BLM does not make sense

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"America is now the least racist white majority society in the world. Has a better record of legal protections of minorites than any other societies white or black. Offers more opportunities to a greater number of black persons than any other society, including all those of Africa".

Orlando Patterson, 1991, sociologist, left wing, Harvard teacher, known for his work regarding issues of race in the United States.

It is now a standard trope, implanted in freshmen summer reading lists through the works of Ta-Nehesi Coates and others, that whites pose a severe, if not mortal, threat to blacks.

Just this month, the Bureau of Justice Statistics released its 2018 survey of criminal victimization.

According to the study, there were 593,598 interracial violent victimizations (excluding homicide) between blacks and whites last year, including white-on-black and black-on-white attacks.

Blacks committed 537,204 of those interracial felonies, or 90 percent, and whites committed 56,394 of them, or less than 10 percent.

Blacks are also overrepresented among perpetrators of hate crimes—by 50 percent—according to the most recent Justice Department data from 2017; whites are underrepresented by 24 percent.

It does not matter if it is a white police officer, or a white civilian, prejudice is prejudice, if they can really prove it's prejudice.

But America has a better opportunity for black people than any other nation, so if they cry about America they will have to cry about the whole world for they would not have it better.

And black people commit more felonies against white people than white people commit against black people.

And they see all the black people who are successful being millionaires, and billionaires, and great jobs, and doing all the jobs that white people are doing.

So BLM does not make sense given this information.

But it makes sense for there is an agenda there to try to make a change to go towards a more strict government where all are equal economically, and social status wise.

And many black people probably do not care if freedoms are gone, and no more pursuit of money and material things to go above their wants, and do not care if they knock down all the black people who are rich and successful, as long as they can bring the white people down and they lose everything for all will be equal.

All the while America treats them better, and more opportunities than any other nation on the planet, and they commit felonies against white people than white people commit against them.
 

Lanolin

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well it could be argued those stats are skeweed because there are probably more unreported interacial attacks than those reported.

A lot of people wont report them because the police wont actually do anything about them. Do you actually get it. I dont suppose you do?

Its like people will say well theres no child abuse and no domestic violence because the stats dont show reports. well of course they dont because its covered up, and people dont report it because EVEN if they do, nothing really gets done about it.
 

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I would say BLM isn't meant to make sense. They were invented in order to widen the racial divide and implant an, us vs. them racist dynamic into the American landscape.
To say that black lives matter is to imply Onlyism. As in, only black lives matter. As BLM's commercial tells us. "Because no lives matter until black lives matter!"
BLM exploits and upholds the victim mentality hopes to supplant with it the actual advances in the racial demographic as pertains to the advancement and progress politics and the laws have afforded the black community.
BLM hopes to enslave the black community to their way of thinking so that two things at the very least are achieved. The, you owe us, ideology. And the, as they've also said, we'll destroy all that exists in America until we are seated and recognized as racially superior.

The attack on the civil war monuments is but one example demonstrating there is no rationality extant in BLM. If it were not for the civil war BLM would not exist. As a matter of fact, destroying civil war statues desecrates the graves and the historic record as pertains to those black men who fought with the north in the civil war. Over 100 thousand black men volunteered to fight the southern armies and are remembered as heroes.

When any BLM member desecrates a civil war statue it is the same as spitting on the sacrifice of all those brave soldiers who died to set them free.

BLM are terrorists. They're not made to make sense. They're created to be evil. And they're at this point over achievers.
 

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I would say BLM isn't meant to make sense. They were invented in order to widen the racial divide and implant an, us vs. them racist dynamic into the American landscape.
To say that black lives matter is to imply Onlyism. As in, only black lives matter. As BLM's commercial tells us. "Because no lives matter until black lives matter!"
BLM exploits and upholds the victim mentality hopes to supplant with it the actual advances in the racial demographic as pertains to the advancement and progress politics and the laws have afforded the black community.
BLM hopes to enslave the black community to their way of thinking so that two things at the very least are achieved. The, you owe us, ideology. And the, as they've also said, we'll destroy all that exists in America until we are seated and recognized as racially superior.

The attack on the civil war monuments is but one example demonstrating there is no rationality extant in BLM. If it were not for the civil war BLM would not exist. As a matter of fact, destroying civil war statues desecrates the graves and the historic record as pertains to those black men who fought with the north in the civil war. Over 100 thousand black men volunteered to fight the southern armies and are remembered as heroes.

When any BLM member desecrates a civil war statue it is the same as spitting on the sacrifice of all those brave soldiers who died to set them free.

BLM are terrorists. They're not made to make sense. They're created to be evil. And they're at this point over achievers.
I don't give a fudge about civil War monuments. They can all come down for all I care
 

Nehemiah6

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So BLM does not make sense given this information.
Do you seriously think that BLM cares about facts or truth? They are domestic terrorists and anarchists, bent on doing damage to as many people, properties, and cities as possible, and at every opportunity. Since they are heavily funded, they do not heed to worry about their next paycheck. They are being paid to steal, kill, and destroy.

So why have they not all been locked up? Because no one has the guts to deal with them seriously. They have been given free rein by the very same people who were elected or appointed and paid to maintain law and order. And I believe the President of the USA should take full responsibility for this chaos and destruction nationwide. This is a national emergency calling for a national response, and all the baloney about states' rights is meaningless in this context.
 

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Wasn't just Civil War monuments...
Very true. As of the printing of the following article dated July 22nd , 183 monuments have been ruined since the domestic terror attacks jumped off in America. https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/22/list-of-183-monuments-ruined-since-protests-began-and-counting/


And thanks to Trump those vandal domestic terrorists face ten years in prison mandatory for destroying federal property. :D God knows I love that man.
FOUR MORE YEARS!
Keeping America great! In spite of the enemy wanting us to fail.
 

Nehemiah6

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Wasn't just Civil War monuments...
Exactly. And even if they were civil war monuments, absolutely NO ONE had the right to destroy them or bring them down. The Civil War cost WHITE LIVES to free BLACK LIVES. And that war was really unnecessary. A peaceful settlement could have been made long before any talk of war.

However, over the past four years, measures should have been taken by the Trump administration to keep a constant 24/7 watch over all sites nationwide (including statues, monuments, and memorials, as well as all federal buildings, nuclear plants, electrical grids, etc) which could be targeted by terrorists -- domestic or foreign.

There have been enough attacks in the past to warrant such protection. There was already a precedent since 1995 when Timothy McVeigh bombed a federal building.

"Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 - June 11, 2001) was an American domestic terrorist who carried out the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people and injured more than 680 others, and destroyed one third of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The bombing was the deadliest act of terrorism in the United States prior to the September 11 attacks."

With the drone technology which has been available for years, no human guards or soldiers would have been necessary. And any attempt to desecrate, vandalize, or destroy should have been met with non-lethal force from drones. Terrorists are essentially cowards and bullies, and once they understand that they will be dealt with very severely, they will back off.

What has been happening is the USA is total anarchy while all levels of government simply stood by. So now who is going to go after negligent government officials and politicians and charge them malfeasance or worse? All the Leftist mayors and governors should already have been locked up.
 
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Do you seriously think that BLM cares about facts or truth? They are domestic terrorists and anarchists, bent on doing damage to as many people, properties, and cities as possible, and at every opportunity. Since they are heavily funded, they do not heed to worry about their next paycheck. They are being paid to steal, kill, and destroy.

So why have they not all been locked up? Because no one has the guts to deal with them seriously. They have been given free rein by the very same people who were elected or appointed and paid to maintain law and order. And I believe the President of the USA should take full responsibility for this chaos and destruction nationwide. This is a national emergency calling for a national response, and all the baloney about states' rights is meaningless in this context.
I do not understand your post when I am against BLM and all their folly.

Are you yelling at me as if I said something wrong.

I said BLM does not make sense for they cry about the white people all the while they commit more felonies against white people than white people against them, and they are treated better in America than any other nation.

So why are they crying.

Who cares if they do not care about facts and opinions that is not the point of the post, but that they are wrong in their protest and riots all the while they are treated better in this nation then any other nation, and they commit more felonies against white people then white people do against them.

Of course they do not care about facts and opinions but why are you yelling at me when I am pointing out they are not justified in what they are doing.

I am only pointing out that they are not justified in their protests, but who cares if they do not care about that but they will still protest but that is not the point of the post that I made.
 

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IMHO more felonies have been perpetrated on the streets of Portland during the past two months, than in the rest of the nation combined for the same period. If every perpetrator were fined the maximum for his crimes, what could the state of Oregon accomplish?
 

hornetguy

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I don't give a fudge about civil War monuments. They can all come down for all I care
Well, that's because you're still an idiot.... :LOL:

Seriously, Dude.... we are talking about history... the history of our nation. Should we tear down statues of George Washington Carver? Or Frederick Douglass?
 
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I think people who loot, vandalize should be punished, and people who assault others should be charged with attempted murder depending on the scale of the attack, if necessary.

BLM has the right to peacefully protest, and march on the streets, all they want.

We have to find out what is causing the underlying anger, especially towards whites, and why the anger lingers until today. Having harsh punishments for looting, vandalizing, etc. is not going to stop the underlying anger.

Monuments can be removed, but should be voted on first. If the majority of the people want the monuments to go, they should go. For example, Savannah GA has a mostly black population, however there are mulitple Confederate statues there. If the majority of people in Savannah want to do away with the Confederate statuses, they should be able to do so. Or if a group of anti-Confederate people want to build a bigger taller monument next to the Confederate monument, granted they are able to buy the land next to it, that should be allowed as well.

I can see from the viewpoint of blacks if they view a Confederate monument the same way a Jew may view a monument of a Nazi war hero. While the South did not commit genocide, they did terrible things like divide families apart, and all sorts of physical punishments such as whippings and brandings. That is something to keep in mind when deciding to keep the monuments, especially if the monuments are seen as a remembrance of these bad events of the past and is a hindrance towards forging new beginnings.

Finally, history is always written by the winners. While Southerners may want to maintain some memory of the great Southern heros, they may not have this option.

I do think it makes no sense for BLM to vandalize statues unrelated to the slavery issue, such as the Ghandi's statue in DC.
 

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BLM is an admitted (proudly) Marxist organization. That disturbing fact, along with the fact that they have willingly allowed ANTIFA to take over their "protest" is enough for me to say "NOPE" to BLM.

The statement/fact that black lives matter is true.... what this group represents is NOT about that.
 

hornetguy

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From the NY Post....

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.
Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview

Do you want to follow Marxists? Anarchists? Become a domestic terrorist?

I don't. And I have almost zero tolerance for those that do....
 
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No you did not say anything wrong. But you need to understand that BLM is not supposed to make sense. It is SENSELESS ANARCHISM.
BLM does not care and neither does the agenda of the Democrats.

I know it does not make sense but I still worded it like that for it would seem like they would have sense enough not to protest and riot, and burn, and loot, and hurt people, seeing they know the truth that black people are not oppressed, and all people act the same.

But it is an agenda and their boldness must be because many are intentionally causing division so they push a marxist agenda, which the founders are marxist.
 

soggykitten

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Well, that's because you're still an idiot.... :LOL:

Seriously, Dude.... we are talking about history... the history of our nation. Should we tear down statues of George Washington Carver? Or Frederick Douglass?
I reckoned this days earlier and was told by someone who has been a member for quite awhile that it is typical of Dude's posting. They're here acting as a Contrarian.
You may notice they have a pattern of posting contrary to what is rational or, when replying to someone's opinion, they post contrary to that.
I was married to someone who was a Contrarian. It was an actual mental issue with them. They couldn't help themselves. While, on a forum it doesn't necessarily have to be that. It can be that someone who posts as such is trolling in their own way.

This is a Christian forum after all. Have you looked at their profile picture? A goth guy holding a bloody bat that is wrapped with barbwire is the contrary image of what is Christ-like. Get it? Jesus was nailed to a cross with a crown of thorns, which is an actual thorn bush, around his head. Dude's logo features a goth, dead man, holding a blood soaked wooden bat wrapped with barbwire at its head. Antithesis.
I don't think we're meant to take Dude seriously. At least I know I don't.
Just my two coppers.
 

soggykitten

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BLM does not care and neither does the agenda of the Democrats.

I know it does not make sense but I still worded it like that for it would seem like they would have sense enough not to protest and riot, and burn, and loot, and hurt people, seeing they know the truth that black people are not oppressed, and all people act the same.

But it is an agenda and their boldness must be because many are intentionally causing division so they push a marxist agenda, which the founders are marxist.
There could be a method to the elected Democrats and their hired domestic terrorists madness.

Think about it. If the domestic terrorists currently terrorizing parts of America unabated by law enforcement or elected officials in those areas continue to wreak havoc and pose a threat to life and property, the worse it is allowed to get the more people suffering the terror will call for action from, who else, government officials.

Chaos and terrorism in the public domain is cause for government to step in and offer to quell the problem with? More laws! Restrictions on liberty and freedoms because we were not responsible when having those in full before, which is why the chaos and domestic terrorism broke out, so in order to restore order we are told we have to surrender a few of our rights and freedoms. (Recall how that transpired right after 9-11 and when the U.S. Patriot act was passed into law and made news. And don't forget the National Defense Authorization Act, (NDAA) first signed into law by BHO and signed again into law by President Trump. (S. 1790) This law among other things allows for indefinite detention! All under the auspices of combating terrorism on American soil.
But, "terrorism" is a relative term. Remember the people that were reported missing shortly after 9-11? Turned out they were arrested as terror suspects and were being held in many cases in our state prisons. Without trial, without access to a phone to make their one call to family or an attorney, and without being arraigned.

Does it make sense that elected officials, mayors, governors, would stand idle and permit domestic terrorism in the streets of the cities and states they oversee? Democratic or blue state cities.

Or could these failures in leadership actually be following orders from the Democrats on Capitol Hill and the deep pockets who buy them?
Members of Congress make less than $200,000 per Annum. (per year). How is it then that every long serving member of Congress is a millionaire?

What if all that is transpiring now and is allowed to continue is based on the expectation by the Left in D.C. that their party will sweep November? And as such, will then sweep in and execute law and order where the domestic terrorists have been let to act with impunity. And as such what is maybe even officially declared, Authoritarianism, will enter in as the rule of law literally for all of America. Due to the lawlessness that occurred unabated these many months and in unabated. And also, during the Coronavirus lock down.

While, if Trump wins, please God let him win and the GOP take majority in both houses of Congress, the lawlessness stops because those domestic terrorists are then arrested. And those elected officials that allowed it to continue are too. Because the Republican party doesn't have to worry about image so as to gain votes any more.
 

soggykitten

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There could be a method to the elected Democrats and their hired domestic terrorists madness.

Think about it. If the domestic terrorists currently terrorizing parts of America unabated by law enforcement or elected officials in those areas continue to wreak havoc and pose a threat to life and property, the worse it is allowed to get the more people suffering the terror will call for action from, who else, government officials.

Chaos and terrorism in the public domain is cause for government to step in and offer to quell the problem with? More laws! Restrictions on liberty and freedoms because we were not responsible when having those in full before, which is why the chaos and domestic terrorism broke out, so in order to restore order we are told we have to surrender a few of our rights and freedoms. (Recall how that transpired right after 9-11 and when the U.S. Patriot act was passed into law and made news. And don't forget the National Defense Authorization Act, (NDAA) first signed into law by BHO and signed again into law by President Trump. (S. 1790) This law among other things allows for indefinite detention! All under the auspices of combating terrorism on American soil.
But, "terrorism" is a relative term. Remember the people that were reported missing shortly after 9-11? Turned out they were arrested as terror suspects and were being held in many cases in our state prisons. Without trial, without access to a phone to make their one call to family or an attorney, and without being arraigned.

Does it make sense that elected officials, mayors, governors, would stand idle and permit domestic terrorism in the streets of the cities and states they oversee? Democratic or blue state cities.

Or could these failures in leadership actually be following orders from the Democrats on Capitol Hill and the deep pockets who buy them?
Members of Congress make less than $200,000 per Annum. (per year). How is it then that every long serving member of Congress is a millionaire?

What if all that is transpiring now and is allowed to continue is based on the expectation by the Left in D.C. that their party will sweep November? And as such, will then sweep in and execute law and order where the domestic terrorists have been let to act with impunity. And as such what is maybe even officially declared, Authoritarianism, will enter in as the rule of law literally for all of America. Due to the lawlessness that occurred unabated these many months and in unabated. And also, during the Coronavirus lock down.

While, if Trump wins, please God let him win and the GOP take majority in both houses of Congress, the lawlessness stops because those domestic terrorists are then arrested. And those elected officials that allowed it to continue are too. Because the Republican party doesn't have to worry about image so as to gain votes any more.
Adding. Yeah, like I haven't flapped my gums long enough already.


Remember when BHO was caught on hot-mic saying to the Russian official, prime minister (?) as he said, I'll be able to do more come my second term.

I think when a public official doesn't have to concern themselves with the votes for re-election, they feel free to do more than when they do. That could be what is happening here. Because remember, and I adore this President, Trump switched parties many times in his life. He use to be a Democrat. This means when he was just a private billionaire citizen he rubbed elbows with those now on Capitol Hill. He even said when he was first in office, that he gave money to members of the different parties. And when he needed something done later on, he called them and it got done.

I don't think those relationships were severed just because he's a Republican in office now. In fact, what we could be seeing is a carefully thought out play. The Antagonist and Protagonist parts played out in public to let us think the Dem's are the bad guys and Trump and the Right are the good. When in reality they're all in it together so as to create a wholly different America in the end.

And we're the "fans" watching from the cheap seats thinking what we're seeing is a real axis and allies battle between the Left and Right. And which in truth is actually akin to pro-wrestling, and Trump is good friends with a man who made his millions in that sport, wherein the whole thing is a fix from the beginning. And ultimately it is only us who think it's real because those politicians (wrestlers) know it isn't.

Trump keeps Tweeting, Law and Order. Even used that when he was first running for office.

What will quell the domestic terrorists now active? Law and Order!
Or, Authoritarianism!