Not By Works

I also add my amen - and submit the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints as my framework for doing so. We do not persevere because it is us working to - but Him working in us to keep us, so that no matter how much we may sin, we may never truly fall away - but must in the end persevere, if we are saved. Because we are saved.

1 John 2:1-3 "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments."

Inside myself? I do all the time.

Good, then hopefully you saw you were not innocent in the exchange, that’s why I said two wrongs do not make a right. That situation could have been handled a lot better before it escalated

I appreciate you looking out for me but I’d also appreciate you finding where I stated I’m innocent of anything. On another note I’m not going to argue with you over the likes of CC members who enjoy causing strife, of which you get dragged into.

I appreciate you looking out for me but I’d also appreciate you finding where I stated I’m innocent of anything. On another note I’m not going to argue with you over the likes of CC members who enjoy causing strife, of which you get dragged into.

From experience with the "passive-aggressive" behaviour you will always feel at a loss to help that person.
I think we all tried in earnest and most sincerely through a variety of approaches.

One of the things I think we all forget, myself included, is that there is an actual living human being behind that post that we react to in an unloving manner. And likely a Brother or Sister in Christ with us, although their doctrine may differ in areas, they hold on to the Core Gospel Message of God in the flesh, dying for our sin debt, resurrected on the 3rd Day.

That's one of the reasons I chose to put my pic up rather than something else. Not putting anyone down who doesn't, just saying my rationale.

One of the things I think we all forget, myself included, is that there is an actual living human being behind that post that we react to in an unloving manner. And likely a Brother or Sister in Christ with us, although their doctrine may differ in areas, they hold on to the Core Gospel Message of God in the flesh, dying for our sin debt, resurrected on the 3rd Day.

That's one of the reasons I chose to put my pic up rather than something else. Not putting anyone down who doesn't, just saying my rationale.

I hope that the energy put into sharing the gospel with the lost is equal to the energy spent in the arguments on display here.

I think I'll bow out of this thread, and possibly ChristianChat altogether. It's clear that most here hold that Calvinism isn't a viable Christian option, but is, as it was said in a previous post by a respected member here, akin to Mormonism and the likes. It's clear that the exchange isn't on level ground, and efforts spent here could be spent more profitably somewhere else.

I'm not sure if this thread, which is the first one I visited and responded to, because I enjoyed the original post so much, is representative of the CC community as a whole. Perhaps someone can direct me to a Calvinist thread, if it's not? I'll stick around long enough for a reply.

I wish you all the best - and I hope that the energy put into sharing the gospel with the lost is equal to the energy spent in the arguments on display here. There's a lost and dying world that needs the message of the cross, the gospel. And yes, I say that as a 5 point calvinist. (Just as there are different types of baptists, I'd encourage you to consider that there are different types of Calvinists, before writing us all off as herectics.)

The world needs an online Christian community where they can receive the gospel, where believers can come for encouragement, edification, instruction, and friendships. I'm just not sure - based on this thread - that CC is that place. I hope it is... I hope I'm wrong.

One of the things I think we all forget, myself included, is that there is an actual living human being behind that post that we react to in an unloving manner. And likely a Brother or Sister in Christ with us, although their doctrine may differ in areas, they hold on to the Core Gospel Message of God in the flesh, dying for our sin debt, resurrected on the 3rd Day.

That's one of the reasons I chose to put my pic up rather than something else. Not putting anyone down who doesn't, just saying my rationale.

Let me be clear about myself.
1. I do understand every poster is a human being and that God loves all of mankind.
2. I often use my avatar but sometimes put up my baby dachshund as he looks better than me.
3. I do not believe any "doctrine" but I study, love, the Word of God as presented in the bible.
4. I respond to posts according to how a post is worded. Good, bad, ugly.
5. I am a direct speaking person and if that comes across as blunt, just count that as one of my weaknesses.
6. I do not support false, dividing posts.

Now that's enough about "I".

God Bless us all.

I think I'll bow out of this thread, and possibly ChristianChat altogether. It's clear that most here hold that Calvinism isn't a viable Christian option, but is, as it was said in a previous post by a respected member here, akin to Mormonism and the likes. It's clear that the exchange isn't on level ground, and efforts spent here could be spent more profitably somewhere else.

I'm not sure if this thread, which is the first one I visited and responded to, because I enjoyed the original post so much, is representative of the CC community as a whole. Perhaps someone can direct me to a Calvinist thread, if it's not? I'll stick around long enough for a reply.

I wish you all the best - and I hope that the energy put into sharing the gospel with the lost is equal to the energy spent in the arguments on display here. There's a lost and dying world that needs the message of the cross, the gospel. And yes, I say that as a 5 point calvinist. (Just as there are different types of baptists, I'd encourage you to consider that there are different types of Calvinists, before writing us all off as herectics.)

The world needs an online Christian community where they can receive the gospel, where believers can come for encouragement, edification, instruction, and friendships. I'm just not sure - based on this thread - that CC is that place. I hope it is... I hope I'm wrong.

I think I'll bow out of this thread, and possibly ChristianChat altogether. It's clear that most here hold that Calvinism isn't a viable Christian option, but is, as it was said in a previous post by a respected member here, akin to Mormonism and the likes. It's clear that the exchange isn't on level ground, and efforts spent here could be spent more profitably somewhere else.

I'm not sure if this thread, which is the first one I visited and responded to, because I enjoyed the original post so much, is representative of the CC community as a whole. Perhaps someone can direct me to a Calvinist thread, if it's not? I'll stick around long enough for a reply.

I wish you all the best - and I hope that the energy put into sharing the gospel with the lost is equal to the energy spent in the arguments on display here. There's a lost and dying world that needs the message of the cross, the gospel. And yes, I say that as a 5 point calvinist. (Just as there are different types of baptists, I'd encourage you to consider that there are different types of Calvinists, before writing us all off as herectics.)

The world needs an online Christian community where they can receive the gospel, where believers can come for encouragement, edification, instruction, and friendships. I'm just not sure - based on this thread - that CC is that place. I hope it is... I hope I'm wrong.

That's one of the reasons I chose to put my pic up

I think I'll bow out of this thread, and possibly ChristianChat altogether. It's clear that most here hold that Calvinism isn't a viable Christian option, but is, as it was said in a previous post by a respected member here, akin to Mormonism and the likes. It's clear that the exchange isn't on level ground, and efforts spent here could be spent more profitably somewhere else.