Bill Gates Calling For Population Control Through Vaccinations

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Dude653

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The chip thing isn't going to happen
 

soggykitten

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Vaccines by definition cannot lower population. The video was edited only to instigate fear among the ignorant.
But that isn't what was actually said in the video was it. Perhaps you're interjecting a red herring?
The video never said vaccines lower population.
And of course vaccine by definition is a noun and is defined as, a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Now, as pertains to antifertility vaccines? Yes!
This has been something in research since the 30's.
https://www.cell.com/trends/immunology/comments/S1471-4906(02)02182-8

Abstract
The possibility of using immunization as a method of birth control has been explored actively since the 1930s, with several different sperm, egg or hormonal antigens having been studied as suitable targets for intervention. However, it is only in the past decade that the efficacy of vaccination against fertility has become established firmly in both humans and free-roaming animal populations. We will review recent progress in the continuing development of antifertility vaccines, with an emphasis on vaccines intended ultimately for use in humans, whilst highlighting also some of the notable successes achieved with vaccines produced for use in other species.
 

soggykitten

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The full presentation would be fair to what BG actually said at least ten years ago.

The world population now ten years and more, because this video was posted to YT ten years ago and that doesn't mean it was posted anywhere near on the day of the conference, has of course altered. "Live" world population clock sets the global population number as of this moment in the billions. 7,827,724,615
World population density The world population density is 57.0 people per square kilometer (147.7 per mi 2) as of September 2020.This number is calculated using 7,763,035,303 people as the world population and 136,120,354 km 2 (52,556,368 mi 2)as Earth's total area.This is the sum of land and water areas within international boundaries and coastlines of all the countries in the world.

This is the closest I could come to finding anywhere near the full presentation by BG.


Though he is talking about population control at the 4:41 mark. I wonder. Has both he and Melinda (of the Gates Foundation) been sterilized so as to reduce the number of carbon footprints they could birth to life on the planet in that formula of his? If they have children that are now adult, are those children voluntarily sterilizing themselves for the same cause?

Save the Earth!
EAT the rich.


Bring lots of hot sauce. My bet is they taste terrible. :sick::giggle:
As a follow-up, I checked. Bill and Melinda Gates have three adult children. No way to know if they volunteered to be sterilized. Though it is said that they're slated to inherit but 10 million each from their parents who plan to give the 90% or so of their wealth away to good causes.
*raises hand* I'm a good cause. :D A very good cause.
Cause I could use the money. Cause I could pay off my mortgage. Cause I could fix up my older car and get it out of the garage. Lots of causes I can list. :LOL:
 
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Gates is a psycho. The team is Gates, Fauci,soros and Epstein.
Oh wait,Epstein "died" with the cameras off and the guards counting their pile of cash. Wink wink.
I don't expect you to change you mind, because it was too easy for me to find this information myself, so I assume you know it but are keeping it from your intended audience, but I post it here for those who think they heard something sinister in those videos of Bill Gates theory on vaccine and population control. Unfortunately people are not being told the whole story. I think that is evil. Trying to make people think something sinister about a persons intentions by withholding information. Who's the Psycho Now?

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Ten billion dollars over the next 10 years to make it “the year of the vaccines.” What does that mean exactly?

Bill Gates: Over this decade, we believe unbelievable progress can be made, in both inventing new vaccines and making sure they get out to all the children who need them … We only need about six or seven more — and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything — the stability, the environment — benefits from that.

As discussed in a 21 November 2011 Forbes cover story profiling the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, reducing population growth has always been integral to their stated mission of “improving people’s health and giving them the chance to lift themselves out of hunger and extreme poverty”:

In 1997, when he and Melinda first ventured into public health … they focused on birth control, funding a Johns Hopkins effort to use computers to help women in the developing world learn about contraception. The logic was crisp and Bill Gates-friendly. Health = resources ÷ people. And since resources, as Gates noted, are relatively fixed, the answer lay in population control.

As further discussed in this piece, Gates later came to the conclusion that birth control was not the best approach to achieve the goal of slower population growth, instead realizing that — counterintuitively — a reduction in childhood mortality was the best way to limit population growth:

In society after society, he saw, when the mortality rate falls—specifically, below 10 deaths per 1,000 people—the birth rate follows, and population growth stabilizes. “It goes against common sense,” Gates says. Most parents don’t choose to have eight children because they want to have big families, it turns out, but because they know many of their children will die.

“If a mother and father know their child is going to live to adulthood, they start to naturally reduce their population size,” says Melinda.

This is a point Gates has made repeatedly, and his views were clearly articulated in the 2009 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Annual Letter:

A surprising but critical fact we learned was that reducing the number of deaths actually reduces population growth … Contrary to the Malthusian view that population will grow to the limit of however many kids can be fed, in fact parents choose to have enough kids to give them a high chance that several will survive to support them as they grow old. As the number of kids who survive to adulthood goes up, parents can achieve this goal without having as many children.

In other words, Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate.

As evidenced in a 2014 paper published in Science that attempted to calculate future population growth, not everyone is convinced childhood mortality is the smoking gun to quell population growth:

Among the most robust empirical findings in the literature on fertility transitions are that higher contraceptive use and higher female education are associated with faster fertility decline. These suggest that the projected rapid population growth could be moderated by greater investments in family planning programs to satisfy the unmet need for contraception and in girls’ education.

But Gates’ view on childhood mortality contribution to population growth is increasingly discussed in the scientific literature and is still subject to debate. What is not up to debate are the intentions of the Bill and Melinda Gate’s Foundation with regard to vaccines and population growth, as articulated by Bill and Melinda Gates in their Foundation’s 2017 Annual Letter:

Melinda: Saving children’s lives is the goal that launched our global work. It’s an end in itself. But then we learned it has all these other benefits as well. If parents believe their children will survive — and if they have the power to time and space their pregnancies — they choose to have fewer children.

Bill: When a mother can choose how many children to have, her children are healthier, they’re better nourished, their mental capacities are higher — and parents have more time and money to spend on each child’s health and schooling. That’s how families and countries get out of poverty. This link between saving lives, a lower birthrate, and ending poverty was the most important early lesson Melinda and I learned about global health.

PUBLISHED 10 MARCH 2017 And YET HIS COMPLETE TRANSCRIPTS GET IGNORED BY THOSE WHO seem to wish he wanted to kill people. Who is evil, bill Gates or the people who have heard his complete explanation but will not share it along with their cheesy video mash ups? Who's the psycho now? :unsure:
 

soggykitten

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BG talked about two different areas, vaccines and reproductive health care. Which some people interpret as abortion.



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co2 is warming the planet and the
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equation on co2 is actually a very
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straightforward one if you sum up the
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co2 that gets emitted that leads to a
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temperature increase and that
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temperature increase leads to some very
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negative effects the effects on the
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weather perhaps worse the indirect
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effects in that the natural ecosystems
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can't adjust to these rapid changes and
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so you get ecosystem collapses now the
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exact amount of how you map from a
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certain increase in of co2 to what
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temperature will be and where the
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positive feedbacks are there's some
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uncertainty there but not very much and
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there's certainly uncertainty about how
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bad those effects will be but they will
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be extremely bad I asked the top
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scientists and at several times do we
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really have to get down to near zero
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can't we just you know cut it in half or
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a quarter and the answer is that until
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we get near to zero the temperature will
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continue to rise and so that's that's a
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big challenge it's very different than
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saying you know we're a 12-foot high
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truck trying to get under a ten foot
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bridge and we can just sort of squeeze
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under this is something that has to get
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to zero now we put out a lot of carbon
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dioxide every year over twenty six
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billion tons for each American it's
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about 20 tons for people in poor
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countries it's less than one ton it's an
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average about five tons for everyone on
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the planet and somehow we have to make
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changes that will bring that down to
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zero it's been constantly going up it's
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only various economic changes that have
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even flattened it all so we have to go
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from rapidly rising to falling and
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falling all the way to zero this
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equation has four factors a little bit
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of multiplication so you've got a thing
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on the Left co2 that you want to get to
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zero and that's going to be based on the
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number of people the services each
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person's using on average the energy on
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average for each service and the co2
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being put out a per unit of energy
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so let's look at each one of these and
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see how we can get this down to zero
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probably one of these numbers is gonna
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have to get pretty near to zero now
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that's back from a high school algebra
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but let's let's take a look first we've
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got population now the world today has
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6.8 billion people that's headed up to
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about 9 billion now if we do a really
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great job on new vaccines health care
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reproductive health services we could
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lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent[/quote]
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but there we see an increase of about
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1.3 this new vaccines new vaccines new
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vaccines healthcare reproductive health
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services we could lower that by perhaps
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10 or 15 percent
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Dude653

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I watch the first video. The second video gives more context into what he mentioned in the first.
Vaccines increase overall health and as he mentioned in the second video there's a correlation between better health and people having fewer children
 
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I watch the first video. The second video gives more context into what he mentioned in the first.
Vaccines increase overall health and as he mentioned in the second video there's a correlation between better health and people having fewer children
In science its a well known fact that correlation does not equal causation as there are many factors that can make a difference...
Also one has to put their faith in what BG is saying there as he doesn't refer us to a particular statistical data...

A lot of people have only seen the first video and not the second... I personally don't find his explanation to be very convincing...
Its another suspicious coincidence from BG... Who would have guessed that the answer to lowering population growth was what he was already doing for 10 years...
 
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Eugenics runs in his family. His father was one and so was his mother, one of them was the president of planned parenthood...
His grandfather was also a heavy eugenicist for the German Nazis...
 
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The chip thing isn't going to happen
Probably not in this vaccine but BG does own a patent for "ID2020" which is like a chip...
For now they will use a phone app like they are in China...

 
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Dude653

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In science its a well known fact that correlation does not equal causation as there are many factors that can make a difference...
Also one has to put their faith in what BG is saying there as he doesn't refer us to a particular statistical data...

A lot of people have only seen the first video and not the second... I personally don't find his explanation to be very convincing...
Its another suspicious coincidence from BG... Who would have guessed that the answer to lowering population growth was what he was already doing for 10 years...
Yeah but he never claims that correlation is causation so that's a straw man
 

Dude653

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If you ever had to stand in line at Walmart for 20 minutes? We have enough people on the planet
they are as population is headed towards unsustainable levels so people having fewer children wouldn't be a bad thing
 

gb9

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If you ever had to stand in line at Walmart for 20 minutes? We have enough people on the planet
they are as population is headed towards unsustainable levels so people having fewer children wouldn't be a bad thing
how about individual people making their own decision about their lives??


i mean , telling people how many kids they can have is a bad, bad thing...
 

Dude653

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how about individual people making their own decision about their lives??


i mean , telling people how many kids they can have is a bad, bad thing...
Yeah but that's not what he said so there's that