"this generation will not pass away" - until the second coming of Jesus?

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It really would be helpful for you to learn how to convey your thoughts in a way that others can easily understand. Given the context, your statement appears to be saying that there is no such thing as prophetic foretelling of future events. Is that what you mean?
No, I meant not all prophecy speaks of the future. Its a evil generation that seeks after one to wonder or amuse about today (no faith) .

The last was given and fulfilled 2000 years ago. So yes no such thing after the last the sign of Jonas . It is a sealed deal,
 

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Is Jonah's miracle just swallowed by a big fish? Jonah disobeyed the will of God, out of compassion, the city was to be destroyed by God, but after that all the people in the city repented, and God did not intend to destroy it.

I don't know how you read and understand the Bible. Jonah's miracle is a sign of compassion and repentance。

In this way, the signs of compassion and repentance will still be shown。
 

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P.S
Hebrew 9:28
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many;and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 

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[I assume your post is directed to me and my post?? (top line of your post ^ seems to be from my post)]


My response:

Just to note... I've posted before on the TWO [distinct] references to "firstfruit" in Leviticus 23, with the SECOND of these (namely Lev23:17) correlating with what is said of the "144,000" in Rev14:4... and where Lev23:17 refers to the "TWO loaves" and "baken WITH LEAVEN" (pertaining to the WHEAT harvest [as shown elsewhere]; i.e. distinct HARVESTS [meaning, there is more than one harvest])... so I believe the "144,000" are the firstfruit of the WHEAT harvest (like Matt13 speaks of)... and if they are "FIRSTfruit" of it, this means that the rest of THAT harvest FOLLOWS it. Are you saying that "the 144,000" have existed at some point in recent history (or even in the 70ad events), or are you among those who do not take "the 144,000: 12,000 from each of the tribes of ISRAEL listed there in Rev7" to be literally speaking of THAT, but of something else entirely?





[note: James 1:18 says "we" (speaking of 'the Church which is His body,' I believe [but either way, it still distinguishes!]) are "A CERTAIN KIND of firstfruit," may the readers recall ;) - https://biblehub.com/interlinear/james/1-18.htm "G5100 - tis/tina - 'A CERTAIN KIND'" ]
Maybe you're right,

I just said what I saw.But I know I hear the voices of thousands of saints from the sky/heaven,
I heard not only the voices of these , but also the voices of my enemie(A man who has done a sinful to me,I have hated him for a long time)I also heard other people's voices, the voices of people I know well. This person has not died, and is still alive in the world
So we have to be careful not to hate sinners or someone


I wouldn't say anything I didn't understand.
I don't usually answer things I don't know..
 

soberxp

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P.S but their voice at Different locations/position from heaven/sky
the voices of thousands of saints near the voice of Jesus(cuz the one voice bigger than the saints)
 
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Is Jonah's miracle just swallowed by a big fish? Jonah disobeyed the will of God, out of compassion, the city was to be destroyed by God, but after that all the people in the city repented, and God did not intend to destroy it.

I don't know how you read and understand the Bible. Jonah's miracle is a sign of compassion and repentance。

In this way, the signs of compassion and repentance will still be shown。
I would agree and add. A sign of compassion and repentance performed in resistance of a murmuring spirit of Jonas who knew from his own experrnced he was a compassionate God . He sufferer to the point of death and was strengthened from within to cry out for strength to finish the work of three days in the "heart of the earth" or called "the belly of the whale"

Three times repenting and was delivered to shore to finish his work in Jonas, the murmurer and debater .

The fulfillment of that sign of Jonas as a wonder . The beginning of the three days in the heart of the earth it began in the garden of Gethsemane. The first part of the demonstration .When Jesus alone with the fathers while the disciples were put to sleep so that no strength could come from another's request as a work . The demonstration required the work of two

The father according to the propmised demonstration spoken of in Isiah 53 was being fulfilled in the garden. Three times the Son of man suffered unto death and cried out for strength as the father poured out the cup of wrath and worked with the the Son to finish it . After the demonstrations was over the disciples were awoken and headed toward the second phase the cross at the hands of man Salvation in any form will not be accredited to the work of the father and Son is accredited to the Satan inspired crowd . .Jesus of his own volition gave up the Spirit as a offering to God.


Three kinds of demonstrations

One like that of Jonas the reluctant murmurer that made it hard on his own self not being strengthened from the father. (the cross demonstration suffering at the hand of men )

And the other demonstration the willing Son that did not murmur knowing the power from the father was necessary to establish the government of a loving authority, and willingly submissive workers. Delighting in doing the will of their unseen God. The first part of the three part denonstration .

Then the last part the tomb or belly of the whale same meaning as heart of the earth ( a place of sufferings and being strengthened. . The unseen work of God .

That was the last possible sign as a wonder . The perfect has come no need to wonder in part.

Philippians 2:13-14 King James Version (KJV) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

A lesson to all who live in flesh. I would think .
 

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No, I meant not all prophecy speaks of the future. Its a evil generation that seeks after one to wonder or amuse about today (no faith) .

The last was given and fulfilled 2000 years ago. So yes no such thing after the last the sign of Jonas . It is a sealed deal,
I guess you tore Acts and 1 Corinthians out of your Bible, along with 2 Thessalonians, 2 Peter, Jude, and Revelation.
 
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Maybe you're right,

I just said what I saw.But I know I hear the voices of thousands of saints from the sky/heaven,
I heard not only the voices of these , but also the voices of my enemie(A man who has done a sinful to me,I have hated him for a long time)I also heard other people's voices, the voices of people I know well. This person has not died, and is still alive in the world
So we have to be careful not to hate sinners or someone


I wouldn't say anything I didn't understand.
I don't usually answer things I don't know..
It is impossible to hear the dead. They have no voice

That sounds more like the deception of necromancy.



In the wa y
 

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It is impossible to hear the dead. They have no voice

That sounds more like the deception of necromancy.



In the wa y
What do you believe ?
Jesus and saints are dead ?

The Apostle’s Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth;
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord:
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried;
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

You're unreasonable, like a scribe or a Pharisee
 
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I guess you tore Acts and 1 Corinthians out of your Bible, along with 2 Thessalonians, 2 Peter, Jude, and Revelation.
I guess you added.

No more signs to wonder after. The sign of Jonas, fulfilled in Christ, the last one needed.

. Lying signs making noises without meaning and falling backward slain in the spirit is still doing it work of those who seek after the signs as lying wonders. They are reserved for the evil faithless generation. Christians follow after prophecy

Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
 

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I Strongly Disagree

Your Preterist Assumption Is False, The Disciples Asked Two Questions As Seen Below

1.) Sign Of The Second Coming

2.) Sign Of End Of The World

Jimbone, (The Great Tribulation) seen in Matthew 24:21 didn't take place in 70AD

Jimbone, (The Second Coming) as seen below didn't take place in 70AD

Jimbone, (The Great Tribulation) and (Second Coming) of Jesus Christ in the clouds of heaven are (Future) events, as Jesus Christ will return immediately after a (Future) Great Tribulation upon this earth.

Jimbone, the end of this world is a (Future) event.

Matthew 24:3KJV
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Again you really just accuse me falsely of what you're doing. I'm not bringing ANYTHING to the text at all. I'm not saying believe this or believe that, what I'm saying is when you drop all that, when you drop every presupposition and come to the text as a child,
After the diciples ask Jesus "When will these things take place, right after He tells them about what? THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE.

He then goes on to describes us being persecuted for witnessing to the nations, then goes into the AoD, and the return of the Son of man.

After this Jesus looks these people right in the eyes, His followers, the ones He loves so much and Jesus says "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.".

Never once here does it say or even vaguely imply "the generation that see's these things". He just doesn't say that and you HAVE to bring it to the text. This is not an opinion, or NOT me saying this "proves" my view about 70 AD at all, I'm just pointing out the undeniable fact that you have to add to the text to come up with "the generation that see's these things will not pass away".

As far as your objection to the stars falling and moon not giving it's light. I understand, I didn't think this could have possibly happen yet either at first, obviously that didn't take place in 70 AD. Until I was introduced to the literary style used here called apocalyptic literature. It's a literary tool used often to describe judgement. They over emphasize things like "His heart melted in His chest like wax", or "the sun went black not giving it's light and the sky came crashing down on him", stuff like that. That's what He was using to describe the end of that age, and lets not forget that He was, this whole time, answering the disciples question about when would the temple be destroyed, right after Jesus said not even one brick would be left on another, and that's exactly what happen historically. It's amazing really and I can't see why it's so offensive to some.

Well I guess I do see why, I just think the reason why (holding on to mans tradition instead of the living word of God) is sad. Please understand that I am only standing on what the Lord has revealed to me up to this point, and I understand and respect the fact you're doing the same thing here. I hope I haven't offended you or come across as rude, I honestly didn't mean to. I appreciate the conversation brother and the passion you have to stand on what you believe, that's a great quality to be blessed with.
 

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What do you believe ?
Jesus and saints are dead ?

The Apostle’s Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth;
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord:
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried;
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

You're unreasonable, like a scribe or a Pharisee
The Lord Jesus Christ has messengers called (Holy Angels) that do his bidding and interaction with believers on this earth.

Acts 10:22KJV
22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

1 John 4:1KJV
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Ephesians 6:12KJV
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

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Again you really just accuse me falsely of what you're doing. I'm not bringing ANYTHING to the text at all. I'm not saying believe this or believe that, what I'm saying is when you drop all that, when you drop every presupposition and come to the text as a child,
After the diciples ask Jesus "When will these things take place, right after He tells them about what? THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE.

He then goes on to describes us being persecuted for witnessing to the nations, then goes into the AoD, and the return of the Son of man.

After this Jesus looks these people right in the eyes, His followers, the ones He loves so much and Jesus says "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.".

Never once here does it say or even vaguely imply "the generation that see's these things". He just doesn't say that and you HAVE to bring it to the text. This is not an opinion, or NOT me saying this "proves" my view about 70 AD at all, I'm just pointing out the undeniable fact that you have to add to the text to come up with "the generation that see's these things will not pass away".

As far as your objection to the stars falling and moon not giving it's light. I understand, I didn't think this could have possibly happen yet either at first, obviously that didn't take place in 70 AD. Until I was introduced to the literary style used here called apocalyptic literature. It's a literary tool used often to describe judgement. They over emphasize things like "His heart melted in His chest like wax", or "the sun went black not giving it's light and the sky came crashing down on him", stuff like that. That's what He was using to describe the end of that age, and lets not forget that He was, this whole time, answering the disciples question about when would the temple be destroyed, right after Jesus said not even one brick would be left on another, and that's exactly what happen historically. It's amazing really and I can't see why it's so offensive to some.

Well I guess I do see why, I just think the reason why (holding on to mans tradition instead of the living word of God) is sad. Please understand that I am only standing on what the Lord has revealed to me up to this point, and I understand and respect the fact you're doing the same thing here. I hope I haven't offended you or come across as rude, I honestly didn't mean to. I appreciate the conversation brother and the passion you have to stand on what you believe, that's a great quality to be blessed with.
I have a new idea, and that's parable
And Jesus said, without parables, he would not speak to them
the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
maybe it's just a parable
What is more luminous than the light of Jesus Christ? so the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light
What things can stand before Jesus Christ? so the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken
That's why when I saw the second coming of Jesus , somehow I bow down on my knees
 

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Again you really just accuse me falsely of what you're doing. I'm not bringing ANYTHING to the text at all. I'm not saying believe this or believe that, what I'm saying is when you drop all that, when you drop every presupposition and come to the text as a child,
After the diciples ask Jesus "When will these things take place, right after He tells them about what? THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE.

He then goes on to describes us being persecuted for witnessing to the nations, then goes into the AoD, and the return of the Son of man.

After this Jesus looks these people right in the eyes, His followers, the ones He loves so much and Jesus says "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.".

Never once here does it say or even vaguely imply "the generation that see's these things". He just doesn't say that and you HAVE to bring it to the text. This is not an opinion, or NOT me saying this "proves" my view about 70 AD at all, I'm just pointing out the undeniable fact that you have to add to the text to come up with "the generation that see's these things will not pass away".

As far as your objection to the stars falling and moon not giving it's light. I understand, I didn't think this could have possibly happen yet either at first, obviously that didn't take place in 70 AD. Until I was introduced to the literary style used here called apocalyptic literature. It's a literary tool used often to describe judgement. They over emphasize things like "His heart melted in His chest like wax", or "the sun went black not giving it's light and the sky came crashing down on him", stuff like that. That's what He was using to describe the end of that age, and lets not forget that He was, this whole time, answering the disciples question about when would the temple be destroyed, right after Jesus said not even one brick would be left on another, and that's exactly what happen historically. It's amazing really and I can't see why it's so offensive to some.

Well I guess I do see why, I just think the reason why (holding on to mans tradition instead of the living word of God) is sad. Please understand that I am only standing on what the Lord has revealed to me up to this point, and I understand and respect the fact you're doing the same thing here. I hope I haven't offended you or come across as rude, I honestly didn't mean to. I appreciate the conversation brother and the passion you have to stand on what you believe, that's a great quality to be blessed with.
Daniels (The Abomination Of Desolation) causes (The Great Tribulation) Jesus Christ Will Return Immediately After This (Future) Tribulation.

The Day And Hour (No Man Knows)

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It appears you haven't learned the parable of the fig tree? :)

When the (Future) generation sees all the signs mentioned?

(Know That It Is Near, Even At The Doors)

What Is Near, (The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ In The Heavens)

No Man Knows The Day And Hour Of This Second Coming, You Falsely Claim The Signs Have Come And Gone In 70AD

Matthew 24:32-36KJV
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

As stated, you believe a physical temple of stone was to be destroyed just as the Pharisees believed, but the temple destroyed was the body of Jesus, and at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the temple of stone in Jerusalem was removed, the veil was rent at death, gone in the (Spiritual Realm) and replaced by the New Testament in the (Blood On Calvary)!

John 2:22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
 

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I know the day and Hour ,2008=2+0+0+8=10.10.10 am 12
十 is ten in Chinese
十 十 十
Jesus disaster Friday
 
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What do you believe ?
Jesus and saints are dead ?

The Apostle’s Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth;
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord:
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried;
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

You're unreasonable, like a scribe or a Pharisee
It would seem the other way around .The Pharisees sought after the dead, as worker with familiar spirits. it was more popular in the old testament . Rachel fell victim of hearing the unseen legion and hid the family idols called teraphims from her father.

Jesus used a series of parables in Luke 16 to show the impossibility of serving "two teaching or hearing masters" .

Christian hear God our father through prophecy as it is written .The one manner spoken of in Mathew 6 by which we can hear the voice of the unseen . Called this manner. "our father in heaven" Not dead relatives or saints .

(1) All things written in the law and the prophets .The bible in its entirety alone.

(2) necromancy the voice of a legion of imaginary workers with familiar spirits as a lying wonder, a delusion .

Luke 16: 13-16 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Again the law and the prophets; "the word of God" alone (sola scriptura)

The series of parables continues revealing the impossibility of us going to them "by hearing" or they come to us . The one master is repeated again and again . The law and the prophets or Mosses and the prophets (sola scriptura) The one witness of God

Note..( parentheses my addition )

Luke 16: 26-31 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. ( The word of God sola scriptura) And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, (the gospel) neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


A good example of the gospel casting out the abomination with all its tools ( necromancy) It is shown working with King Josiah, moved by the Spirit of Christ from within . An example today, Catholisicim has 3,500 and rapidly rising

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.

I would be careful in hearing voices of the unseen . Try and forgive others empowered by Christ .He can help to remind us we have forgiven the other .

Anger blind the minds .let the gospel shine . That way in our anger as fallen mankind we do not sin .

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath "blinded the minds" of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Only he can cast away the sin as far as east is to the west and remember it no more . We must remember we have or are working to forgive or a person becomes a slave to another mans sin. We can become like those who hate .

One voice of the unknow source of faith. . as it is written. The legion will flee
 

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I know the day and Hour ,2008=2+0+0+8=10.10.10 am 12
十 is ten in Chinese
十 十 十
Jesus disaster Friday
that day 2008.10.10 AM12:00 IS Friday
DO YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH!
 

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Daniels (The Abomination Of Desolation) causes (The Great Tribulation) Jesus Christ Will Return Immediately After This (Future) Tribulation.

The Day And Hour (No Man Knows)

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It appears you haven't learned the parable of the fig tree? :)

When the (Future) generation sees all the signs mentioned?

(Know That It Is Near, Even At The Doors)

What Is Near, (The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ In The Heavens)

No Man Knows The Day And Hour Of This Second Coming, You Falsely Claim The Signs Have Come And Gone In 70AD

Matthew 24:32-36KJV
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

As stated, you believe a physical temple of stone was to be destroyed just as the Pharisees believed, but the temple destroyed was the body of Jesus, and at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the temple of stone in Jerusalem was removed, the veil was rent at death, gone in the (Spiritual Realm) and replaced by the New Testament in the (Blood On Calvary)!

John 2:22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Wow you just proved my point 1000%, see how much you're ADDING to scripture to make it say what you want it to say? There's no denying because you're doing right here. I don't think you've even addressed my point at all because all you're doing to counter my claim, that you HAVE to add to scripture to come up with your interpretation of Matt 24:34, is adding more to scripture. I do not know why you can't see this. It just simply does NOT say what you claim without ADDING TO what it actually says. What you claim it says doesn't even make any sense at all in any way, in context. If you stop look and think for a second you'll see that you've given NO argument at all to support your point other than your assertion and tradition. That's just true. Until you can see and admit that to go from-

Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

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Truly I tell you, the generation that see's these things, will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

You literally HAVE to add words to it. To deny it is completely irrational and denying reality. I don't care why you're adding to it, or how you're adding to it, that makes no difference in my point. Whether your right about this or I am has no bearing on my point here. My only point here is to get you to see, admit, and understand my point that you have to add to His word to make it mean what you say it means. When there are literally more words in what you say it means than what is actually written, simple addition and common sense dictate that there is more, or YOU ADDED TO IT. That simple. Deny this and I can only conclude you're not here at all to have a conversation, only to teach and "be right" all the time. No point in speaking with that, so please let me know without further adding to His word to make it fit your narrative.
 
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Daniels (The Abomination Of Desolation) causes (The Great Tribulation) Jesus Christ Will Return Immediately After This (Future) Tribulation.

The Day And Hour (No Man Knows)

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It appears you haven't learned the parable of the fig tree? :)

When the (Future) generation sees all the signs mentioned?

(Know That It Is Near, Even At The Doors)

What Is Near, (The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ In The Heavens)

No Man Knows The Day And Hour Of This Second Coming, You Falsely Claim The Signs Have Come And Gone In 70AD

Matthew 24:32-36KJV
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

As stated, you believe a physical temple of stone was to be destroyed just as the Pharisees believed, but the temple destroyed was the body of Jesus, and at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the temple of stone in Jerusalem was removed, the veil was rent at death, gone in the (Spiritual Realm) and replaced by the New Testament in the (Blood On Calvary)!

John 2:22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
No signs as wonders are given its an evil faithless generation that does seek after one.

The tribulation like never before or ever again began with the renting of the veil. The abomination of desolation was revealed . No Jewish king was sitting in the holy of holiest place. Kings in Israel sitting in temples made with human hands is the abomination. God is not a man .

By the renting of the vail the sign of circummsion of the first born. The bride of Christ was revealed as the bride of all nations not just of the Israel nation. She was given a more befitting name to represent all the nation. The father named her Christian meaning . . resident of the heavily city name after her husband Christ.

Those who identified by the flesh outward Jews did not know where to turn or who to trust . A time of great wondering tribulation looking for answers going back and forth .

The time Satan fell as described in Revelation 20 no longer able to deceive all the nations in that way .

We are to know no man after the flesh (what the eyes see) the vail is lifted , rent from the top to the bottom .

Believers who have the power of the gospel working in their bodies of death are the temple .