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jackrosie said:
I do believe in The Father ,Son and Holy Spirit...no question of doubt about that...all three are one....who doesn’t believe that?
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Do you believe the moment a person is saved he is always saved or can he lose salvation
 
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Duskey said:
calvinism theology:
For God so loved the world He arbitrarily assigned some people to rot in hell.
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What ever their theology..if it’s not biblical then it’s false....same as any other man made religion...you can’t use the bible to say what you want it to say..( not you personally) I’m talking man made religion.
 
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mailmandan said:
God draws and enables (John 6:44,65) but not everyone responds. Not everyone is going to heaven. Not everyone believes. (John 3:18)
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I don’t agree with that.....God chooses who he draws..therefore knows who he will be saved,x
 
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jackrosie said:
I don’t agree with that.....God chooses who he draws..therefore knows who he will be saved,x
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This takes us into the general call (Matthew 22:14) vs the effectual call (Romans 8:30) If God only chooses and saves those who He draws and He only saves those who believe (John 3:18) then He would only draw those who He knows will believe.
 
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jackrosie said:
Eternal life is biblical therefore true.

Once saved always saved those words are not biblical ....therefore “those man made words” are false.
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As has been explained to you, OSAS is just terminology just like the Trinity. You will not find the word for either in the bible. A term is just an explanation.

If God says He gives us eternal life if we believe and accept His free gift, then eternal life is a one-time event. Do you believe in eternal life once and for all upon accepting salvation through Jesus Christ Our Lord?
 
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You think you can lose your Salvation? Or that God will throw some of His Children in the Lake of Fire?

I thought you did believe in Eternal Security.
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I think someone is talking to her behind the scenes. It sounds like something he would say. But I could be wrong
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
This is proven in the garden when God have Adam a choice. To obey or disobay
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Did God say to Adam and Eve you have a choice?

I recall God asking them not to eat from the tree of knowledge?

I don’t see any scripture that says you have a choice...can you show me that scripture,x
 
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PennEd said:
Ephesians 2:8-9 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and THAT not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.


If God did not gift us our faith, where did it come from?
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Where in my post did I claim it came from self?
can you please reread my post and show
Me how I said faith came from self?
 
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jackrosie said:
Did God say to Adam and Eve you have a choice?

I recall God asking them not to eat from the tree of knowledge?

I don’t see any scripture that says you have a choice...can you show me that scripture,x
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Was it not a "choice" to follow or not follow God's instruction? He told them where they could eat and where they could not eat. Thus, a choice.
 
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As has been explained to you, OSAS is just terminology just like the Trinity. You will not find the word for either in the bible. A term is just an explanation.

If God says He gives us eternal life if we believe and accept His free gift, then eternal life is a one-time event. Do you believe in eternal life once and for all upon accepting salvation through Jesus Christ Our Lord?
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It’s not biblical....therefore it is man made terminology....God chooses us we don’t choose him.

Osas is not biblical....eternal life is....therefore I believe in eternal life....I do not believe outside of God’s word....no matter how anyone presents it.
 
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No one is talking to me behind the scenes trust me.....I rely on the Holy Spirit to lead me....x
 
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jackrosie said:
It’s not biblical....therefore it is man made terminology....God chooses us we don’t choose him.

Osas is not biblical....eternal life is....therefore I believe in eternal life....I do not believe outside of God’s word....no matter how anyone presents it.
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Do you believe now that you are saved, that your salvation can be lost? Or do you believe once you accepted Jesus Christ that you are saved for all eternity?
 
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jackrosie said:
Eternal life is biblical therefore true.

Once saved always saved those words are not biblical ....therefore “those man made words” are false.
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Osas is not words Any more than trinity is words
it’s a term that declares once a person is saved they are always saved ie eternal security
again sis. Who is talking to you. This came up all a sudden. I find it hard to believe you just came up with this
 
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jackrosie said:
I don’t agree with that.....God chooses who he draws..therefore knows who he will be saved,x
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I do not agree with this as worded
god does not arbitrarily lol at 100 people and say I will draw these 59
And the rest i will let Rot in hell
 
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Was it not a "choice" to follow or not follow God's instruction? He told them where they could eat and where they could not eat. Thus, a choice.
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God not say to Adam you have a choice...he asked them not to eat from the tree.

They chose to disobey God and what he asked of them.

Show me where God said to Adam you have a choice?
Scripture please...
 
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