Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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jackrosie said:
Your comments have no affect on my spirit,as i




I have shared my testimony....and will never deny it....I am not here to justify that to anyone.

I only answer to the Lord and no one else......it’s not up for discussion....obviously it grates on some of you....that is something you will have to deal with.

So no more from me about my testimony.
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This is not just about your testimony....That's none of my business anyways. That is your perception.

This, however, is about scripture.

So,,,,Do you think God is a respecter of Persons?

That's plain and simple.... he either is or he isn't?
 
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jackrosie said:
Your comments have no affect on my spirit,as i
I have shared my testimony....and will never deny it....I am not here to justify that to anyone.

I only answer to the Lord and no one else......it’s not up for discussion....obviously it grates on some of you....that is something you will have to deal with.

So no more from me about my testimony.
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Truth is in the scriptures.

Does He choose everyone or choose some, and why choose some and not others?

You belief needs to be defended with scripture not your personal experience.
 
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jackrosie said:
Your comments have no affect on my spirit,as i




I have shared my testimony....and will never deny it....I am not here to justify that to anyone.

I only answer to the Lord and no one else......it’s not up for discussion....obviously it grates on some of you....that is something you will have to deal with.

So no more from me about my testimony.
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Sounds to me like you are the one not wanting to deal with it. You've been presented with scripture so you can deal with it or not that is up to you.

You can shut down and try to ignore it if you want, but the truth is still the truth.

God is no respecter of persons. He would have all man come to repentance. He sent his only begotten Son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Truth is in the scriptures.

Does He choose everyone or choose some, and why choose some and not others?

You belief needs to be defended with scripture not your personal experience.
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I have already defended it with scripture as have others......only you are blinded by what we have been showing you of scripture.

You can’t see past your own truth....it’s set in stone,so will leave you to God....
 
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1ofthem said:
Sounds to

Sounds to me like you are the one not wanting to deal with it. You've been presented with scripture so you can deal with it or not that is up to you.

You can shut down and try to ignore it if you want, but the truth is still the truth.

God is no respecter of persons. He would have all man come to repentance. He sent his only begotten Son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
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Agree ... does not follow her beliefs to their logical conclusion.

Probably because someone else has taught her this false teaching.... and I am sure he was so pleasant about it.
 
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jackrosie said:
I have already defended it with scripture as have others......only you are blinded by what we have been showing you of scripture.

You can’t see past your own truth....it’s set in stone,so will leave you to God....
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Where does scripture teach God chooses Group A and Group B HE denies or withhold's salvation.
 
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1ofthem said:
Sounds to

Sounds to me like you are the one not wanting to deal with it. You've been presented with scripture so you can deal with it or not that is up to you.

You can shut down and try to ignore it if you want, but the truth is still the truth.

God is no respecter of persons. He would have all man come to repentance. He sent his only begotten Son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
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I have already quoted scripture on here,only you deny it..others have also shown you scripture...which you scoot around..no good wasting my time flogging a dead horse.

Believe what you want to believe..I also believe scripture,but not as you do.....
 
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jackrosie said:
I have already defended it with scripture as have others......only you are blinded by what we have been showing you of scripture.

You can’t see past your own truth....it’s set in stone,so will leave you to God....
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You have not defended it with scripture and neither has anyone else. It is not scriptural. Thus, it cannot be defended with scripture. We cannot change the meaning of words around, take scripture out of context, and say that it somehow harmonizes. It does not.

The truth is if you honestly look at scripture, then the scripture will defend its self.
 
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1ofthem said:
You have not defended it with scripture and neither has anyone else. It is not scriptural. Thus, it cannot be defended with scripture. We cannot change the meaning of words around, take scripture out of context, and say that it somehow harmonizes. It does not.

The truth is if you honestly look at scripture, then the scripture will defend its self.
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Again you are in denial....a few have defended it with scripture...only you don’t understand it.
 
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jackrosie said:
I have already quoted scripture on here,only you deny it..others have also shown you scripture...which you scoot around..no good wasting my time flogging a dead horse.

Believe what you want to believe..I also believe scripture,but not as you do.....
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EleventhHour said:
Where does scripture teach God chooses Group A and Group B HE denies or withhold's salvation.
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No where in scripture is this taught...Scripture doesn't teach it....Calvin was the one that taught this perverse dogma.
 
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jackrosie said:
Again you are in denial....a few have defended it with scripture...only you don’t understand it.
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I could almost laugh at this .... you have learned the tactics well.

"You cannot understand"
 
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jackrosie said:
Again you are in denial....a few have defended it with scripture...only you don’t understand it.
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LOL...I don't understand?... A few have twisted the meaning and context around to try to match up with a man made doctrine. Calvin is the one that came up with it. You really wont find it anywhere in the scripture.
 
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1ofthem said:
LOL...I don't understand?... A few have twisted the meaning and context around to try to match up with a man made doctrine. Calvin is the one that came up with it. You really wont find it anywhere in the scripture.
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You truly don’t understand.....imo and belief......
 
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jackrosie said:
You truly don’t understand.....imo and belief......
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Guess that cuts me out of that Special Calvinist group.

That's good.... I'll just stick with the scripture. Not too interested in what Calvin has to say about it anyways.
 
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jackrosie said:
I have quoted scripture to you...only you have chosen to deny it...your choice....
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Perhaps your Calvinist mentor did not explain this part, but one has see the meaning, what is being taught in the scripture in context, not just quote scripture.
 
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EleventhHour said:
If God choose you and left others with no choice, in fact denied salvation, then yes you are special.
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Men always choose sin and self.
God elects to save a multitude and enable them to be willing psa110:3
Duskey said:
Studying Scripture is indeed beneficial but salvation comes through having faith in Christ, hence why I don’t get bogged down with man’s theology. We are to keep our eyes focussed on Christ. That’s Scripture.
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EleventhHour said:
This is the scripture... rules of logic are that the meaning of a word cannot be changed to mean something else

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men (all created men) to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men (you change to the elect men) unto justification of life. (Romans 5:18)

The word meaning cannot change within someone's argument... and Paul is definitely presenting a logical argument.
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There are two groups
condemned
justified

All who remain in Adam are condemned

All in Jesus by new Birth are justified.

When you deny this you deny biblical revelation.
 
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