from the beginning there’s nothing he doesn’t know . It doesn’t change anything in scripture though it’s a just a point about God that he’s not ignorant of any matter to come or on the past .
it doesn’t remove our role because God knows who will accept Christ and be saved .
The elect is the church
“Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”
Colossians 3:12-16
see how even though the church is the elect they are being instructed ? The proof of his foreknowledge is prophecy he was always foretelling Christ and the church . I’m not sure what the difference if God knee before makes is what I’m saying it doesn’t mean he saves us against our will or we have no choice it just means God knows the outcome beforehand
Can you see any blessings given here ? or are they given after we believe.
Eph 2
11¶Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2
11¶Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Romans 8:14-16
Heirs with Christ
…14For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father! 16The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.…
Heirs with Christ
…14For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father! 16The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.…
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Does the scripture say "whom God foreknew, He predestined. And Who He predestined, He called. And who He called He justified, and who he justified, He glorified. " Does this not mean that foreknowledge as used in scripture is connected to predestination, calling, justification, and glorification in the sense that if one is accomplished in a person, they all will be accomplished?
Is Romans 8:28-30 talking about individuals or a faceless mass of people that God doesn't know.
Is Romans 8:28-30 talking about individuals or a faceless mass of people that God doesn't know.
You have to keep jumping to other scriptures because you can't explain Ephesians 1:4-5
You can't explain it, because you can't accept what it says.
SO you ignore it.
What is the direct object of the clause "God chose us" in Ephesians 1:4?
It shouldn't be hard. You only have three words to choose from
You can't explain it, because you can't accept what it says.
SO you ignore it.
What is the direct object of the clause "God chose us" in Ephesians 1:4?
It shouldn't be hard. You only have three words to choose from
Forknown, predestined, called, justified, glorified...clear order here.
Why do you put justification BEFORE predestination? Paul doesn't. I say this because you say one is not predestined until they are saved. But that would mean that one is not predestined until they are justified, in direct opposition to Paul's words.
Why do you put justification BEFORE predestination? Paul doesn't. I say this because you say one is not predestined until they are saved. But that would mean that one is not predestined until they are justified, in direct opposition to Paul's words.