God created man and woman. Where did transgenders come from?

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Nehemiah6

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So being transgender is an imaginary thing because it is impossible to change a biological gender.
The fad of transgenderism (sex reassignment) started when people decided to start another fad. This began in the 2000s, but there was a history of this fad since the 1960s. It is simply another sexual perversion, hence connected with homosexuality.

L = lesbian
G = gay
B = bisexual
T = transgender
Q = queer

It is estimated that about 40% of transgender wished to commit suicide. Some studies say transgenderism is a mental disorder. It could be much more a spiritual issue.
 

tourist

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Oh yeah I understand, we as humans make mistakes, I absolutely hated going to school, I did my work, it was dealing with other people. I remember coming home from middle school one day and telling mom: “School is hell!” and she got sooo pissed off, she told me to never say that again, but she was harsh because I had to go back, no matter what and I’m glad I did. Public school got me used to dealing with social situations, I didn’t talk to anyone but I learned, that’s for sure.

I still struggle treating people nice cause my emotions sometimes get the best of me, if I feel like I judged someone or get mad, I pray for repentance immediately, but sometimes reaching out to pray is something I struggle with cause I’m the type of person when I get mad or sad, I just want to stay mad or sad, and don’t want to be happy.
What you have said is most interesting and will require much thought on my part. "Hmm...I don't want to be happy?"
 
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What you have said is most interesting and will require much thought on my part. "Hmm...I don't want to be happy?"
Yeah, what it is, I like to jokingly call myself a “Special Needs 5 year old” but also “That I’m slightly emo”, I get emotional and don’t like change, plus I probably still pout, lol. Like what it is, I just get so upset, that I don’t want to be happy and just want to be miserable. I have a weird thought process, like I remember back in school, whenever I had to present something to the class, I wanted no one to clap for me and just wanted to go back to my seat. I remember when I had to get some school shots in the 7th grade, after I got the shots I ran out of the building, cause I just wanted to, probably in a effort to scare some kids, lol. Recently my stepdad really irritated me, so to let off some steam, I drove my car around the neighborhood in a area that loops back to our house without telling my mom, because I just felt like doing that.

I struggle with my weird thought process, but I wouldn’t choose to be not Autistic/Aspergers, I just legit sometimes still act like a 5 year old...a 5 year old that can get cheeky and goofy from time to time, lol.
 

Ahwatukee

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God created man and woman. Where did transgenders (not eunuchs) come from?
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Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise!f Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
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This particular on-going wrath of God is why we are seeing this outbreak of sexual immorality of every kind, because God gave them over to make one a slave of vile passions, to cause one to follow his own corrupt mind . And the reason why this is taking place is as follows:

* Because of the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness

* For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him

* They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. (The teaching of evolution).

Jude warns about those who continue in sexual immorality in regards to what Sodom and Gomorrah suffered as an example of the eternal punishment that they will suffer in the lake of fire.

"And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment." (NLT)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If God created man and woman, then the entire generation should be either man or woman. There should not be any intersex. If it is corruption, whose corruption?
a person with both parts and transgender are two different things
that may be part of the confusion
 
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eternally-gratefull

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A person that has both sex organs was born that way, it is a cause of a dna issue,

a man who has a sex change (transgender) is a person living out his sin
 

stonesoffire

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Addressing transgender only and limited to this thread. 😉

What if it was a demonic spirit wanting to live itself out in the body but with a different gender?
 

Nehemiah6

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Addressing transgender only and limited to this thread. What if it was a demonic spirit wanting to live itself out in the body but with a different gender?
That is what I was hinting at when I said that there are spiritual issues involved.

If we want to get right down to it, demons have taken control of (1) the Democratic Party, (2) BLM, (3) Antifa, and (4) all those exhibiting Trump Derangement Syndrome. Lawlessness, anarchy, rioting, looting, arson, murder, and the destruction of private and public property cannot be seen as normal. Attacking and murdering police officers, screaming vile insults at them, calling for the defunding of police, etc. all tie together for just one reason -- THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

And Satan is directly behind the Wuhan virus SCAMDEMIC which is destroying lives, businesses, economies, and freedoms (and which is tied to all of the above). The whole LGBTQ movement and the gay parades are controlled by demons. The alarming rise of pedophilia, child pornography (including the move Cuties), and human trafficking, have their roots in the evil spirit world. This is human depravity on display.
 

Blik

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I still have growing up to do, that’s for sure, lol. But I’m glad to have God and a strong network of family/family friends to rely on when I need help ^_^
You are so blessed with family. Mine turned me out and I am so old my friends all died before me so I am alone. But my trials have given me strength and it almost seems I can see the lord He is so close.

It seemed that my sister was blessed with a life spread out like a red carpet. She was our parents favorite, she had a wonderful life while mine seemed to contain such trials. One day she lamented to me "I have everything a woman can want, but I am SO unhappy".

It isn't the trials we are given to handle while we live here on earth, it is the way we handle them that is important.
James 1:2-4
Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
 

Angela53510

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I thought the OP was asking about intersex, which was formerly called hermaphrodite. This is not a condition that is a choice. I agree transgenderism is some kind Perversion, a mixed up "choice."

There was a hermaphrodite on CC a few years back, that I was friends with. Issues came up because she was acting as a woman, and people thought she was a man. She was banned, but we kept being friends until she became convinced Christ was not God. No Trinity. I have no fear of sexual deviations, but bad theology outraged me!

In our talks, she said her mom was an anesthetic nurse, used to mix the ether that was used. Her older sister was born with half a brain. She seemed like a normal boy, when she was born and up to puberty. Then, about age 12, she grew breast. Then she started having all the symptoms of a girl's puberty. It was determined she had both male and female organs she chose to be a woman.

So this situation is not a choice, but a medical issue. Just like I had Rheumatoid Arthritis in my genes, which was expressed in my 40's.

So, that is what intersex is all about! Born with both male and female organs. Nothing demonic, just a medical malady!
 

Lanolin

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if its a physical thing, something may be awry with the dna. In some animals, they are hermaphrodites, but theres still male and female (just both in the same organism) ...like worms. However they do need another organism to reproduce.

with plants, many are self fertile. (male and female parts on the same flower) But you can also get plants that have separate male and female flowers. In any case they actually need other plants to pollinate, even if the same variety.
Otherwise they can be reproduced by cloning, the problem with cloning is there is no diveristy or mixing up of dna, of course.
but for some thats actually good thing if you want an EXACT copy.

sex has always been a bit random its like having a lotto draw each time or heads or tails...will it be male or female? I am sure that sometimes people are just confused about it, maybe life has gone too fast for them and they arent even sure. Lots of things happen in the womb that can affect a baby.

The other thing is, spirits CAN and do inhabit a body no matter what sex it is, unclean spirits dont have any qualms whether its male or female. They then can make someone think they are not the gender that they are and end up disgust for their own body they find themselves possessing. It does happen.
 

UnoiAmarah

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First things, the LORD did not create man and woman, he created Man, male and female made he them. Just wanted to throw that out there in case any one reads the Declaration and runs across that part that states "all men are created equal" So it should be self evident that it wasn't referring unto only white men were created equal, it included white women too.;)

The idea that the races evolved over time is absolute denial of the obvious, being that creationist and evolutionist hold the belief that all human beings originated from a single set of homo procreators. So if races didn't evolve over time then the there could not be any rational reason for the existence of races today.

So the answer to your question where transgender people originated from is creationists and evolutionists who don't hold any truth to be self evident that all the races of men are created equal?.
 

jameen

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Will a transgender inherit eternal life?

Pls answer from whatever Christian group do you belong thanks.
 

Ahwatukee

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Will a transgender inherit eternal life?

Pls answer from whatever Christian group do you belong thanks.
If by 'transgender' you are referring to a persons identity and gender which does not correspond with their birth sex, they can inherit eternal life if they believe in Christ and repent of that sin. For it is just another form of sexual immorality.

For the person who believes Jesus said, "All sin and blaspheme shall be forgiven"
 

SoulWeaver

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If by 'transgender' you are referring to a persons identity and gender which does not correspond with their birth sex, they can inherit eternal life if they believe in Christ and repent of that sin. For it is just another form of sexual immorality.

For the person who believes Jesus said, "All sin and blaspheme shall be forgiven"
I don't think this is the sin of sexual immorality (although it is pervading in the community too) but rather the sin of coveting. Wanting something you were not given to have.

Just like any other coveting it's sin because one does not embrace contentment in God with what they have, but chase things that don't belong to them, either coveting money that belongs to others, a face they weren't born with (not speaking about plastic surgery when someone has a deformity but in case of people who are perfectly healthy ), a man or woman that doesn't rightfully belong to them (adultery), or in this case, the kind of body one was not born with.

Coveting is deception of finding completion outside of God. A person who is not satisfied with what they have today, will not be satisfied tomorrow either, even after they acquired what they thought they wanted. This is a thirst that cannot be quenched except by Jesus.
 

Ahwatukee

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I don't think this is the sin of sexual immorality (although it is pervading in the community too) but rather the sin of coveting. Wanting something you were not given to have.

Just like any other coveting it's sin because one does not embrace contentment in God with what they have, but chase things that don't belong to them, either coveting money that belongs to others, a face they weren't born with (not speaking about plastic surgery when someone has a deformity but in case of people who are perfectly healthy ), a man or woman that doesn't rightfully belong to them (adultery), or in this case, the kind of body one was not born with.

Coveting is deception of finding completion outside of God. A person who is not satisfied with what they have today, will not be satisfied tomorrow either, even after they acquired what they thought they wanted. This is a thirst that cannot be quenched except by Jesus.
Make no mistake! Transgender is a form of sexual immorality, just as same-sex and any other variation is.

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

Men lusting after men or women after women is sexual immorality and so is having sex without being married, adultery and self pleasuring. It all falls under the heading of sexual immorality of any kind.