The Incarnation of God.

From the National Catholic Register,

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydanus/is-jesus-a-human-person

From the National Catholic Register,

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydanus/is-jesus-a-human-person

From the National Catholic Register,

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydanus/is-jesus-a-human-person

Offered in support of the article published in NCR,

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/is-jesus-a-human-person

I believe Roman Catholicism teaches orthodox trinitarianism.

As seen in these articles, Roman Catholicism teaches that Jesus is not a human person.

The National Catholic Register does not define the definition of the orthodox belief in the Trinity.

Orthodox belief in the Trinity believes that Jesus is 100% man and 100% God.

I really don't care too much what Roman Catholicism says about Jesus - !!

Belief that Jesus is man like you and I - that means he is a human person - while He is also God at the same time.

I see Jesus presented in scripture as a human person who has a God.

He was born of a woman to become the first to rise from the dead.

Sorry for the aside, I would PM you but I am not a paid member. Are you the same Mattathias from the old bd.com?

So what do you make of the cases where Thomas and Paul clearly call Jesus, "God"?

Thomas went from not seeing God (the Father) in Jesus to seeing God (the Father) in Jesus.

As for Paul, which passage(s) do you have in mind?

Do you think Jesus himself has a God? If so,

a. who do you think that is; and
b. do you think there is any God besides his God?

Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God." He didn't say anything to indicate that he merely saw the Father in Jesus.

Paul's words... Titus 2:13, among others.

Then did he ever?

Are you telling me that you think Thomas went from believing only one person is God to believing two persons are God?

There are syntax issues with Titus 2:13. Some translations suggest that Paul is calling Jesus “God” and some translations suggest that Paul isn’t calling Jesus “God”. I personally go with the translations which preserve the unitarian belief of Jesus.

Before we go any further, I’d appreciate receiving a response to the questions I asked you in post #31. Otherwise, this is an interrogation, not a conversation.

Do you think Jesus himself has a God? If so,

a. who and how many persons do you think that is; and
b. do you think there is any God besides his God?

I am. Did I know you there?

I don't understand what you're getting at.

No.

I categorically reject the unitarian view.

Jesus Himself says, "My Father and your Father, My God and your God".

a.. There is one Father.

b. No. There is one God. The Father is God, Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

Yes. We talked quite a bit, actually. If you want to chat about it,
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John 14:1-11.



Thomas wasn’t an atheistic or an agnostic. He believed in the same God Jesus does prior to his comment to Jesus in John 20:28. If he didn’t go from believing God is one person to believing that God is two persons (and I agree that he didn’t) then he retained his belief in God being only one person. What then changed?



Then you categorically reject Jesus’ view. His God was, is, and always will be only one person, the Father.



So his God and his followers God is only one person, the Father.



Yes. And he is only one person.



I agree that there is no God besides Jesus’ God.

The Father is Jesus’ God.

Jesus is not Jesus’ God.

The Holy Spirit is not Jesus’ God.

I’ll throw in for good measure that the Trinity is not Jesus’ God.

I'm not going to play semantics with you. I reject your position.

I just joined.