How Should Christians Vote?

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Ronja

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That's a lot of words to say you think think material possessions are worth more than people.

"Spiritual status: unsure"

And which group's ideals do you represent, if I may ask?
That is not what I said. Sry if I made it look that way.
 

soggykitten

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Tsss “the Ungodly”. For me, Trump is one of the most “ungodly” people out there.
Not hardly. But then again, you appear to support the Democrats who are so ungodly as to have used the Satanic inverted pentagram as this years DNC Convention logo.
You won't see that happening at the RNC!
 

soggykitten

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Let me repeat:
It was a Republican Supreme Court that approved SAME-SEX MARRIAGE (with a controlled Republican House and Senate).

Roe v. Wade Approved By Republican Appointees. A 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, legalized abortion by a 7-2 vote. Six of the seven justices in the majority were Republican. This also includes same sex marriage - Republicans legalized same sex marriage.

The same conservatives who approve these abominations against God wants you to vote for them while condemning others. There are many self righteous hypocrites using religion, who attempt to take parts here and there and mix them with their own opinion to create some standard to "un-save" others, while they do not keep the standard they would teach and lay upon others. This is not "loving others as yourself" this is loving yourself and allowing mercy for yourself, while attempting to condemn others by a standard you do not keep. When did the truth change because of who’s saying it, instead of what Jesus said? There is not a name under heaven who has the authority to change truth. Wake up people of God! I pray that the Lord take us back to when we first believed. When we were consumed by His love, and full of joy unspeakable!


Romans 1:32 NLT - They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

Revelation 18:23 says it like this, "Satan has deceived and led astray every nation by sorcery and black magic."


“33 So you shall not pollute the land wherein you are: for blood it defiles the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him who shed it (if a person commits cold-blooded murder, and there are two or more eye witnesses, such a person must be executed; to not take proper steps in such situations pollutes the land; so that means, regarding the untold thousands of abortions performed each year in the United States, that the land is polluted with blood; one day God will demand payment).

34 Defile not therefore the land which you shall inhabit, wherein I dwell: for I the LORD dwell among the Children of Israel. (This was under the old Law; however, it applies presently to the nations of the world which consider themselves to be predominantly Christian. God does not change, even as God cannot change.)” Num. 35

Excerpt From
The Expositor's Study Bible
Jimmy Swaggart
https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-expositors-study-bible/id399697870
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In both cases, Roe v. Wade and Obergefell v. Hodges, the decision involved the 14th amendment.

And you're not being totally honest as pertains to the Obergefell v. Hodges case, what is known as the gay marriage ruling. The Conservative justices in that case filed papers pertaining to their dissent concerning the 5 to 4 decision, Roberts being the deciding vote. Lets just say the Conservatives were a little ticked off that the ruling went the way it did and put it in writing.

Roberts is a RINO. His failing shouldn't mar the entire Conservative judges panel.
 

soggykitten

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I don’t know if I want to discuss this with you. Given that in our discussions about immigration you choose to judge an entire group of people built up of millions of individuals, deciding they are rapists.
I don’t understand how a person being pro-life is fighting for a baby that is barely formed, have no memories, personality or feelings, and not children who with their families dream of a better life in a land without war and famine.
And the tings you said about Sweden are incorrect, so I cannot believe your “facts” ether.

You are very right, we do have a long way to go. But I think we should walk it in respect of each other. Not judging, not calling people “of the devil” because they don’t think the way we do.
I learned a long time ago that nobody does anything for no reason at all. Everybody have their reason for doing an abortion, for trying to enter a country illegally, for voting the way they vote. Instead of judging them right away and curse them, perhaps we could be open minded and try to see things from their point of view? Jesus told us to love our neighbor and to not judge. We are all at fault and to point fingers and say that something/someone is pure evil is not the right way to go.
You really don't get it. What you're arguing for in the case of illegal entry into the United States is that foreign people should not have to abide by our immigration laws. And due to the fact they're foreigners wanting to get into America.

You have no moral platform upon which to base your argument when you think laws should be violated and certain people have a right to violate them.

There are lawful means available for anyone to enter America. But you oppose that.

That's immoral.
 

soggykitten

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well try captivity you have no vote then LOL
Not a chance. ;) I live in America. Vote or not captivity isn't a possibility.
Unless of course I commit a crime and am sentenced for it. Not a chance of that either.
(of committing a crime or being caught? Curious and curiouser minds want to know. Let 'em guess, I say. :ROFL: )
 
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I don’t know if I want to discuss this with you. Given that in our discussions about immigration you choose to judge an entire group of people built up of millions of individuals, deciding they are rapists.
I don’t understand how a person being pro-life is fighting for a baby that is barely formed, have no memories, personality or feelings, and not children who with their families dream of a better life in a land without war and famine.
And the tings you said about Sweden are incorrect, so I cannot believe your “facts” ether.

You are very right, we do have a long way to go. But I think we should walk it in respect of each other. Not judging, not calling people “of the devil” because they don’t think the way we do.
I learned a long time ago that nobody does anything for no reason at all. Everybody have their reason for doing an abortion, for trying to enter a country illegally, for voting the way they vote. Instead of judging them right away and curse them, perhaps we could be open minded and try to see things from their point of view? Jesus told us to love our neighbor and to not judge. We are all at fault and to point fingers and say that something/someone is pure evil is not the right way to go.
I did not say all refugees were rapist. But them flooding Europe did spike the crime rates on murder and rape. It is what it is.
What is incorrect about Sweden? It are facts that European women dye their hair to avoid assaults. Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe. What you do is repeating what you hear from the left, what I do is repeating what I hear from people that are living in Sweden.

I have no respect for governments harvesting baby tissue whatsoever.

We were debating abortion, I don’t know why you try to divert it to this. You are trying to sugarcoat the killing of innocent life simply because a mother “can’t” take care of the baby. If you can’t do it in the west you can’t do it anywhere and maybe those people should get education in real biology. To aavoid getting pregnant and use their head. Rather then genderideology and all that other demonic stuff coming from globalist lefties. Things are what they are and we should not shove them away because they are offensive to a single mother or whatever.
 

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By voting for the Donald Trump Party, as the RNC just described themselves, then by the OP's own logic, how can any Christian vote the Donald Trump Party? In so doing, you convey your support for porn, adultery, sexual assault, treason, extortion, cursing, racism, hatred, leaving the poor high and dry, and narcissism. To name a few.

And you want to call us hypocrites for voting DEMOCRAT?!??
 
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By voting for the Donald Trump Party, as the RNC just described themselves, then by the OP's own logic, how can any Christian vote the Donald Trump Party? In so doing, you convey your support for porn, adultery, sexual assault, treason, extortion, cursing, racism, hatred, leaving the poor high and dry, and narcissism. To name a few.

And you want to call us hypocrites for voting DEMOCRAT?!??
LOL you really like president Trump don’t you? :) Someone has a secret crush...
 

acts5_29

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Yep, I do.

On Canada.

The crush is not mutual.
 
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Yep, I do.

On Canada.

The crush is not mutual.
I think you have a secret crush on Trump. A lot of people camouflage their love with hate not to get hurt.
It’s ok. We all love Trump so we understand.
 

bojack

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By voting for the Donald Trump Party, as the RNC just described themselves, then by the OP's own logic, how can any Christian vote the Donald Trump Party? In so doing, you convey your support for porn, adultery, sexual assault, treason, extortion, cursing, racism, hatred, leaving the poor high and dry, and narcissism. To name a few.

And you want to call us hypocrites for voting DEMOCRAT?!??
LOL , Is that you Hillary ?
 

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Not a chance. ;) I live in America. Vote or not captivity isn't a possibility.
Unless of course I commit a crime and am sentenced for it. Not a chance of that either.
(of committing a crime or being caught? Curious and curiouser minds want to know. Let 'em guess, I say. :ROFL: )
FYI so do I and yes it can happen trying living in CA and be a church who stays open.
 

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July 1, 2020 Biden and Dems Are Set to Abolish the Suburbs
Low income housing is also known as Section 8 housing.

Trump isn't a Racist. He bought a Palm Beach country club years ago because the club had a rule against allowing minorities as members. And then he changed that rule. Racists don't do that. They love clubs like that and are the ones that made that rule.
And just as an FYI, "ILLEGAL ALIEN" isn't a race!

Joe Biden's history shows he's a Racist. Still is. 'Poor Kids' Just as Bright as 'White Kids,'
Biden: 'Look, I misspoke' about poor kids


The rape allegation is patently false. One of the women during the 2016 campaign that claimed Trump sexually assaulted her was just another liar. But she was also a few points off in creativity when she borrowed from a rock song lyrics and used those to describe how he assaulted her on a plane. Not private but a commercial jet.
Others near where Trump was seated say no such thing ever happened. And one witness was directly across the aisle from Trump's seat.

Porn? Porn is legal in America. Keeping in mind that anything Trump did before rededicating himself to Christ is under the blood of Christ. When God remembers Trump's sins no more, what does it say about Christians who use those sins against him as their reasoning as to why he should not be re-elected.

Trump is pro-life! Joe Biden is not. In fact Joe Biden and Harris believe abortion should be allowed even in the last trimester.
Adultery, that would likely be speaking about Trump's paid accusers during the 2016 campaign. They were discredited years ago and are no longer relevant.

Hatred? He here who is without sin cast the first stone. And by the way, a Christian is suppose to hate sin.

Leaving the poor out to dry? Patently false.

Narcissism? Are you kidding? Who thinks Narcissism isn't a trait common to people who believe they should run for public office so they can tell others what they can and cannot do. (The legislative branch), lead a country of over 300 million people ( Presidency) and drop a gavel when thinking they're entitled to interpret what the legislative branched passed up the chain to the President for signature into law? (Judicial branch).
 

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Personally, I vote according to my faith and beliefs................. It does not matter the Party of the Candidate.............there are Democrats and Republicans who DO NOT support those "hot button" issues you mentioned, and there are BOTH Democrats and Republicans who do support said issues.

I look closely at the person. Do some research, and read as much as I can about them, especially anything they wrote, or spoke.

I have not voted for the President in the last 4 cycles.............. 2nd Bush Term, both Obama Terms and Trumps current Term, simply because neither of the Candidates in each of those Election Cycles were (IMO) Christian, or held to Christian Values.......

I vote the "Under Ticket." It's much easier to find Candidates of the Christian Faith.
You said there were Democrats that supported pro life, pro one man one woman, anti transgender issues. Please name them.
 

soggykitten

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You said there were Democrats that supported pro life, pro one man one woman, anti transgender issues. Please name them.
Especially name those who are currently in Congress and on the Democratic presidential campaign trail. Well, we know those latter two are already disqualified.
On to the Democrats in Congress.
(waits patiently for that list)