Trump Outsmarts them again

Ok
I am sorry you are buying the propaganda.

Of course they are different.
Like a tabby cat and Persian cat are different.

Both cats get different meds right?

I made no mean remarks.
I want you to jettison the propaganda you are immersed in.

Facts kinda do that.

I went back and double checked.
No mean remarks that I can find.

Show me the one you are talking about.

Early on my estimate of the case fatality rate was 3.2%. I now believe that it is quite a bit lower because there are asymptomatic cases that are never registered. The case fatality rate may be under one percent.......but we will never know without the benefit of a dedicated comprehensive study. But even without any dedicated study it is clear to anybody with common sense that one does not need to lockdown the entire economy, schools and churches because of the fear of COVID-19 infection. The only strictures that makes sense are those regarding elderly, who are in fact at high risk.

Double blind studies are the gold standard there is no doubt about that. But it is intellectually dishonest and patently false to state that one needs to conduct a double-blind study before reaching a robustly confident consensus on medical therapy. Furthermore HCQ (and its precursors and derivatives) has been thoroughly studied for many decades.

Demanding double blind studies for this specific therapy is complete nonsense, and is costing and has cost many lives. Furthermore many many reputable doctors are speaking out in support of HCQ.

IMO there are plenty of dirty doctors working with big Pharma out there looking for power and money. Fauci for one and there are plenty of others.

Massive explosion rocks Beirut. Mushroom cloud several kilometers high.

The proper research below clearly shows Hydroxy + Azithromycin has a 71% hazard reduction rating, that beats O% without treatment?

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and combination in patients hospitalized with COVID-19

• Samia Arshad
• Paul Kilgore
• Zohra S. Chaudhry
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• William O’Neill
• Marcus Zervos
• Henry Ford COVID-19 Task Force 1
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Published:July 01, 2020
DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijid.2020.06.099

Objective
The purpose of this study was to evaluate the role of hydroxychloroquine therapy alone and in combination with azithromycin in hospitalized patients positive for COVID-19.

Results
Hydroxychloroquine provided a 66% hazard ratio reduction, and hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin 71% compared to neither treatment (p < 0.001).

Conclusions and relevance
In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality. Prospective trials are needed to examine this impact.

Thank you .. information like this is the springboard for a Double Blind Randomized Study.

It is the only way to control for the placebo effect.

You see a study performed by Henry Does Covid19 task force, it has a 71% hazard reduction and reduced mortality rate?

You don't believe Hydroxy/Azithromycin is worth using on patients, to gain the 71% reduced hazard and reduced mortality?

Correct. Fauci should have been arrested, along with Gates and Soros, and prosecuted for a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY to inflate deaths in th USA unnecessarily. You could fairly call him *Dr. Death*. That should have happened back in March, when the truth started coming out.

Had the HCQ package been freely available to absolutely anyone and everyone -- free of charge -- those deaths could have been cut in half or even more. Instead CDC, NIH, and all the so-called *experts* (along with the slavering media) ATTACKED HCQ. That is not only irresponsible, but criminal.

If trillions of dollars are going into these bogus *stimulus* packages, then a few hundred thousand dollars for the HCQ package wold have been drop in the bucket. The pharmacies would have been paid, but the public would not have to pay a dime.

But what is extremely troubling is that even after these evildoers have been outed Trump has done nothing. They continue to shape the narrative and set national policy. Which makes Trump an accessory.

At least 50-80 studies have already been conducted. Demands for studies is TOTALLY BOGUS. Just an excuse to prevent HCQ from reaching the public. This is called SABOTAGE.

I agree 100%, Hydroxy, Zinc, Azithromycin are effective treatments, no further research needed

These drugs/minerals have been used for decades, as Fauci sits silent on the facts?

Fauci is 100% a criminal, in the realm of Andrew Cuomo, and his mandate to send infected elderly into healthy Convalescent hospitals, while the Javits center and Navy hospital ship sat empty, with Doctors and nurses waiting?

Why is America and the world silent on these facts, President Trump has stated this exact topic several times over the past 2 weeks?

Andrew Cuomo is getting away with murdering the elderly, and the media is silent?

All US government agencies function under the President. So if the Attorney General is sitting on his hands while deaths skyrocket needlessly, and America burns, it is the President who must take full responsibility.

I missed the link to your proof.

To your knowledge are there any?

Proof of which?

Really? I asked for proof link to your claim that I quoted.

President Trump is up to his ears in democratic chaos.

Andrew Cuomo committed the crime for the world to see, where is anyone in the media, Congress, Law Enforcement speaking up?

Sad to say, the actions of Cuomo are on the back burner in the midst of the present chaos.

It continues to be a curiosity for me. How a flu virus that we're being told is killing millions of people, world tally to date, when in America we also know those fatality numbers can't be trusted due to what came out about the HHS ordering doctors to declare all patients who die must have Covid 19 as the attributable cause marked on their death certificate, and untold numbers of people world wide testing positive for Covid 19, even though in America we learn we can't trust those numbers because it is being revealed that people who have not been tested are notified they tested positive for C19, that anyone would denigrate any drug, hope, people may have to fight this supposedly rampant pandemic novel virus.

But still, what helps to remember and keep the joy of Christ in my heart is taking a break to watch cute baby and puppy videos, and to then realize there is a truth to the old axiom, Devil's advocate. Some, like whom I believe to be Fauci, are entirely his.

In that capacity and in the spirit of sharing with sisters and brothers who have a genuine concern for the eradication of at least the fear that's been implanted in American society concerning Covid 19, I share this.

For those who wish to read more/
Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Clinical Trial Basics



Article/ Randomized, Controlled, Double-blind Clinical Trial Comparing the Efficacy and Safety of Chemoprophylaxis With Hydroxychloroquine in Patients Under Biological Treatment and / or JAK Inhibitors in the Prevention of SARS-CoV-2 Infection

Furthermore, primate trials are a first step in most pharmacological research studies. That was information included in the Fauci image posted earlier. Most will remember that image and the reference to Virology Journal.


Note: The article does not state Dr.Fauci as author of said research. It refers to Fauci's NIH, National Institute of Health. Just in case the rebuttal comes as, show me where Dr.Fauci's name is attached to that article! (posted below)
NIH Allergies and Infectious Diseases
Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.

Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.

Credit: NIAID
Director, NIAID
Chief, Laboratory of Immunoregulation
Chief, Immunopathogenesis Section


Below is the link to that article of research referred to in the above picture including Dr.Fauci.

Virology Journal August 22, 2005 Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

Excerpted:
The infectivity of coronaviruses other than SARS-CoV are also affected by chloroquine, as exemplified by the human CoV-229E [15]. The inhibitory effects observed on SARS-CoV infectivity and cell spread occurred in the presence of 1–10 μM chloroquine, which are plasma concentrations achievable during the prophylaxis and treatment of malaria (varying from 1.6–12.5 μM) [26] and hence are well tolerated by patients. It recently was speculated that chloroquine might be effective against SARS and the authors suggested that this compound might block the production of TNFα, IL6, or IFNγ [15]. Our data provide evidence for the possibility of using the well-established drug chloroquine in the clinical management of SARS.



Lastly, SARS CoV remains an issue.


BMJ Journal Thorax
Editorial
Where is SARS now?
Excerpted:
Although co-infection with SARS CoV and another agent has not been ruled out as the cause of SARS (particularly in “superspreaders” causing numerous secondary cases), SARS CoV alone seems likely to be the cause of most cases of SARS and can reproduce the disease in non-human primates.1,2 Coronaviruses have the distinction of containing the largest genome of all known RNA viruses. They are widespread throughout the animal kingdom, causing bronchitis (poultry), hepatitis (mice), enteritis (horses and pigs) and peritonitis (cats), but often infecting multiple sites. Known coronaviruses fall into three clades (members of two of which cause about 20% of common colds), but the SARS CoV occupies a new fourth clade of its own. It is clearly a coronavirus, but not closely related to any previously sequenced virus. It presumably arose from an animal source in southern China, perhaps in a species with relatively little contact with man and in which viral disease has been little studied. The civet cat has been proposed as a possible source, but systematic studies of coronaviruses in a wide spectrum of wild and semi-domestic species are not yet complete. RNA viruses tend to evolve rapidly and coronaviruses frequently undergo homologous recombination, so that co-infection with an established human coronavirus and SARS CoV could lead to emergence of new virus species combining various features of the parental strains.