Chosen by God - A study in Election

He does not guess he knows
He does not give eternal life to just anyone

Your agreeing with Chris?

And proof text bingo begins.

Nope

It was gods will that whoever saw and believed would be given eternal life (John 6)

Your taking the relational love if a god out of the picture

Whoever believes (John 3)
Whoever asks (John 4)
Whoever eats and drinks (John 6)
The moment we believed in faith (EPH 1)

I can go on and on and on

Eph 1:11
Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love

Rev 13:8
And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

Gal 1:15
But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,

Col 3:12
Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,

Jer 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God's elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness,

John 6:37
All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.

1 Thess 1:4
For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has chosen you,


Mark 13:20
And if the Lord had not cut short the days, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days.

Eph 1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, ...

I don't think he did; but that is why I asked!

In the modern vernacular.... Calvinism >>>> "SOME Lives Matter"

Yet God states otherwise, He does not deny or withhold salvation

I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.
Luke 15:9

Any thoughts or context? Or do I just post back a bunch of verses and just assume you understand my point?

2 Tim 1:9
who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,

The majority of the verses that I posted or self-explanatory, and say what they mean and mean what they say. Most are axiomatic, and therefore do not need interpretation. One simply receives them in their plain meaning.

Ephesians 1 when are we adopted ( check rom 8.23 ) ?

Eph 1 .
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
See ,this proves you wrong . I rest my case .

Rom 8:16-17
The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
and if children, also heirs: heirs indeed of God, and joint-heirs of Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified together.

Adoption? Already a done deal. We are simply waiting for glorified bodies with which we can enjoy full and unfettered fellowship with God. IMO, this adoption being foreordained in the will of God, has already happened as far as God is concerned. But it has not yet happened as far as we are concerned.

Again all of this happened in eternity past. The whole kit and caboodle.

Rom 4:17
As it is written, I have made you the father of many nations. [He was appointed our father] in the sight of God in Whom he believed, Who gives life to the dead and speaks of the nonexistent things that [He has foretold and promised] as if they [already] existed.

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Sorry .....you lost me there.

sorry about the Calvinist label


but you are a judge of blasphemy? I think that might be a more concerning item

the title of your op is very misleading since that is item #1 on the Calvinist hit parade...which no doubt you know

Amen. That would be God choosing those who will be given to Christ as a love gift.

Ok sorry I misunderstood you

And you forgot all about THE FAITH OF THE ONE WHO BELIEVES ON CHRIST.

So let's go back to John chapter 3:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Now kindly go to Romans 4 and make the connection between (1)GRACE, (2) FAITH, and (3) IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS.

And before you come along and say that God gives the gift of SAVING FAITH only to the elect, read and study Romans 10, particularly verse 17:

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. [the Gospel]

if you mean me, yes you did

his posts are utterly confusing and even a Calvinist would go whaaaa?

Yet they must be presented side by side with the chapters I posted about earlier in a way they do not contradict.