Jesus did not say follow preachers, He said follow Me.

So let me see, if I dismiss one of Paul's commandments, God kills me.
If that is not true then what's the point.

If we don't believe the Gospels, then we can't believe anything at all...It is ludicrous to
compare Paul to the Son of god. I love Paul, he is a great help to my Christian faith
but his letters are not law and they never will be, it's absurd that Jesus would abolish
the old covenant as written in Hebrews and replace it with a new list of laws when
He died on the cross so people could be free and now the third millennium Pharisees want to
bring back laws. Jesus called them fools and hypocrites then and He would call them that now.
As I say I follow Paul in his help for my beginning in Christianity. But it is not a sin for me to
disagree with Paul.

Jesus called them fools and hypocrites

But it is not a sin for me to
disagree with Paul.

i am not completely clear on what he's saying so i'm asking questions

i don't think the passage means the epistles are "optional" -- both Saul and Apollos spoke of Christ, and IMO, if you love Christ, you want to read and keep everything in scripture about Him. that's what makes scripture, "scripture" -- the fact that it is about Him. that's what He says in John 5:39 ((bonus points! i cited something from the gospels instead of any other part of scripture!)) -- He says these are they which testify of Him, and says we're supposed to search them for Him.
what Paul writes is about, is Christ. what Matthew writes about, is Christ. what John writes about. what Moses writes about. what the prophets write about, what Luke writes about, what Solomon & David write about, is Christ.

IMO the passage you put for us to remember, says Apollos and and Paul are servants of Christ, assigned by Him to be -- and what their assignment is, is to teach us about Christ. we have writings from Paul; God determined that we should. so what sense is it to set that aside like it's different from what the same LORD assigned to Mark to write?


and btw -- we **might** have something from Apollos. i know that the majority opinion is that Hebrews was written by Paul, but it's possible it was Apollos - one thing that's pointed out as evidence that it's possibly Paul's work is the depth of knowledge about the Law, which is something Paul also displays in his letters. but of Apollos it's said in Acts 18:24 that he was 'mighty in the scriptures' and that he was arguing in the synagogues and no one could oppose him. so he also understood the Messiah in the OT, and it was two disciples converted through Paul who taught him about the revelation of Christ and the gift of the Spirit, so if there are similarities in Hebrews with the qualities of Paul's discourses, that could be explained by the gospel having been explained more accurately to Apollos through Paul, via Priscilla & Aquila. it's said in the same part of Acts that Apollos greatly helped those who had believed through grace -- so he also is indicated by the things in Hebrews, the explanation of the grace of God through the Son, in the same way Paul is.

i'd like for Hebrews to be Apollos' writing. i think he is such an interesting character in the Bible; i love him. the book doesn't tell us who it was that wrote it down; it may not be, and most people, people who are a lot more knowledgeable on the subjects than me, think it wasn't. but it may be. there's a 'maybe'

If we don't believe the Gospels, then we can't believe anything at all...It is ludicrous to
compare Paul to the Son of god. I love Paul, he is a great help to my Christian faith
but his letters are not law and they never will be, it's absurd that Jesus would abolish
the old covenant as written in Hebrews and replace it with a new list of laws when
He died on the cross so people could be free and now the third millennium Pharisees want to
bring back laws. Jesus called them fools and hypocrites then and He would call them that now.
As I say I follow Paul in his help for my beginning in Christianity. But it is not a sin for me to
disagree with Paul.

it is a sin for you to disagree with what Paul wrote. It is downright devilish!

I believe he is talking about how we put to much emphasis in Pauls writings and in preachers

When we are not "under Law" as Christians, the MEANING is: we are not under the PENALTY for breaking it. Such verses as "the law KILLETH, but the Spirit gives life, is referring to the PENALTY which is death. Romans 7: 12, tells us: "Wherefore the Law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good". Regarding any thought that the Law itself is abolished, (except in the conversion of the sinner) Romans 3:31, says: "Do we then make void the Law through faith? God forbid, yea we ESTABLISH the Law". Or Romans 10:4. "For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness." Jesus summed up All the Law and commandments, when he said Love is the fulfilling of the Law. Herein is where most people think that "love" is how we "feel" towards one another. But, love has two parts to it's fulfillment to be complete: the RIGHT feelings, (compassion, tenderness etc.) coupled with the RIGHT actions, or DOINGS. In a word, to "love, is to FEEL and DO, RIGHTLY. For example, Jesus said to the religious rulers of his day, that they APPEARED righteous on the outside, but within, we full of hypocrisy and dead means bones.

As I read your other comments, I'm left wondering if your just kicking over.......

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your playing word games to dismiss the comments of others while trying to appear insightful yourself... IMO

Paul preached the Gospel of Christ!

Learn the meaning of this: 1 Corinthians, Chapter 7 vs. 12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

I'm not into word games, so enjoy yoursellf

I like how you described it as the tides of the ocean . of coruse if I am not mistaken the Torah was only described as the old testament in which they were under the law but in the new testament they fulfill and as you put it are in sync with it not under it.

No. He is actually REJECTING Paul's epistles as Scripture. There are many out there accusing Paul of being a false apostle. That comes from Satan.

I saw him say they are not law but to say they are not scripture? where does he say or imply this?

Here is what was said in the OP: So many are told that Paul's writings are laws but they are not laws.... Every time verses get peppered on to the screen, is like those verse are the authority. Well they are not...

But the apostle Peter said that all of Paul's epistles have the authority of Scripture. And Paul does not teach "laws", although he does lay down the law for Christians. And some people don't like that.

You third millennium Pharisees are the the ones with the knives out with all your psycho babble.
The old Pharisees created laws upon laws upon laws....now the new ones want to build a new
set of laws that no one can keep. I stand by all I have posted to date. the new lawmakers
are living in the flesh and they have no idea what the Spirit is. Living in the Spirit does not contain
words because when you are in the heart of God and He is in yours, there are no words necessary
because we have a intimate relationship with our Divine Father.

Love Fulfills the Law
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
So if love is the fulfilment of the law; why the contradiction of making more.

I saw him say they are not law but to say they are not scripture? where does he say or imply this?

If we don't believe the Gospels, then we can't believe anything at all...It is ludicrous to
compare Paul to the Son of god. I love Paul, he is a great help to my Christian faith
but his letters are not law and they never will be, it's absurd that Jesus would abolish
the old covenant as written in Hebrews and replace it with a new list of laws when
He died on the cross so people could be free and now the third millennium Pharisees want to
bring back laws. Jesus called them fools and hypocrites then and He would call them that now.
As I say I follow Paul in his help for my beginning in Christianity. But it is not a sin for me to
disagree with Paul.