How Should Christians Vote?

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Skovand

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/climate.nasa.gov/evidence.amp
NASA links to studies.

The website you posted seems to simply be nothing more than someone who does not understand what they reading and it’s actual implications. They are ignorantly posting some papers talking about the natural aspect of climate change ( which almost all agree with ) and confusing that for denial of of human implications in it.

If you want to you can choose one specific study it mentions. Get it’s reference number and we can go through that journal and contact the scientists who work on it and fact check their organization and see how it actually uslly is meant to be interpreted.
 
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No the country would not be ran by California and New York. It would be ran by the majority of voting american adults.
Nope. Don't have the electoral in my home country, Canada, and they've tried three or four times to get the PM out, can't do it. Electoral was created to give everyone a chance to be heard, not just the big cities. Otherwise there's no point for the small town people to vote.
 

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So what to it s saying is that in cananda a minority of group of people wanted to get the PM out but they can’t because the majority wants to keep him? How is that a issue exactly?
 

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Why doesn’t everything have to be a political issue for you? In the other countries of the world, man made climate change has been known of and taught in schools since at least 1990. Its a fact and the political issue is “what shall we do about it?”
It’s when the issue came to America that people started claiming it’s a hoax, just like the corona virus... and now we know that yeah, it’s real.
A big reason is that in America many states have really fallen behind on education. You can almost always trace a fairly similar line of less education, higher diseases of affluence such as heart attacks from bad food eaten over a life time, science denial, and certain types of voting.
 
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A big reason is that in America many states have really fallen behind on education. You can almost always trace a fairly similar line of less education, higher diseases of affluence such as heart attacks from bad food eaten over a life time, science denial, and certain types of voting.
I think, to believe that America is the greatest and best country in the world is rather dangerous. Sure, it is absolutely good to love your nation, but it’s easy to become ignorant. America has fallen behind in a lot of things the last 30 years. So many things need to be improved, but it’s not easy to do that if people are arguing what political party is of God and the other is an evil virus of Satan, while still claim that America is the best and the greatest country in the world. To look for influence outwards to better your country is to love it.
 

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Well if they are using those exact words, congrats, those where actually 100% my own. I guess the fact we use the same vocabulary can discredit me completely. How foolish of me.
What I cannot understand is beoples black and white views. It’s like if you are a democrat you HAVE to hate the republicans, love all the democratic presidents and agree with all the things he/she does. I do not. Obama was the president I liked the most but I didn’t agree with all he did/said/wanted. Somethings he said that was a lie or wrong, somethings he did that was against what I wanted and sometimes he failed to do things he had promised.
However I feel I like this, unfortunately is the standard. No one can be that shiny man on a hill.
But for me, even if Trump has done great things I still feel he acts like a child. He doesn’t show respect to people and I believe a man that self centered is dangerous to have in the office.
We need the world to not be this divided, and Trump has created a big rift between USA and the rest of the world. All those good relationships built on since WW2 is falling apart, just because of his time as president.

You have stated your opinions, I have expressed mine. Obviously since they differ as Night and Day this would continue in countless back-and forth posts with the same things said but in a different way. I'm sure you have better things to do as do I.
 
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Ronja

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You have stated your opinions, I have expressed mine. Obviously since they differ as Night and Day this would continue in countless back-and forth posts with the same things said but in a different way. I'm sure you have better things to do as do I.
I agree! Have a nice day!
 
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"MessageOfTheCross, posted

Can a Christian vote for the Democrat Party who support abortions, homosexual marriages, and socialism? Many televangelists Pastors ask the question, "How can you call yourself a Christian and vote Democrat"?

Depending on the variety of issues at hand, can a Christian vote for different parties or candidates?

A Christian should vote as the Spirit of God in him/her directs. Period. No arguments.
 

gb9

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A big reason is that in America many states have really fallen behind on education. You can almost always trace a fairly similar line of less education, higher diseases of affluence such as heart attacks from bad food eaten over a life time, science denial, and certain types of voting.
ah, so if we would just let the most educated , well schooled in science, be in charge, then that would be great.

so, you tell us who to vote for, that would put us on the right path.

spoken like a true elitist liberal.

you can throw out your your non-sense with the rest of the trash.
 

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I am not a citizen of the USA, but I would absolutely be a democrat if I was, and I am still a Christian.
There are things in both parties I don’t agree with, and I am not all against Republicans. But from an outsider, I think you have a very dangerous way of thinking when it comes to politics.
To say that you cannot be a christian if you are a Democrat because this and that is just strange. Can you be a Christian if you vote for a man who acts like a narcissistic child, calling people names trying to hurt people and tearing children away from their mothers? Apparently...
Even if I was a republican, this year I would vote Democrat. You as republicans deserve much better.
Hey, if you are referring to the children being held in the cages then get your facts straight. Obama/Biden built the cages and were the first to hold children/people in the cages. These were used to hold illegal immigrants for processing. If you are referring to children being taken from illegal immigrants before they were taken to adult holding places (correction institutions), wow, would you want your child going to those places with who knows what kind of people are there. President Trump ordered The children taken, in those cases, to be sent to care centers where they were cared for. Although in your defense you probably didn’t hear about that on the so called main stream media. I believe you live in another country, probably Canada, maybe you would like a few million immigrants and some MS13 thugs Shipped there, maybe to your neighborhood.
 

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Hey, if you are referring to the children being held in the cages then get your facts straight. Obama/Biden built the cages and were the first to hold children/people in the cages. These were used to hold illegal immigrants for processing. If you are referring to children being taken from illegal immigrants before they were taken to adult holding places (correction institutions), wow, would you want your child going to those places with who knows what kind of people are there. President Trump ordered The children taken, in those cases, to be sent to care centers where they were cared for. Although in your defense you probably didn’t hear about that on the so called main stream media. I believe you live in another country, probably Canada, maybe you would like a few million immigrants and some MS13 thugs Shipped there, maybe to your neighborhood.
Agree , Justin Trudeau shut Canada's open borders down pretty quick after scolding Trump while bragging he'd take all immigrants in Canada ... Justin looks/acts more Cuban than Canadian to me anyway
 
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Ronja

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Hey, if you are referring to the children being held in the cages then get your facts straight. Obama/Biden built the cages and were the first to hold children/people in the cages. These were used to hold illegal immigrants for processing. If you are referring to children being taken from illegal immigrants before they were taken to adult holding places (correction institutions), wow, would you want your child going to those places with who knows what kind of people are there. President Trump ordered The children taken, in those cases, to be sent to care centers where they were cared for. Although in your defense you probably didn’t hear about that on the so called main stream media. I believe you live in another country, probably Canada, maybe you would like a few million immigrants and some MS13 thugs Shipped there, maybe to your neighborhood.
So you think it’s okay to separate children from their parents because you are afraid of meeting them?
You think Jesus would have thought that way?

Matthew 25:36-40
36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

I don’t care if the Democrats made the cages, Trump made it worse. If I was a kid I would rather be in hell with my parents then be taken to a different hell ALONE.

No, I am not Canadian. Funny you draw such quick conclusions. I am from Europe. We had the biggest immigrant crisis a few years back. I don’t agree with all the things we did, but at least we didn’t separated kids from their parents, causing damage to their mental health that will hold for years or even their entire life!
 
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Ronja

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Agree , Justin Trudeau shut Canada's open borders down pretty quick after scolding Trump while bragging he'd take all immigrants in Canada ... Justin looks/acts more Cuban than Canadian to me anyway
Still not Canadian XD
 

gb9

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So you think it’s okay to separate children from their parents because you are afraid of meeting them?
You think Jesus would have thought that way?

Matthew 25:36-40
36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

I don’t care if the Democrats made the cages, Trump made it worse. If I was a kid I would rather be in hell with my parents then be taken to a different hell ALONE.

No, I am not Canadian. Funny you draw such quick conclusions. I am from Europe. We had the biggest immigrant crisis a few years back. I don’t agree with all the things we did, but at least we didn’t separated kids from their parents, causing damage to their mental health that will hold for years or even their entire life!
* they are not always parents of the children.

children are not separated at legal border entry, only if they are picked up by border patrol when entering illegally .

example- 5 adults and 3 children are picked up by border patrol in the open dessert , no i.d., no way to tell if the children are theirs or not.
so. they separate them to try to figure out if they are the parents or not.
and, they are in buildings, like a summer camp set up, not in cages.

try to think in terms of the real world, not liberal talking points.
 

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Agree , Justin Trudeau shut Canada's open borders down pretty quick after scolding Trump while bragging he'd take all immigrants in Canada ... Justin looks/acts more Cuban than Canadian to me anyway
You are correct about Trudeau and his love of all things Cuban and Communist. But Trudeau is a total disgrace to Canada. However it just goes to show the lack of discernment among huge numbers of Canadians in voting for the Liberals.

By the same token the Conservatives failed to have (1) a solid conservative candidate to oppose Trudeau and (2) a solid conservative platform to get Canada back on track. So Trudeau got in by default. And shame on the conservatives who had four years to get their act together, and turned out to be feckless.
 

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Why doesn’t everything have to be a political issue for you? In the other countries of the world, man made climate change has been known of and taught in schools since at least 1990. Its a fact and the political issue is “what shall we do about it?”
It’s when the issue came to America that people started claiming it’s a hoax, just like the corona virus... and now we know that yeah, it’s real.
Just to add clarity here, Nehemiah is Canadian, not American. Check his profile, he lives in Canada. I've asked him twice if he's an American ex-pat and he's not answered. I wouldn't be upset about his observations of American politics when they don't actually pertain to him personally as an American.
 

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So you think it’s okay to separate children from their parents because you are afraid of meeting them?
You think Jesus would have thought that way?

Matthew 25:36-40
36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

I don’t care if the Democrats made the cages, Trump made it worse. If I was a kid I would rather be in hell with my parents then be taken to a different hell ALONE.

No, I am not Canadian. Funny you draw such quick conclusions. I am from Europe. We had the biggest immigrant crisis a few years back. I don’t agree with all the things we did, but at least we didn’t separated kids from their parents, causing damage to their mental health that will hold for years or even their entire life![/QUOTE


First, if you had checked this out you would have found out that the children were taken to care centers where they had proper food, medical and basic living conditions. Better than they would otherwise have had during the Obama Administration. You draw conclusions that you can’t substantiate. Just ask the DACA kids. President Trump tried to make a deal with Pelosi and Schumer to take care of the illegal DACA Executive Order The that Obama wrote. Even gave them more than they asked for and they rejected the offer. I’m sure you are happy not living in this terrible country.

You said you were a Christian and would rather be in Hell with your parents than be separated from them (really). Maybe you could do some study and see where the children were Actually sent and taken care of. Maybe you saw pictures of these kids on TV. It was proven that those photos being circulated were taken during the Obama Administration. (Main Stream Media strikes again)

As far as having a fear of meeting these kids, I spent time in Vietnam seeing first hand children separated from their parents and not having a home to go. I really don’t have a lot of fears after that experience.
 

soggykitten

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So you think it’s okay to separate children from their parents because you are afraid of meeting them?
You think Jesus would have thought that way?

Matthew 25:36-40
36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

I don’t care if the Democrats made the cages, Trump made it worse. If I was a kid I would rather be in hell with my parents then be taken to a different hell ALONE.

No, I am not Canadian. Funny you draw such quick conclusions. I am from Europe. We had the biggest immigrant crisis a few years back. I don’t agree with all the things we did, but at least we didn’t separated kids from their parents, causing damage to their mental health that will hold for years or even their entire life!
You're not an American but you clearly follow the Left wing bias reporting of the MSM. (Main Stream Media)
In point of fact what you call separating children from their parents is a matter of law!
In America we do not put vulnerable children into an adult jail system where they'll be at risk to the predators there. We separate children from parents under arrest and in the company of their minor children in the case of any legal infraction wherein said parent is taken into custody by authorities. And this for the child's personal safety.

Claiming that you don't care the Democrats made the cages but Trump made it worse is just dodging the responsibility you believe where the outrage over such policies should fall and because you're predisposed to bias in favor of the Democratic party. Even though you don't live here, and have no idea of the Democratic party history.

I think you're raging against Trump and pleading the Democratic party side because you are pleased to instigate what you believe is upset.
Where did Jesus do that in the scriptures?
Where did Jesus say the law of man doesn't matter if someone is a foreigner invading a nation?
That scripture you quoted is not in context with illegal trespass into this nation. And in point of fact, if you read the scriptures you'll find that God destroyed foreign people whom he deemed a threat to his chosen Israel.

I so tire of foreigners who don't live in America casting aspersions and vitriol against our policies as pertain to, in this case illegal entry and occupation of our country, when they should relegate themselves to what their own country is doing in that regard. And asking them to tolerate while doing it.
If you don't like that America implements policies to stop illegal entry into our country, because entry into any country is not a right but a privilege, it is a good thing you don't live here and have to tolerate what unfolds as illegals multiply daily through illegal entry and through procreation while taking advantage of our so desperately needed amending, 14th amendment.


BTW, interesting Agaric mushroom in your profile pic. ;)