What 3 verses say that a lost man cannot believe the gospel?

It’s deceptive though, and just adds the the deceptive view of others beliefs, and will just add to the anger or hurt of those who are being misrepresented

All?

are You not arguing what the word all means?

Nope God elected everyone to there free will choices in his foreknowledge when he created Adam.
That is why it says shall the clay say to the potter why have you made me thus (knowing what i would choose to become)
He predestined them all at creation to their own choices.
Yet God himself is not desiring that even one should perish but that all should come to repentance.

it still is god who does the choosing, based on his sovereign will, and not yourself which is why I asked.

Yet God himself is not desiring that even one should perish but that all should come to repentance.
Has the will or desiring of God failed
Or does it depend on our choices and that is why God is patient with us?

Everyone who hears the Name Jesus Christ makes a choice whether or not to believe in Him. You’re saying people who choose to believe in Jesus are electing themselves to salvation? Where do you get this crap? Show me where that crap is written in Scripture?

I'm the one that called you out for changing God's words to your liking. Why are you unable to address the scripture as written?

You already did tell yourself.

Why are you unable to hold to what the scripture actually says? Rather than, as you have done, add your own words and descriptions? Those are not of God. They are of you.

That sounds calvinistic bro.

John 12:31-32

When I say a lost man can not repent I mean an unsaved person that Is either physically dead or reprobate.

I guess the man made term, freewillers, is suppose to be an insult levied by those who prefer themselves to be robots of a lesser god. That's sad. But that's the Tulip bunch is it not?
Pride is a deadly sin. Those who are certain they were predetermined by God to be saved must not realize that in their zeal they're also saying, God predetermined whom he would damn to Hell. And all that before he created anything at all.
That's what the Tulip denominations teach. And people believe without thinking. Why? Because they're totally depraved and unable to. That is the T part of that dread cultish flower.

It becomes a truism, oops, there's another T, however when the believers in the Tulip in their pride and zeal as the assured Heaven bound elect in the garden of deception fail to realize one thing about Tulip.
It in its entirety makes Jesus and his death unnecessary. It vacates entirely the gospel, and the crucifixion and resurrection.

That makes the Tulip to have an addendum or, an added bud to the petals if you will. The, S, for Satanic!

Think about how Tulip paints its god and recall the true gospel. Tulip is the antithesis of the gospel. The so called supporting scriptures for its petals, the T u l i p, are of course false as well and wholly out of context. They have to be in order to support the antithesis of Salvation. That's what the S stands for in the true Gospel of our Lord; Salvation!

Thus, Genesis is also put into a corrupt context, has to be, in order for the Tulip cult flower to exist.

Like so: Satan predetermined whom he would lead to believe in him to be saved from damnation before the world would be created. And this is why after that creation he slithered up into the one tree forbidden the first people and led the woman to eat of that fruit that would damn the world due to her mate Adam's eating of it. By one man sin entered the world. And as such, Satan's preconceived list of those whom his false teaching that would make Jesus of none effect, was made possible.

Because without the first people damning themselves and their offspring, the predetermined ones among them, determined from Genesis unto Revelation through Satan's planning, to be saved from that damnation, would not have come to exist so as to fulfill Satan's preplanned list of those he would lead to think they were saved by following him!
And why not then would the T mean his chosen ones are Totally depraved? What else could they be when Satan made himself their master before anything came to exist?
God knows everyone who is ever born because all things come from God. He is the creator of all that exists. But when Satan puts his mark on those whom he claims he will lead to follow him , knowing them by their sins. Which is why his followers are known as those totally depraved and unable to accept the Gospel of God's grace. Everything in the false Tulip teaching is all Satan all the time. Because, and it makes sense in this context, Satan predetermined those whom he would call to follow him by its (Tulip's) dictates. Those who find their way to Tulip do so because Satan brings them forth because he has insured his chosen are totally depraved! Think about what that actually means.
TOTALLY DEPRAVED!
Does that sound like God's creation? Or Satan's creature instead.
And this is why Satan's totally depraved predestined followers simply follow where Satan leads them in the rest of the acronym of Tulip. Satan has everything to do with the vestiges of the Tulip properties.
Satan calls those whom he's led to be totally depraved to him and by their sin, which being the adversary of God is the name of Satan's followers; sin.
Those followers being totally depraved are of course unable to choose the light so of course being Tulip teaches the Totally Depraved are predetermined to be followers of Tulip, it stands to reason those followers have not a thing to do with choosing not to follow Satan That's why they have been unconditionally elected into Satan's service. That's the u part of Tulip. Their condition was already predetermined as being one who is Totally depraved. And of course that makes sense then that it is a limited atonement into the Tulip cult doctrine. Because God being God isn't about to let the whole world fall into Satan's trap. The limited atonement then naturally refers to those whom Satan had already predetermined before the world was created to become his and by their sins did he know them. And that's why his one's are always those who are TOTALLY Depraved.
Those in Christ are not totally depraved else we'd be one of Satan's Tulip's. Unable to find Christ on our own because of what Total Depravity as defined is a state that makes one incapable of recognizing the light. And this is because the darkness has already claimed by their sins the Totally Depraved ones.
And of course Satan, being the antithesis of grace who predetermined the totally depraved would be unconditionally elected into his doctrine, has insured his planning before the world came to exist is irresistible to those whom he has already predetermined to be his. Being Satan it is the antithesis of actual grace. And finally, the p in Tulip. Perseverance of the saints.
Jesus Gospel isn't conditional salvation. It is eternal irrevocable salvation because it is a free gift of God's grace, and God's gifts are irrevocable, as Paul says in Romans 11:29. That is why the minions of Satan's Tulip doctrine are his till the end. And being the antithesis and that which is adverse to all things holy, it is naturally called, perseverance so as to imply, as the p in Tulip, Satan's minions will remain his unto death. Because if everything is Satan oriented and controlled, it is of course a lie from the pit that his chosen ones have to persevere of their own accord to remain in his Tulip when they did nothing of their own, could do nothing as totally depraved people, in order to be in its number in the first place.


That's how to understand Tulip!


While God knows us by our name! And we are not totally depraved else God would be a liar in John 3:16 and all those scriptures in both the old and new testaments that inform us we are able to find him.
Jeremiah 29:13
"You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart."

Matthew 7:7-8 ESV / 1,141 helpful votes
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened."
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Psalm 9:10
And those who know your name put their trust in you, for you, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek you.

Matthew 7:7-8
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened."

In summary nothing good or biblical in Calvinism.

Ballgame! 😎

This to me is someone reaching out

you cooperated to earn your salvation?

that’s what grandpa and others think you seemed to be agreeing with him..

Yet 4 posts and you have not proven a thing just made accusations,

I see your sister who loves to mock is liking your posts, I guess your two peas in a pod. And I see she has earned the right to remain in my prayer bin

i don’t play games my friend, you want to act that way find someone else.
good day

Not really, even in their view if Jesus did not die no one could be saved,

so the kitten is mistaken, at least in that comment

we should stop trying to destroy them so much we say and think things that are not close to being true, we hurt our own cause when we do this

With respect, EG, their views are incorrect and worthless while what Soggy said to counter their views is spot on accurate.