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Note...they only say they are different,but offer only an opinion as to incubation,while admitting sars is mpre deadly....and get this,sars was not politicised...only to the point obama told the media to stop reporting on the deaths and bad news surrounding sars.


The similarities:

  • Both are respiratory illnesses caused by the same large family of viruses called coronavirus.
  • Both originated in a Chinese province—SARS in Guangdong and COVID-19 in Wuhan.
  • Both spread rapidly through the local population and later jumped international borders.


The differences:

  • SARS, with a death rate of about ten percent, was more fatal than COVID-19, which has a death rate of about two percent
  • COVID-19 is spreading more rapidly than SARS did, with the latest figures (which update almost hourly) showing it has killed more than 3,100 people and infected 93,000 others since mid-December. It has spread to at least 76 other countries. SARS infected 8,098 people and killed 774 in eight months, spreading to 29 other countries.
  • Most people with SARS became ill between two and ten days after exposure. COVID-19 has a 14-day incubation period.
 
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EleventhHour

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post for me the exact difference.
One paper i read said SARS the virus that causes covid 19.

I am no expert i just do not jettison info based on politics.

Covid - 19 is the disease.


SARS Cov-1 Name of the virus ------ this virus that broke out in Toronto and China, South Korea and I think Japan an a few other places in 2003.
It was much more deadly, death rate was up about 6% range but easier to trace because it had a shorter incubation period, a few days. They were able to stop its spread when the last host died.

SARS Cov-2 is the name of the present virus, they are both coronavirus, however SARS Cov-2 looks different and attacks the body differently and incubates differently in the body.
 
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Note...they only say they are different,but offer only an opinion as to incubation,while admitting sars is mpre deadly....and get this,sars was not politicised...only to the point obama told the media to stop reporting on the deaths and bad news surrounding sars.


The similarities:

  • Both are respiratory illnesses caused by the same large family of viruses called coronavirus.
  • Both originated in a Chinese province—SARS in Guangdong and COVID-19 in Wuhan.
  • Both spread rapidly through the local population and later jumped international borders.


The differences:

  • SARS, with a death rate of about ten percent, was more fatal than COVID-19, which has a death rate of about two percent
  • COVID-19 is spreading more rapidly than SARS did, with the latest figures (which update almost hourly) showing it has killed more than 3,100 people and infected 93,000 others since mid-December. It has spread to at least 76 other countries. SARS infected 8,098 people and killed 774 in eight months, spreading to 29 other countries.
  • Most people with SARS became ill between two and ten days after exposure. COVID-19 has a 14-day incubation period.
SARS CoV - 2 also attacks other organs and this is a fact that I know from people who have had the virus... especially those with high blood pressure and heart problems ...etc.,
Not only a respiratory disease.
 

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Obviously, quinine has medicinal benefits.
Absolutely it does. A very long history and very useful effects.
EleventhHour must be ignorant of the fact that it is one of the WHO's essential medications!
Such a failure and omission is simply outrageous and shocking!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO_Model_List_of_Essential_Medicines

Amodiaquine
Artesunate/amodiaquine
Artesunate/mefloquine
Chloroquine
Dihydroartemisinin/piperaquine phosphate
Mefloquine
Primaquine
Quinine
Amodiaquine
Chloroquine
Mefloquine
 
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Absolutely it does. A very long history and very useful effects.
EleventhHour must be ignorant of the fact that it is one of the WHO's essential medications!
Such a failure and omission is simply outrageous and shocking!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO_Model_List_of_Essential_Medicines

Amodiaquine
Artesunate/amodiaquine
Artesunate/mefloquine
Chloroquine
Dihydroartemisinin/piperaquine phosphate
Mefloquine
Primaquine
Quinine
Amodiaquine
Chloroquine
Mefloquine
You need to lighten up the laugh was in a good way.....smh!!
I know all about quinine too!
 
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I dont get it
are they the same "no"
Are they different "yes"
show me

"well with sars you do not feel tired and can still taste things".

Oh wow...thank goodness we cant use hydroxy on co 19....we could die of that hydroxy...it only worked on sars...you see covid 19 is way way different.......roll eyes


Summary: Differences between SARs and COVID-19 SARSCOVID-19VirusCoronavirusCoronavirusSymptoms
  • Fever
  • Head and body aches
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath
  • Diarrhea
  • Sore throat
  • Fever
  • Head and body aches
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath
  • Diarrhea
  • Fatigue,
  • Loss of taste or smell
  • Nausea
Fatality rate10%Evolving; see latest stats hereTreatmentOTC medsOTC medsMost at riskAdults over 60 and people with health conditionsOlder adults, people who are immunocompromised or have health conditions
How serious are these illnesses?
 
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OK I got it!
now we are really going to see the difference between the 2

Oh wait...nah...they are about the same thing.



Coronavirus vs. SARS
In short, this Chinese Coronavirus virus differs from SARS in that

  • It has a lower mortality rate.
  • It spread much more quickly.
  • Symptoms take longer to appear and therefore it is more difficult to detect infected people.
  • There is a possibility that it may mutate into something completely different.
 

soggykitten

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So much misinformation SARS Cov-1 is not longer on the planet it out died out this is a well known fact.

That is why contact tracing is so important, viruses need a host to survive.

Do some research.
It is your claim. You provide the research.
 

Nehemiah6

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Absolutely it does. A very long history and very useful effects.
Correct. Getting back to the CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY, here is what Dr. Zelenko has just said (and he sent a detailed letter to Trump in March which was virtually ignored because Fauci is Trump's buddy):

COVID-19 Dr. Zelenko: 150,000 Americans and Many More Around the World Are Dead Because HCQ Stood in the Way of Making Trillions (VIDEO)

"Back in March Dr. Zelenko treated 699 coronavirus patients with HCQ and Zinc with 100% success."


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ld-dead-hcq-stood-way-making-trillions-video/

Which means that Anthony Fauci OUTSMARTED Trump every day for five months (and continues to do so).

Fauci and his buddy at Gilead Sciences stand to reap BILLIONS from Remdesivir (which costs $3,500 per treatment, needs to be injected, and is not even half as effective as HCQ). One of the biggest scams in history!
 

cv5

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Correct. Getting back to the CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY, here is what Dr. Zelenko has just said (and he sent a detailed letter to Trump in March which was virtually ignored because Fauci is Trump's buddy):

COVID-19 Dr. Zelenko: 150,000 Americans and Many More Around the World Are Dead Because HCQ Stood in the Way of Making Trillions (VIDEO)

"Back in March Dr. Zelenko treated 699 coronavirus patients with HCQ and Zinc with 100% success."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ld-dead-hcq-stood-way-making-trillions-video/

Which means that Anthony Fauci OUTSMARTED Trump every day for five months (and continues to do so).

Fauci and his buddy at Gilead Sciences stand to reap BILLIONS from Remdesivir (which costs $3,500 per treatment, needs to be injected, and is not even half as effective as HCQ). One of the biggest scams in history!
I think that a consortium of concerned doctors should go ahead and file a lawsuit against Fauci. Accused him of everything under the sun and end his leadership in this matter. The man is bad news and right from the very beginning.
 
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Trump presented the idea of hydroxy long ago and they ,the media,were attacking.

I really hope the message /value gets out.
 

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Nehemiah6

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I think that a consortium of concerned doctors should go ahead and file a lawsuit against Fauci.
Actually that is too mild. Criminal charges should be brought against him by the Attorney General immediately, and all his assets frozen, and seized. He should also be stripped of his medical standing as well as his position with NIH.

There is more than enough evidence to lock him up for the MURDER (however it may be worded) of 150,000 Americans by deliberately blocking access to HCQ (with help from the FDA) and also making bogus decisions to destroy the economy and the lives of millions. His assets should be liquidated and the families of those who died from COVID-19 should be compensated with them.

But he is not alone in this since Redfied and Brix, and no doubt others, are co-conspirators. At the same time all the Leftist media should also be charged as co-conspirators and given appropriate penalties (huge fines at the very least), which again should go to compensate families for wrongful deaths. They all falsely attacked HCQ just at a critical time when it was desperately needed.
 

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Actually that is too mild. Criminal charges should be brought against him by the Attorney General immediately, and all his assets frozen, and seized. He should also be stripped of his medical standing as well as his position with NIH.

There is more than enough evidence to lock him up for the MURDER (however it may be worded) of 150,000 Americans by deliberately blocking access to HCQ (with help from the FDA) and also making bogus decisions to destroy the economy and the lives of millions. His assets should be liquidated and the families of those who died from COVID-19 should be compensated with them.

But he is not alone in this since Redfied and Brix, and no doubt others, are co-conspirators. At the same time all the Leftist media should also be charged as co-conspirators and given appropriate penalties (huge fines at the very least), which again should go to compensate families for wrongful deaths. They all falsely attacked HCQ just at a critical time when it was desperately needed.
You basically saying lock up 30-50 people?

Civil war, and the general population are being led by the media.

Once things get past Nov 3rd, it will be a different ball game.
 

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Actually that is too mild. Criminal charges should be brought against him by the Attorney General immediately, and all his assets frozen, and seized. He should also be stripped of his medical standing as well as his position with NIH.

There is more than enough evidence to lock him up for the MURDER (however it may be worded) of 150,000 Americans by deliberately blocking access to HCQ (with help from the FDA) and also making bogus decisions to destroy the economy and the lives of millions. His assets should be liquidated and the families of those who died from COVID-19 should be compensated with them.

But he is not alone in this since Redfied and Brix, and no doubt others, are co-conspirators. At the same time all the Leftist media should also be charged as co-conspirators and given appropriate penalties (huge fines at the very least), which again should go to compensate families for wrongful deaths. They all falsely attacked HCQ just at a critical time when it was desperately needed.
Think of the numbers of people Covid 19 has supposedly killed? We'll never truly know those. But the at risk groups are made more so when we read the elderly and infirm diagnosed, are being moved into old folks homes! Closed confines so the disease can spread and take more victims.
Where's the masking? Where's the six feet apart?

Maybe the reason quacks and leftist tools like Fauci are acting this way is due to a directive from those in the Democratic party. Higher ups I'm thinking. Look at what's jumped off since Covid 19 made news! Panic! Before that though people were getting use to the comfort of elective self isolation when they could survive on all they needed to do so with the click of a mouse. And delivery to their door.

Now, being told, stay indoors! It's a mandate! Not a law, so there's nothing that can actually be done if you don't comply. And the reason is, why?
Maybe it is because its a test to see how indifferent the American public are when threatened with that unseen enemy.
And now we're being told, and I think this was the second purpose behind the release of this viral weapon, we'll have to vote from home! Not physically at the polls. No ID needed to mail in a ballot, no postmark either. And you can mail in your ballots in California two weeks AFTER the election! No return address on the envelope.
They're blank, the mail in ballots! No ID linking to you. And some are receiving more than one in the mail in this Democratic state. No chance of multiple ballot mailers on that score.

Then, to really scare you to stay home? The release and Democratic sponsored enabling of domestic terrorists in west coast cities. Seattle and Portland!
That'll make you stay home. But in the event the terrorist find where you live and decide to attack you, don't bring out a gun to defend yourselves before they can break in the door. Or, you'll be arrested. Because somehow when domestic terrorists threaten you, trespassing, terrorist threats, and vandalism laws evaporate from the books. And don't call the cops because, well, there are no cops!

What I don't get about that whole thing that could be shut down in a heartbeat is, Federal Marshals haven't taken the Democratic Governors and Mayors of Washington-Seattle, and Oregon-Portland, on the charge of Treason. Arrest them, bring in the national guard, surround the terrorists, take them into custody. Occupation, over!

Here's an idea a friend of mine shot off to us all in an email with this article from a few days ago. What if all of this that's not being prosecuted as it would have been say under Ford, or any Republican President of the past had it happened on his watch, is a bigger plot than we think.
Remembering the Electoral College elects the President, and Congress has to approve that ballot count, which seems odd given Congress hate of President Trump, what if all of this is a scheme to benefit both sides? What if the hammer isn't coming down on Traitors in Oregon and Washington State government because what will ultimately happen is Martial Law?
In which case, at that national level, lets say this occupation spreads to one or two more American Democratic controlled cities, the sitting President remains in office for the duration. Scary thought. But since Trump has been a Democrat in the past and rubbed elbows with the career poli's in Congress today, not impossible. Before when he was running for the office he kept saying one phrase. Law and Order.
I don't Tweet but I do follow him there. He's started saying that same thing again and months ago. Law and Order!What is the strongest measure to impart that? Martial Law.



'Patriot' Movement Conspicuously Absent From Portland's Federal Overreach Protests https://www.npr.org/2020/07/27/8959...nt-from-portland-s-federal-overreach-protests
July 27, 2020
 

Truth7t7

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Think of the numbers of people Covid 19 has supposedly killed? We'll never truly know those. But the at risk groups are made more so when we read the elderly and infirm diagnosed, are being moved into old folks homes! Closed confines so the disease can spread and take more victims.
Where's the masking? Where's the six feet apart?

Maybe the reason quacks and leftist tools like Fauci are acting this way is due to a directive from those in the Democratic party. Higher ups I'm thinking. Look at what's jumped off since Covid 19 made news! Panic! Before that though people were getting use to the comfort of elective self isolation when they could survive on all they needed to do so with the click of a mouse. And delivery to their door.

Now, being told, stay indoors! It's a mandate! Not a law, so there's nothing that can actually be done if you don't comply. And the reason is, why?
Maybe it is because its a test to see how indifferent the American public are when threatened with that unseen enemy.
And now we're being told, and I think this was the second purpose behind the release of this viral weapon, we'll have to vote from home! Not physically at the polls. No ID needed to mail in a ballot, no postmark either. And you can mail in your ballots in California two weeks AFTER the election! No return address on the envelope.
They're blank, the mail in ballots! No ID linking to you. And some are receiving more than one in the mail in this Democratic state. No chance of multiple ballot mailers on that score.

Then, to really scare you to stay home? The release and Democratic sponsored enabling of domestic terrorists in west coast cities. Seattle and Portland!
That'll make you stay home. But in the event the terrorist find where you live and decide to attack you, don't bring out a gun to defend yourselves before they can break in the door. Or, you'll be arrested. Because somehow when domestic terrorists threaten you, trespassing, terrorist threats, and vandalism laws evaporate from the books. And don't call the cops because, well, there are no cops!

What I don't get about that whole thing that could be shut down in a heartbeat is, Federal Marshals haven't taken the Democratic Governors and Mayors of Washington-Seattle, and Oregon-Portland, on the charge of Treason. Arrest them, bring in the national guard, surround the terrorists, take them into custody. Occupation, over!

Here's an idea a friend of mine shot off to us all in an email with this article from a few days ago. What if all of this that's not being prosecuted as it would have been say under Ford, or any Republican President of the past had it happened on his watch, is a bigger plot than we think.
Remembering the Electoral College elects the President, and Congress has to approve that ballot count, which seems odd given Congress hate of President Trump, what if all of this is a scheme to benefit both sides? What if the hammer isn't coming down on Traitors in Oregon and Washington State government because what will ultimately happen is Martial Law?
In which case, at that national level, lets say this occupation spreads to one or two more American Democratic controlled cities, the sitting President remains in office for the duration. Scary thought. But since Trump has been a Democrat in the past and rubbed elbows with the career poli's in Congress today, not impossible. Before when he was running for the office he kept saying one phrase. Law and Order.
I don't Tweet but I do follow him there. He's started saying that same thing again and months ago. Law and Order!What is the strongest measure to impart that? Martial Law.



'Patriot' Movement Conspicuously Absent From Portland's Federal Overreach Protests https://www.npr.org/2020/07/27/8959...nt-from-portland-s-federal-overreach-protests
July 27, 2020
You don't understand why Federal Marshalls arent moving in immediately and arresting Governor's and Mayor's in democratic city's and states?

67% of Americans don't want to (Defund The Police) even a higher percentage is against the unlawful chaos seen?

What is going on in the Democratic strongholds is a (Big Campaign Ad) for Trump/Pence 2020

After Nov 3rd is when the real fireworks begin, then you will see Law and order established, and four more years of erasing the Godless Liberal Agenda!
 
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Hydroxy only kills sars?
That is like saying bug spray kills only roaches. No other bug.
 

Nehemiah6

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Look at what's jumped off since Covid 19 made news! Panic!
Exactly. The whole idea was to create panic through fear-mongering. And everyone bought it hook, line, and sinker. Now finally ethical doctors are waking up and seeing the serious breach of medical ethics. Dr. Josef Mengele was doing for the Nazis what Dr. Fauci is doing for the Democrats.