Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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It's a biblical issue, that of (Doctrine)
God has foreknowledge, he predestinates, calls, justify's, and glorifys all believers.
As Romans 9:20-24 clearly teaches, God makes vessels of honor/saved and vessels of dishonor/unsaved
So easy a 1st grader can understand it
Romans 8:29-30KJV
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
God has foreknowledge, he predestinates, calls, justify's, and glorifys all believers.
As Romans 9:20-24 clearly teaches, God makes vessels of honor/saved and vessels of dishonor/unsaved
So easy a 1st grader can understand it
Romans 8:29-30KJV
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
the fatalistic view of Romans 9 is misleading and incorrect, context does not support it
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I am not a T.U.L.I.P Calvinist.. I have spent years preaching against Calvinism.. I would suggest you look into Calvanisim's TULIP 5 doctrines so that you can know the difference between calvinism and what i believe in..
I believe what the Bible says about Gods foreknowledge and His predestining people from that foreknowledge into the image of Jesus.. Calvinisim is very different.. it says God created some people to be saved because He was always going to force them to believe and that God created others who served no other purpose but to burn in torment in the lake of fire forever and ever simply because God pre-decided not to control their minds and force them to believe in Him..
I believe what the Bible says about Gods foreknowledge and His predestining people from that foreknowledge into the image of Jesus.. Calvinisim is very different.. it says God created some people to be saved because He was always going to force them to believe and that God created others who served no other purpose but to burn in torment in the lake of fire forever and ever simply because God pre-decided not to control their minds and force them to believe in Him..
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The verses below clearly explains God's (Foreknowledge) the topic.
The passage is talking about the remnant Jew that will be saved and Added to the church, the vessels of honor spoken about includes all saved, both Jew and Gentile.
The remnant Jew was predestined, just as all believers are predestined.
Many falsely teach, (All Jews/Israel) will be saved, a false teaching, Only the remnant Jew will be saved, the rest will be blinded.
Romans 11:7-8KJV
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
The passage is talking about the remnant Jew that will be saved and Added to the church, the vessels of honor spoken about includes all saved, both Jew and Gentile.
The remnant Jew was predestined, just as all believers are predestined.
Many falsely teach, (All Jews/Israel) will be saved, a false teaching, Only the remnant Jew will be saved, the rest will be blinded.
Romans 11:7-8KJV
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day.Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Well this is the definition of the U in TULIP
"U" in "TULIP" stands for "Unconditional Election" (Predestination).
"God's choice of certain individuals unto salvation before the foundation of the world rested solely in His own sovereign will. His choice of particular sinners was not based on any foreseen response of obedience on their part, such as faith, repentance, etc. On the contrary, God gives faith and repentance to each individual whom He selects. These acts are the result, not the cause of God's choice. Election therefore was not determined by or conditioned upon any virtuous quality or act foreseen in man. Those whom God sovereignly elected He brings through the power of the Spirit to a willing acceptance of Christ. Thus God's choice of the sinner, not the sinner's choice of Christ, is the ultimate cause of salvation."
This definition means that it's 100% Gods doing.. According to calvinism God gives everything.. Faith repentence.. ""These acts are the result , not the cause of Gods Choice""
"U" in "TULIP" stands for "Unconditional Election" (Predestination).
"God's choice of certain individuals unto salvation before the foundation of the world rested solely in His own sovereign will. His choice of particular sinners was not based on any foreseen response of obedience on their part, such as faith, repentance, etc. On the contrary, God gives faith and repentance to each individual whom He selects. These acts are the result, not the cause of God's choice. Election therefore was not determined by or conditioned upon any virtuous quality or act foreseen in man. Those whom God sovereignly elected He brings through the power of the Spirit to a willing acceptance of Christ. Thus God's choice of the sinner, not the sinner's choice of Christ, is the ultimate cause of salvation."
This definition means that it's 100% Gods doing.. According to calvinism God gives everything.. Faith repentence.. ""These acts are the result , not the cause of Gods Choice""
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It is in context of a contrast with those who will be deceived by the man of sin. Those who do not love the truth will be sent a strong delusion, which is a result of the hand of God which restrains the evil being removed. God restrains evil, and God removes restraint. He’s Soveriegn that way.
Unlike those who will be deceived, the Thessalonian believers have been chosen by God from the beginning. They are chosen for salvation through the sanctification of the Spirit, (which is a work of God) and through faith in the truth.
It was for salvation through the work of the Spirit and faith that they were called BY GOD THROUGH THE GOSPEL, for the purpose of being glorified with Christ.
So they were CHOSEN for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and faith, this was accomplished when they were CALLED BY GOD through the Gospel. The end result of salvation will be final glorification.
Chosen, called, believed, saved, glorified.
Unlike those who will be deceived, the Thessalonian believers have been chosen by God from the beginning. They are chosen for salvation through the sanctification of the Spirit, (which is a work of God) and through faith in the truth.
It was for salvation through the work of the Spirit and faith that they were called BY GOD THROUGH THE GOSPEL, for the purpose of being glorified with Christ.
So they were CHOSEN for salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and faith, this was accomplished when they were CALLED BY GOD through the Gospel. The end result of salvation will be final glorification.
Chosen, called, believed, saved, glorified.
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Oh and just to add the grace of God according to calvinism is irresistable to those God has and will force to become saved..
"I" in "TULIP" stands for "Irresistible Grace."
"In addition to the outward general call to salvation which is made to everyone who hears the gospel, the Holy Spirit extends to the elect a special inward call that inevitably brings them to salvation. The internal call (which is made only to the elect) cannot be rejected; it always results in conversion. By means of this special call the Spirit irresistibly draws sinners to Christ. He is not limited in His work of applying salvation by man's will, nor is he dependant upon man's cooperation for success. The Spirit graciously causes the elect sinner to cooperate, to believe, to repent, to come freely and willingly to Christ. God's grace, therefore, is invincible; it never fails to result in the salvation of those to whom it is extended."
"I" in "TULIP" stands for "Irresistible Grace."
"In addition to the outward general call to salvation which is made to everyone who hears the gospel, the Holy Spirit extends to the elect a special inward call that inevitably brings them to salvation. The internal call (which is made only to the elect) cannot be rejected; it always results in conversion. By means of this special call the Spirit irresistibly draws sinners to Christ. He is not limited in His work of applying salvation by man's will, nor is he dependant upon man's cooperation for success. The Spirit graciously causes the elect sinner to cooperate, to believe, to repent, to come freely and willingly to Christ. God's grace, therefore, is invincible; it never fails to result in the salvation of those to whom it is extended."
The order is foreknown , predestined, called, justified, glorified.
And according to the Thessalonian text above, the call is to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and faith in the truth.
Don’t get worked up by the order I just put things in. I am carefully following what Paul wrote.
And according to the Thessalonian text above, the call is to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and faith in the truth.
Don’t get worked up by the order I just put things in. I am carefully following what Paul wrote.
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