What translation has the exact words of God preserved for English speakers?

Given that you claim this, do you accept the following statements as equally true in every sense:

Since NIV is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.
Since NASB is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.
Since RSV is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.
Since Wycliffe is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.
Since CSV is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.
Since TLB is an English scripture, it is given by inspiration.

???

I said nothing about "official and authoritative". However, Jesus quoted it, and that's about as "official and authoritative" as it can get.

Inspiration means God gave the exact words to the writers of Scripture. That was in the original manuscripts - in Greek and Hebrew. "KJV only" teaches that God over 1500 years later gave (inspired) some new "exact words" in a different language (English) that either supercede or equal the original words. (Thus there is no need to study the original words!?). Adding to God's inspired Word is heresy!

There was no pre-Christian, official and authoritative so called Greek Septuagint. What passes for the LXX today is nothing more than the Vaticanus, Sinaiticus and Alexandrinus manuscripts, all of which were written some 250 to 300 years AFTER the New Testament was already complete.

Furthermore, if there had been an authoritative pre-Christian LXX in wide use and circulation, there would not have been any need for people like Jerome, Aquila, Symmachus, Theodotian, Lucian and Hesychius to make their own translations years later.

There are several so called Septuagints out there and none of them agree with the others. There are only a few remaining scraps that could possibly be dated as B.C. writings, and even those sites that mention them tell us that they do not agree with other Septuagint copies. In all likelihood they are nothing more than the confused remnants of an independent individual's own attempt at a translation, just as several others did at a later date.

If a person knows anything about the so called Greek LXX, then they know it is a horrible translation, almost a total paraphrase and it differs by literally hundreds of whole verses either added to or omitted from what we have in the Hebrew Scriptures and it differs A LOT in many places from what the Hebrew O.T. says.

If you deny Christ, He will deny you. "If we deny Him, He also will deny us" (2Timothy2:12) If people not see Christ in Kabbalah then they are blind. Even the "Jewish" see it, they just avoid talking about it. There is an article on Wiki if you want to do a study on Christian Kabbalah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Kabbalah

Right now I am just doing a study on the Hebrew letters and Jesus is the word of God. There is a lot more "antichrist" in the Church then there is in Kabbalah. I am a little worried about you sense people are always guilty of what they accuse others of. Perhaps you are the one that need to get the victory over the devil.

Do you know Jesus as your personal saviour? Are you saved, born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. Are you attending a church that is alive for God or are you attending a dead church somewhere?

My claim is KJV is an English scripture because KJV says, All scripture is given by inspiration of God 2 Tim. 3:16. Here’s a simple math to chuckle on.

If A=B

and B= C

then A = C

Application:

If the KJV (A) =( B ) Scripture

And Scripture (B) = (C) is given by inspiration of God.

Then KJV (A) = (C) is given by inspiration of God.



Am here to defend KJV and I don’t know with the others, it is you who said that ‘no translation’ isn’t inspired. So, everything I allude is absolutely nothing. What else I gonna say, I cannot even answer your given data since it is incomplete, needs to be check first if they are same thing as KJV says and that is one reason we need comparison in which thing you also abhor. This are only but a tricky game you want to employ. Did the NIV and others on your data really says of itself “is given by inspiration of God”? My suggestion you need to check that first in the Bible hub and show to me first if they are ‘given by inspiration of God’. Then will discuss further. Thanks.

Ok thanks, if I may exactly what you are inferring, when you say Inspiration means God gave the exact words to the writers of Scripture.' is not the meaning of inspiration but rather Transmission, so I am now seeing your view. Seeing it "was in the original manuscript" employs were once inspired but now expired, but that was my understanding.

[re: kjv] and they made it to update the language, just like we do today. They wanted to improve upon the previous translations, which most people who held to the Geneva Bible would probably look at the same way as you guys do ESV today.

Anyway, you can't disproved, you haven't have any scripture to to prove that translation is not the word of God. I have to congratulate you, it's your lucky day! you just won the 5000.00 prize by spinning the wheel

Have I? Have you responded? Can a translation be inspired?

My suggestion you need to check that first in the Bible hub and show to me first if they are ‘given by inspiration of God’. Then will discuss further. Thanks.

Can you prove I haven't responded? Seriously! Give the post # where I did not respond. Figure that out.

More opinions without proof.

My claim is KJV is an English scripture because KJV says, All scripture is given by inspiration of God 2 Tim. 3:16. Here’s a simple math to chuckle on.

Question...can a translation be inspired? Careful how you answer...

Can you prove I haven't responded? Seriously! Give the post # where I did not respond. Figure that out.

1. I have consistently maintained that the King James Bible (a.k.a. the Authorized Version of 1611) is THE ONLY translation in English which is a faithful, reliable, and trustworthy English translation for general use to this day. It had established itself as the leading English translation for over 400 years (which speaks for itself). The Geneva Bible is parallel to it, but because it promotes Reformed Theology, it has been set aside.

2. Even though a large number of the KJV translators were Puritans and Anglicans, they did not allow their Reformed Theology to distort their translation. And since there were about 50 translators involved (all outstanding scholars who were devout Christians) there were already checks and balances in place. (They did add words in italics to help the reader, but they also made it clear through that that those words were not in the Hebrew and Greek).

3. The objection to the archaic language of the KJV is no longer valid, since the King James 2000 Bible has already addressed that issue. There are also a couple of other updated forms of the KJV (but the NKJV is untrustworthy).

4. Only the original writings of the prophets, evangelists, and apostles can be regarded as "inspired", since the writer was under the total control of the Holy Spirit, and the words recorded are indeed the words of the Spirit or the words of God. This is clear from several passages in Scripture. Inspiration (Greek theopneustos) means "God-breathed" and refers to the original autographs (manuscripts).

5. The King James translators used the traditional (or received) Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible in printed form, but had access to all existing translations and versions, as well as a limited number of manuscripts. Their primary goal was to make out of many good translations one to which no one could take exception. And for over 300 years conservative theologians, commentators, pastors, evangelists and ordinary Christians treated the King James Bible as the very Word of God. And textual scholars in the 19th century confirmed that the Hebrew and Greek were supported by the majority of manuscripts. IOW the King James Bible represented the true texts.

6. It is only since the late 19th century that rationalistic textual scholars began promoting a handful of corrupt Greek manuscripts (primarily TWO), and as a result all modern English translations since 1881 have been corrupted, and are therefore TOTALLY UNRELIABLE. Therefore there are absolutely no trustworthy modern translations (in spite of all the bogus claims made for this).

7. None of the above is mere opinion, but is based on the facts of the case. Anyone who honestly and objectively wishes to check this out may do so and discover the truth about modern translations. The sad fact is that the majority of prominent and well-know Christian personalities today have swallowed the Great Bible Version Hoax hook, line, and sinker. And even after you draw their attention to the issue, they refuse to give up their false bibles. A good examples of false bibles is the absence of Acts 8:37 -- a key verse which cannot be removed from the passage without making it sound nonsensical.

4. Only the original writings of the prophets, evangelists, and apostles can be regarded as "inspired", since the writer was under the total control of the Holy Spirit, and the words recorded are indeed the words of the Spirit or the words of God. This is clear from several passages in Scripture. Inspiration (Greek theopneustos) means "God-breathed" and refers to the original autographs (manuscripts).

Here are the various versions. I'll respond to the rest of your post later.

NASB All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

NIV All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

CSB All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness,

RSV All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

WYC For all scripture inspired of God is profitable to teach, to reprove, to chastise, [for] to learn in rightwiseness,

... and

TLB The whole Bible was given to us by inspiration from God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives; it straightens us out and helps us do what is right.