Chosen by God - A study in Election

Calvinists should give it a rest. TULIP IS TIRESOME.

1. Unconditional election is FALSE DOCTRINE. Among many other passages John 3:16,17 thoroughly refutes it.

2. Since all men are sinners, and Christ died for all, God offers salvation freely to all mankind. That in itself is the strongest proof that Calvinistic unconditional election is not only false, BUT OPPOSES GOD AND CHRIST.

4. Furthermore Israel in the Bible is the strongest evidence that God elects none for salvation or damnation. Israel was in fact THE ELECT NATION of God. Which would mean -- according to Calvinistic logic -- that each and every Israelite should have been elected for salvation. But the history of Israel proves that because of unbelief and rebellion, only a small believing remnant of Jews were saved. Indeed God brought judgment upon Israel for the rejection of Christ.

5. Therefore with all of those Scriptures before Calvinists, it is purely WILFUL BLINDNESS to go on believing the lie that God elects some for salvation and others for damnation.

Calvinists should give it a rest. TULIP IS TIRESOME.

1. Unconditional election is FALSE DOCTRINE. Among many other passages John 3:16,17 thoroughly refutes it.

2. Since all men are sinners, and Christ died for all, God offers salvation freely to all mankind. That in itself is the strongest proof that Calvinistic unconditional election is not only false, BUT OPPOSES GOD AND CHRIST.

4. Furthermore Israel in the Bible is the strongest evidence that God elects none for salvation or damnation. Israel was in fact THE ELECT NATION of God. Which would mean -- according to Calvinistic logic -- that each and every Israelite should have been elected for salvation. But the history of Israel proves that because of unbelief and rebellion, only a small believing remnant of Jews were saved. Indeed God brought judgment upon Israel for the rejection of Christ.

5. Therefore with all of those Scriptures before Calvinists, it is purely WILFUL BLINDNESS to go on believing the lie that God elects some for salvation and others for damnation.

Please quote Scripture and show us anywhere in Scripture where it says that MAN chooses Jesus, that MAN chooses God. In fact the Bible is perfectly consistent and saying just the opposite, and this without exception.

Rev 5.9 and Mathew 24 are different verses . Things different are not the same . Context + calvinism = 0

Your using Israel to prove your theory is a mistake. It proves just the opposite. Paul is perfectly consistent on this point of election and choice throughout the Bible. Please quote Scripture and show us anywhere in Scripture where it says that MAN chooses Jesus, that MAN chooses God. In fact the Bible is perfectly consistent and saying just the opposite, and this without exception.

Rom 9
6But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel [[Jacob the elect]], 7nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” [[Isaac the chosen son]] 8That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted [[Those chosen by God]] as the seed. 9For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”

10And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man,even by our father Isaac 11(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12it was said to her,“The older shall serve the younger.” 13As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”

How does a man accept a gift, salvation, except by choice?

Christ died as a sacrificial offering for the sins of the elect, to God, for God's acceptance, and not to man for man's acceptance. After the natural man has been quickened to a new spiritual life as a babe in Christ, and after he has been weaned from the milk of the word and able to digest the meat of the word, with the knowledge of what Christ has done for him, ONLY THEN, will he accept Christ's atonement. Eternal salvation does not come as a choice for man to except. Did you have any choice in being born naturally? The same applies for your spiritual birth.

Christ died as a sacrificial offering for the sins of the elect, to God, for God's acceptance, and not to man for man's acceptance. After the natural man has been quickened to a new spiritual life as a babe in Christ, and after he has been weaned from the milk of the word and able to digest the meat of the word, with the knowledge of what Christ has done for him, ONLY THEN, will he accept Christ's atonement. Eternal salvation does not come as a choice for man to except. Did you have any choice in being born naturally? The same applies for your spiritual birth.

Your false theory does not harmonize the scriptures, mine does.

Are you stating salvation is not a gift?

Choice comes into play upon entering the world so your point does not hold.

The same applies for your spiritual birth.

How does a man accept a gift, salvation, except by choice?

Acts 13:48
Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

I am not surprised that same proof texts are used over and over again by those promoting Calvinism's unconditional election.

As you know ambiguous scripture should not be used to support a doctrine where other verses clearly dispute it.

Those who do not subscribe to Calvinism make an equally good case that the idea in context of this verse is about "arrangement and preparation" not God divine's election of one group over another.

In context....the gentiles were willing to receive what the Jews rejected

Using the same verses over and over again? Come on...... that is why they exist.

I am still waiting for ONE VERSE to be posted that states UNEQUIVOCALLY that fallen men in and of themselves
CHOOSE CHRIST. Nay, but it is God who always and forever makes the soverign choice. It was so for Israel, so it is for the Church.

If you disagree with me on this narrow point of CHOICE please prove it with relevant Scripture. I don't think it can be done.

The so called "sovereign choice" was for the promise seed line of Christ. That's why He chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That's why He chose the nation of Israel. He chose them to bring forth the promise seed of Genesis 3:15. Good grief. He didn't choose them for salvation.

But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

The so called "sovereign choice" was for the promise seed line of Christ. That's why He chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That's why He chose the nation of Israel. He chose them to bring forth the promise seed of Genesis 3:15. Good grief. He didn't choose them for salvation.

But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

You fail to acknowledge that God Has elected the godly line, in saving union with Christ Jesus.

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Unless you are in a third world country everyone you know has heard about the judgment to come, they dismiss it because they love their sin