What will we eat in Heaven - according to scripture?

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Deade

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Physical bodies NEED physical food to exist...............

SPIRITUAL bodies need SPIRITUAL food to exist......

Do people REALLY THING we'll be urinating and defecating in Heaven? Seriously? That is what will have to happen if people are eating and drinking physical foods..........
I am convinced we won't need food, water, oxygen, etc. Our life force will exist in our spirits. Christ generated bodies for Him and a couple of angels that feasted with Abraham. All my references to "sweet savor" unto the Lord suggests that He occasionally did eat and enjoyed it. Maybe we will pull a fresh body out of our closet to go feast with the Lord. He said will feast:

Luke 22:30 "That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
 

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Rev 20:5-6 . . Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection.
Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God
and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

One of the reasons why the first resurrection is so blessed is because the
people who obtain it will rise from the dead immortal; whereas people whose
return to life is delayed till the second resurrection won't be immortal.

The thousand years are to take place right here on the current Earth prior to
its obliteration, which is really to our advantage because all the places we
did not, nor could not, visit and/or explore in this life will still be available to
us in the next.

Also during that time, man and beast will be at peace with one another so
that we'll have nothing to fear from critters like poisonous bugs, viruses,
piranha, crocodiles, deadly snakes, nor big predators like lions and tigers,
and bears, and wolves, etc. We will be able to tour the globe unmolested by
anything normally harmful to human life, health, and safety.

In addition, according to Psalm 91, celestial beings will be assigned to
protect us from falls so that those of us afraid of heights in this life won't
fear them then; we'll be free to climb, hike, and explore all the really
dangerous canyons and mountains that we tend to avoid for now. Drowning
won't be a hazard either; nor will war, and crime, and toxic vegetation.

Immortality coupled with angelic body guards can't get any better than that.
Man, I am really looking forward to God getting those thousand years up
and running.
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I am convinced we won't need food, water, oxygen, etc. Our life force will exist in our spirits. Christ generated bodies for Him and a couple of angels that feasted with Abraham. All my references to "sweet savor" unto the Lord suggests that He occasionally did eat and enjoyed it. Maybe we will pull a fresh body out of our closet to go feast with the Lord. He said will feast:

Luke 22:30 "That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
What will we eat in Heaven (also New Heaven and New Earth) - according to scripture?
What will we eat when we exist in a place where there is no hunger ?
 

Webers.Home

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What will we eat when we exist in a place where there is no hunger?

According to the book of Revelation; the first 1,000 years of the kingdom of
God will be situated on the current Earth prior to its obliteration and the
creation of a new.

The 1,000 year era is depicted in the Old Testament as a place of
prosperity and abundant rain, which indicates the absence of poverty and
famines.

The mention of plowshares and pruning hooks in Micah 4:3 indicates the
activity of farming during the 1,000 years, while the mention of vines and fig
trees in Micah 4:4 indicates that no one will be in want; everyone will be
well-fed.
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Why do you think death will continue to exist?
1Co_15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.​
2Co_5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.​
Rev_21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.​
I'm fairly certain wings in heaven wouldn't necessitate the death of chickens. Pass the celery.
 

Blade

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#86
Adam and Eve?
 

tourist

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the uncertainty principle reveals that the universe has a 'built-in' limit beneath which it is impossible for those existing within it to perceive or manipulate. nothing below Planck-length can be observed in position & velocity simultaneously - and there are also many analogous uncertainty relations in other fields besides momentum stemming from the same basic principles of quanta. this means that the only entity capable of translating without transcription error is the One who sees what is unseen -- and He must be uncreated, outside of creation, unconstrained by it. He resurrects. no one else can.

in fact by the Copenhagen interpretation of 'the observer effect', the material universe does not exist until observed - so that because it simultaneously has a 'least-observable-scale' there must be One who observes what cannot be observed by the universe itself, else there is no universe. the fundamental physics of creation implies & requires an uncreated Creator.

Nothing is hidden from Him, all things are by Him and through Him, and He holds all things together. this is physics. His invisible qualities are clearly seen by that which has been made ;)
My understanding, based on your post is that without the consciousness of the Creator overseeing the creation it would not exist. The very act of the Creator observing it effects it in subtle and not so subtle ways. In other words, without God absolutely nothing would exist. Fascinating, thank you for the lesson in quantum mechanics.

On a side note, in the finale of the Quantum Leap God appears to Sam and explains his purpose in leaping, that even though his actions have only affected a few, those few did actions that affected others in a positive way. He asked Sam want he wanted and Sam said that he wanted to go home. God told him that he could go home whenever he wanted to. Turns out, that Sam never did go home but kept leaping into different situations. He did this willingly because God explained his purpose in life in terms that he could understand.
 

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Most people abuse (ie "wrest") that verse from its contextual meaning.

Scripture gives plenty about the food and things we shall eat in the 'here after'.
How can you wrest a scripture verse that stands alone without the need to substantiate it with other verses? Another stand-alone verse is "God is love". That one small verse sets the tone for the entire bible. Cant wrest that verse either. Are you really saying that 'most people' wrest the verse in question because they don't necessarily agree with you? If so, then it is really you who are wresting that verse to fit your narrative.
 
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How can you wrest a scripture verse that stands alone without the need to substantiate it with other verses? Another stand-alone verse is "God is love". That one small verse sets the tone for the entire bible. Cant wrest that verse either. Are you really saying that 'most people' wrest the verse in question because they don't necessarily agree with you? If so, then it is really you who are wresting that verse to fit your narrative.
My guess is that he is wanting to promote the eating of herbs in this life as some sort of Closer to God path as the false teachers Paul warned us about would teach. The video he suggested is a strange teaching. The invitation at the end of the mans sermon is asking for decisions to change ones diet people respond and he is excited like they decided to follow Jesus. Red Alert!:devilish: It might be SDA.
 

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My guess is that he is wanting to promote the eating of herbs in this life as some sort of Closer to God path as the false teachers Paul warned us about would teach. The video he suggested is a strange teaching. The invitation at the end is to change ones diet. Red Alert!:devilish:
I will take your word for it and not waste my time on the video. How in the world can eating herbs bring one closer to God? Total nonsense. Thanks for the heads-up.
 

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It would seem the wage of sin is death . If you do not work you will no eat if you do not eat you will die . It will not be established in the new order. Food for the belly, belly for food both will perish. No one will starve to death.
Here you go again showing you serious lack of knowledge about scripture. We will have a Glorified body in heaven. We will no longer have a body of Flesh after we are raised from the grave. Therefore we will no longer need food for our belly to give us energy. We will
I think you would argue with a fence post just to hear yourself talk.
 

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We will have a Glorified body in heaven. We will no longer have a body of
Flesh after we are raised from the grave. Therefore we will no longer need
food for our belly to give us energy.

Well; I don't know about Heaven, and I don't know about needing food for
energy, but I do know for sure that Jesus and his followers will be eating and
drinking common foods and beverages in the kingdom of God.

Matt 26:29 . . I tell you: I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now
on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom.

Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you
before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in
the kingdom of God.

Luke 22:28-29 . . However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in
my trials; and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a
covenant with me, for a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in
my kingdom
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Webers.Home

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We will no longer have a body of Flesh after we are raised from the grave.

Watch for the deliberate misquote in the passage below.

1Cor 15:42-44 . . So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in
corruption, it is raised up in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised
up in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised up in power. It is sown a
physical body, it is raised up a spirit body. If there is a physical body, there
is also a spirit body.

Catch the misquote? Well; there is no mention of a spirit body in that
passage. The actual word is "spiritual".

The Greek word translated "spiritual" is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily
refer to the characteristics of thin air. Below is a list of spiritual things that
bear absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the bodily chemistry of an
angel or a demon.

Spiritual gifts (Rom 1:11)
Spiritual law (Rom 7:14)
Spiritual things (Rom 15:27)
Spiritual people (1Cor 2:15)
Spiritual nourishment (1Cor 10:3)
Spiritual water (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual rock (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual counselors (Gal 6:1)
Spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3)
Spiritual music (Eph 5:19)
Spiritual understanding (Col 1:9)
Spiritual housing (1Pet 2:5)
Spiritual sacrifices (1Pet 2:5)

It's apparently been decided, and chipped in stone, by a number of
theologians that the spiritual body has to be composed of spirit material
because of the passage below.

1Cor 15:50 . . This I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
God’s kingdom,

The Greek word translated "inherit" is kleronomeo (klay-ron-om-eh'-o)
which speaks of heirs; roughly defined by Webster's as someone who is
entitled to receive something from an ancestor.

In a nutshell, the kingdom of God is not the kind of estate that natural
parents can share with their natural posterity by means of either a trust fund
or a will. People can only inherit the kingdom of God from God; and not just
from God as a supreme being, but from God as a parent, i.e. a Father.

So then; in order to be entitled to an inheritance from God, people must first
qualify as His legal kin; which of course is possible only via the spirit birth
that Jesus spoke of in John 3:3-12.

One of the things known about the spiritual body, in addition to its
immortality, is that it's visible to the naked eye.

Acts 1:11 . . Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This
Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the
same way as you have watched him go into heaven.

Rev 1:7 . . Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see
him, even those who pierced him
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WithinReason

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Genesis 9:3 happens to also be scripture.
Yes it is. It is very clear in what it states in its context:

Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.​
Gen 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.​
Gen 9:5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.​

The words "even as" refer back to Genesis 1-2, in which God made distinction between that which was good for food and that which was not good for food. God never gave mankind thorns and thistles to eat either. There are poisonous plants that are not good for food.

In context, God stated in vs 5, that for every clean animal eaten (minus blood, minus fat, minus diseased, minus strangled, minus dieth of itself, etc), that God was going to shorten the lifespan of man. God allowed the temporary eating of the clean animals so that sinners would not live such prolonged lives. Take careful notice that the lifespan of mankind after Noah immediately dropped from 900 to 400's to 200's to 100's to 70-80, within a few generations.

God, during the time of the Exodus was already bringing mankind back to a better diet. See the manna and the spring water from the rock. They had run out of flesh and craved it. Watch the sermon I shared earlier.

Hosea foretold the time in which all animals (beasts, birds and bait (fish)) would become diseased, sick unto death, because of the increase of the sin of mankind, and that none of it would be safe for consumption. God is leading us back to the diet of the Garden in Eden, the diet of Heaven. All who know and do not take heed will perish by the coming plagues, even as those in the wilderness of old, died by the plague that broke out upon them. 1 Corinthians 10; Psalms 78; Numbers 11.

Noah was merely pointing to Christ Jesus. The real Lamb of God, the real sacrifice. God does not desire dead flesh sacrifices. God desires living sacrifice.

Jesus when resurrected indeed ate fish. He was still on earth, the courtyard, and not yet entered into the work in Heaven, where there is no death at that time. Why do you remain in the courtyard theology, when Jesus has long since moved on into the Holy and Most Holy Place theology? Why do you stay in the past example, and not the present example? The Light has moved on from you, and unless you keep up, you will remain in darkness.
 

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How can you wrest a scripture verse that stands alone without the need to substantiate it with other verses? Another stand-alone verse is "God is love". That one small verse sets the tone for the entire bible. Cant wrest that verse either. Are you really saying that 'most people' wrest the verse in question because they don't necessarily agree with you? If so, then it is really you who are wresting that verse to fit your narrative.
Broad way, compared to narrow path. Most of the Sanhedrin rejected Jesus. Only two named did not, and even those were in secret most of the time. "Majority" is not evidence of truth.
 

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I will take your word for it and not waste my time on the video. How in the world can eating herbs bring one closer to God? Total nonsense. Thanks for the heads-up.
You let others do your thinking and viewing for you? Interesting approach to life. Do you do the same for your Bible reading also?
 

WithinReason

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I'm fairly certain wings in heaven wouldn't necessitate the death of chickens. Pass the celery.
Do you suppose tearing off the chickens legs, along with your wings would not cause the death of a chicken? What if we just carve off a chicken breast? surely the chicken could still live, even though not a complete and happy existence?, What of pain then? suffering?, sorrow? (Rev. 21:4; Isa. 11:9, 65:25) of not merely animal, but also of the more intelligent creatures that view such a barbarous act, and that repeated to satisfy your carnal (flesh) desire?
 

WithinReason

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What will we eat when we exist in a place where there is no hunger ?
The text:

Rev 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.​
Where does the verse say that eating and drinking will cease? It says "hunger" and "thirst", which are extremes of need, as in being without food (starvation) and without water (dehydration). God is stating by the verse, in context, that He will provide all their dietary requirements, in the eating of the Tree of Life and from the water of the river of life, and of the gardens, etc.

Do you have access to the valuable (though not perfect) TSK?

hunger: Psa_42:2, Psa_63:1, Psa_143:6; Isa_41:17, Isa_49:10, Isa_65:13; Mat_5:6; Luk_1:53, Luk_6:21; Joh_4:14​
If we do not continually partake of the Tree of Life (as in Genesis) we would indeed die. We, who are redeemed, never obtain inherent immortality (which God alone has; 1 Timothy 6:16), but always conditional immortality. We will always have to receive sustenance from God.

Eternal Life is always found in Christ Jesus (John 5:39), and He eats food, even still. He is eternally a glorified man, having forever taken upon Himself the flesh of mankind. He truly gave sacrifice. He is eternally Immanuel, God with us, for unto "us" a Son was "given" (permanently).

The Angels (angelic hosts) eat food:

Psa_78:25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat [KJB 'food'] to the full.​