LET THE WOMAN LEARN IN SILENCE - WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

It is clear in verse 12, that women were not to be allowed to preach publicly, in churches. But it is less clear what verse 11 means, as to the order for women to learn in silence in church. So since the Bible is not clear on that subject, I think women have to prayerfully decide that for themselves.
1 Tim 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
KJV
We have recently started to attend a Mennonite church in town here. I like the church a lot. I admire and enjoy how so many men are willing to preach in the meetings. This is not true in most other churches. I have chosen not to even answer Bible questions that are asked by some of the preachers there, as I'm afraid it would offend some men there or intimidate them. My own dad (now with the Lord in heaven) said he believed women should not talk at all in Bible meetings or church meetings. I also learned from a man (Jerry) that attends the Mennonite church - that he doesn't believe women should speak in church meetings. So I gather that a number of men feel that way.
I am curious to know others' opinions of why it may be that men speak so little in most other churches. What do you think? Do you think it's because in our society - culture - women are largely often overly controlling over men (or insubmissive) , such as their own husbands?
I know their men are taught to preach a lot more commonly in their youth, compared to in Christian families that attend most other churches. I like that, and can imagine that is one reason this Mennonite church has so many men who like to teach and preach.
Also, I notice in the visiting time that takes place outdoors after Sunday AM church services - that the men show a lot more enjoyment for talking together (and discussing spiritual things too with others), as compared to what I see in other churches. They aren't in a hurry to rush home. The women too - of course, enjoy visiting together, too during that time - more than I see in other churches.

It is clear in verse 12, that women were not to be allowed to preach publicly, in churches. But it is less clear what verse 11 means, as to the order for women to learn in silence in church. So since the Bible is not clear on that subject, I think women have to prayerfully decide that for themselves.
1 Tim 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
KJV
We have recently started to attend a Mennonite church in town here. I like the church a lot. I admire and enjoy how so many men are willing to preach in the meetings. This is not true in most other churches. I have chosen not to even answer Bible questions that are asked by some of the preachers there, as I'm afraid it would offend some men there or intimidate them. My own dad (now with the Lord in heaven) said he believed women should not talk at all in Bible meetings or church meetings. I also learned from a man (Jerry) that attends the Mennonite church - that he doesn't believe women should speak in church meetings. So I gather that a number of men feel that way.
I am curious to know others' opinions of why it may be that men speak so little in most other churches. What do you think? Do you think it's because in our society - culture - women are largely often overly controlling over men (or insubmissive) , such as their own husbands?
I know their men are taught to preach a lot more commonly in their youth, compared to in Christian families that attend most other churches. I like that, and can imagine that is one reason this Mennonite church has so many men who like to teach and preach.
Also, I notice in the visiting time that takes place outdoors after Sunday AM church services - that the men show a lot more enjoyment for talking together (and discussing spiritual things too with others), as compared to what I see in other churches. They aren't in a hurry to rush home. The women too - of course, enjoy visiting together, too during that time - more than I see in other churches.

As I have stated in many other similar threads Paul saying that "I do not permit' is not the same as God saying that He does not permit. It was Paul's opinion that women should keep quiet in church and not God's.

At my church's quarterly business meetings (which sometimes involve issues on how the church should be operated, etc.), sometimes people are passionate about certain issues including women who may talk for a long time on how they feel, and I think it is beneficial to know all the different views and ideas floating around. Our Bible study groups are mostly co-ed, but it is mostly women who attend and lead the discussion. Of the 10 women or so who attend in these groups, there are probably only two men. There is also a men's group, as well as unofficial ladies' groups. Sometimes we have congregation-wide studies where we all sit in the sanctuary (to fit everyone), and everyone is encouraged to raise their hands and speak up.

I think women being silent in church may lead to other consequences, such as girls/women subconsciously thinking they should be silent in the classroom, the workspace, etc., or anywhere where a boy/man is present. Is this a good thing?

Priscilla was a teacher who taught another man (Apollos). So, I believe women, certainly married women, can teach other men.

I agree
Maybe Paul said it because he had in his mind that Eve led Adam astray...
...xox...

I agree
Maybe Paul said it because he had in his mind that Eve led Adam astray...
...xox...

She was with her husband and they pulled him aside.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

another thread for pugilists, misogynists, misinterpretation and all around bad feelings.

Because of course this has never ever been argued discussed before in this forum

At my church's quarterly business meetings (which sometimes involve issues on how the church should be operated, etc.), sometimes people are passionate about certain issues including women who may talk for a long time on how they feel, and I think it is beneficial to know all the different views and ideas floating around. Our Bible study groups are mostly co-ed, but it is mostly women who attend and lead the discussion. Of the 10 women or so who attend in these groups, there are probably only two men. There is also a men's group, as well as unofficial ladies' groups. Sometimes we have congregation-wide studies where we all sit in the sanctuary (to fit everyone), and everyone is encouraged to raise their hands and speak up.

I think women being silent in church may lead to other consequences, such as girls/women subconsciously thinking they should be silent in the classroom, the workspace, etc., or anywhere where a boy/man is present. Is this a good thing?

Maybe Paul said it because he was moved by the Holy Spirit.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

another thread for pugilists, misogynists, misinterpretation and all around bad feelings.

Because of course this has never ever been argued discussed before in this forum

Say what? Priscila was in fact was a teacher over men. Deborah was a judge over the entire nation of Israel. There are other examples in the bible that have women in positions of authority over men.

It is clear in verse 12, that women were not to be allowed to preach publicly, in churches. But it is less clear what verse 11 means, as to the order for women to learn in silence in church. So since the Bible is not clear on that subject, I think women have to prayerfully decide that for themselves.
1 Tim 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
KJV

The verse at hand is concerning the body of Christ. Do you not agree with God?